Cuse gets hammered
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From Syracuse Univ:
Vacation of 24 men's basketball wins (15 in 2004-05 and 9 in 2011-12);
So it appears that Boeheim loses 24 off his total. The other years pertain to football indiscretions.
This post was edited on 3/6 12:54 PM by KMKAT
Boeheim loses wins
The coach is suspended 9 games.
They are banned (even if self-imposed) from the tourney this year.
Have to pay back a ton of money.
Return NCAA money from the tournament.
Forfiet well over a hundred wins.
The loss of 12 scholarships over 4 wins.
What is your definition of "hammered" then.
I think that's when the investigation started. I'm sure Syracuse was on there best behavior then.
This is really worse for Carolina. Until the punishments come down, they will have fair to worse recruiting for years.
They should be scared,that this may take years before the decision. I feel the best thing is admit wrong doing now.
The uncertainty will not be welcomed by the majority of UNC fans in my opinion.
They should be scared,that this may take years before the decision. I feel the best thing is admit wrong doing now.
The uncertainty will not be welcomed by the majority of UNC fans in my opinion.
23s24 seconds ago
The lesson: 10 years of violations on your watch, you miss 9 games. But lie to the NCAA over 1 incident (Tressel, Pearl) and you're done.
The lesson: 10 years of violations on your watch, you miss 9 games. But lie to the NCAA over 1 incident (Tressel, Pearl) and you're done.
Does Boeheim have too forfeit wins too? If so how many will he have now?
He should forfeit all the wins right?
He should forfeit all the wins right?
10 year investigation.... we just have to be patient with unc. But in their case most of the legwork has already been done. Give it a couple years and we'll be reading this same story again.
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Re: Does Boeheim have too forfeit wins too? If so how many will he have now?
That's some BS if that's all he is losing.
Such a weak penalty by the NCAA for a man who has now been caught twice in his career for cheating.
CBS Sports now reporting:
The school and Boeheim will also be forced to vacate its victories "in
which ineligible men's basketball students played in 2004-05, 2005-06,
2006-07, 2010-11 and 2011-12." Boeheim won 135 games in those five
seasons; 106 of the wins will be taken out of the record books. His 2012-13 team, which reached the Final Four, was not found in violation of NCAA rules.
The school and Boeheim will also be forced to vacate its victories "in
which ineligible men's basketball students played in 2004-05, 2005-06,
2006-07, 2010-11 and 2011-12." Boeheim won 135 games in those five
seasons; 106 of the wins will be taken out of the record books. His 2012-13 team, which reached the Final Four, was not found in violation of NCAA rules.
Complete meltdown on Cuse rivals board...
https://syracuse.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=937&fid=1369&style=2
https://syracuse.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=937&fid=1369&style=2
Well, the statement from Syracuse says 24 games will be taken away from Boeheim.Originally posted by WACB:
How convenient for them that the 2003 and 2013 seasons were not in violation.
Also, the following monies:
Report says Syracuse must return to NCAA all revenue obtained in 2011,
2012, and 2013 NCAA tournaments. Syracuse will also be fined $500 per
game for each game in which any ineligible player participated.
Why shouldn't Boeheim get hit with a money penalty as well? I am sure he has some major incentives that he didn't give back.
From the NCAA report regarding Boeheim's suspension:
The provisions of this suspension require that the head men's basketball coach not be present in the arena where the games are played and shall not have any contact or communication with members of the men's basketball coaching staff and men's basketball student-athletes during the suspension period. The prohibition includes all coaching activities for the period of time which begins at 12:01 a.m. the day of the first conference game and ends at 11:59 p.m. on the day of the game that constitutes the halfway point of the conference season. During that period, the head men's basketball coach may not participate in any activities including, but not limited to, team travel, practice, video study and team meetings. The results of those contests from which the head men's basketball coach is suspended shall not count in the head men's basketball coach's career coaching record.
Link to NCAA full report
The provisions of this suspension require that the head men's basketball coach not be present in the arena where the games are played and shall not have any contact or communication with members of the men's basketball coaching staff and men's basketball student-athletes during the suspension period. The prohibition includes all coaching activities for the period of time which begins at 12:01 a.m. the day of the first conference game and ends at 11:59 p.m. on the day of the game that constitutes the halfway point of the conference season. During that period, the head men's basketball coach may not participate in any activities including, but not limited to, team travel, practice, video study and team meetings. The results of those contests from which the head men's basketball coach is suspended shall not count in the head men's basketball coach's career coaching record.
Link to NCAA full report
anyone who doesn't think Cuse is going to blow starting in 2016-2017 due to scholly problems doesn't get how big this is becuase , yes you can be a great team with 10 schollys BUT you need all this to go right
- can't have players transfer
- can't have players get in trouble and get kicked off
- can't miss on any recruits . If you sign them they better be damn good .
- can't have any tragedies
- Have to have players STILL want to go there despite maybe not winning much
and there's more but that's just off the top of my head .
So yeah Cuse fans be prepared to Suck.
- can't have players transfer
- can't have players get in trouble and get kicked off
- can't miss on any recruits . If you sign them they better be damn good .
- can't have any tragedies
- Have to have players STILL want to go there despite maybe not winning much
and there's more but that's just off the top of my head .
So yeah Cuse fans be prepared to Suck.
41m41 minutes ago
Jim Boeheim drops to sixth in all-time wins. The NCAA stripped Syracuse of 108 victories. Boeheim was at 966, now has 858.
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Jim Boeheim drops to sixth in all-time wins. The NCAA stripped Syracuse of 108 victories. Boeheim was at 966, now has 858.
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Re: No vacated 03 Championship for The Cuse
Yes. Same as the UNC**** scenario, if banner(s) don't come down, they did not get "hammered" to any degree.
Re: No vacated 03 Championship for The Cuse
It seems dumb to vacate a title from 12 years ago. But, then I read that some official in New Mexico wants to make it official that Billy the Kid is truly dead with a death certificate issued. So, I guess there is no time limit on stupid stuff.
It seems dumb to vacate a title from 12 years ago. But, then I read that some official in New Mexico wants to make it official that Billy the Kid is truly dead with a death certificate issued. So, I guess there is no time limit on stupid stuff.
Thanks. I'd call that a heavy hammer except the 9 game suspension. They barred Pearl for years for much less.The total number of wins vacated may not be that significant, but the doing so is. If the NCAA does similar to UNC they could lose entire season's not to mention titles. With a decision on that likely coming in a few months it's not a good sign for our UNC friends.
Stewart Mandel þ@slmandel 23m23 minutes ago
Crazy detail in the Syracuse report. Director of basketball ops and others had players' passwords, would email their professors as them.
Crazy detail in the Syracuse report. Director of basketball ops and others had players' passwords, would email their professors as them.
Very personal to Boehiem. He was a couple seasons from hitting 1000, now there's almost no way he can possibly get there.