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Corey90

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Just so were on the same page Dr. Your comparing
Stafford to Cutler. So will say it now. Yes Detroit has
a better defense yes as for going anywhere in the
Playoffs."no". They will be lucky to get by the first round.
Stafford is a lot like Cutler but has a better attitude
and he is a better leader.

I will say it again wherever Cutler lands the team will not
win consistently. Winning a playoff is not even a consideration.
You heard from me a gain will see how it plays out.
 

GMAN81

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Corey:

Yes I am comparing Cutler to Stafford. What I am also doing is showing you for the 1 millionth time what a difference a good defense makes. Cutler and Stafford's stats are pretty close but one team is 11-4 and the other is 5-10. The only difference between the two is the Detroit defense. Give Cutler that defense and you have at least an 11-4 record here. And Detroit doesn't have much of a running game either. The Bears have actually outscored Detroit. Detroit has already beaten Green Bay once. Now how did that happen? They gave GB 7 points in that game.

The Lions have given up 30+ points in one game, everything else is under 25. Like it or not Corey, that is how you win games, even with their offense.

You want another weak offense? Arizona. They have only scored 293 points but they are also 11-4 and can very well end up 12-4. Why? Because they also play good defense and have given up 279 points or 18.6 a game.

The Lions can secure home field throughout the playoffs still. It is definitely a stretch however. But if they lose they will very likely have a very tough 1st round game on the road.

I am not saying a good offense isn't impoortant. But there is no question a good defense will keep you in far more games than a good offense will. Denver found that out in the last Super Bowl and if they have to go to New England this year in the playoffs they will find it out again.

The bottom line is this. The biggest problem the Bears have is the defense. NO QB can win here with that defense. NONE.
 

GMAN81

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Originally posted by corey90:
Dr.
I agree and have always agreed the Bears ownership is
terrible. This is not even in question. The problem with
complaining about the ownership is it does not matter
they are not going anywhere.
You are answering some of your own questions and making my point here.

This is what the real problem is. To me, you are wasting time blaming only the players and leaving ownership out of it. They are the ones who hire these guys. That is who you really should be ripping. In the end it's what I do.
You can ***** about Cutler all you want. The fact is, he will be gone before you know it and in a couple of years you will be ripping the next QB instead of the owners. I am sure you were also a Grossman hater as well, Jim Miller, Erik Kramer, etc.

But it comes down to ownership. I have said over and over the organization isn't committed to winning. Until they are, this isn't going to change. Since the 80s window closed on this team they haven't been anywhere near what they were for about five or six years. That is almost 30 years ago now.

Ever since Ditka left all they have done is hire these milquetoast coaches and GMs. If you don't know the definition of that word look it up because it describes exactly what these guys have been. Now, they have a chance to hire a coach with more than just a pulse in Jim Harbaugh. You think they will? F**k no! They will continue to hire these clowns. Sure, they may have a decent season or two but no championships for years. We may never live to see another. Look at the makeup of the last championship team and look at them now and ever since those guys left. Even their appearance in the 2007 Super Bowl was more of an accident than anything else.

I have come here several times and asked why they don't hire a head coach with some NFL head coaching experience. Why? They are too damned cheap. This whole thing with Trestman has completely blown up in their face. When they announced him every Bears fan I knew said WHO? Just like some of the others. I think he is the 21st highest paid coach. Surprise, surprise. You throw Ditka out of the picture and the only other coach to have a winning record above .500 is Lovie Smith since Halas himself stopped coaching the team after the 1967 season.

During Ditka's reign, 11 years, the Bears played in 12 post season games going 6-6. Since he left, 22 seasons have passed. The Bears have played in a paltry 9 post season games going 4-5. Wanny was here nine long seasons and took the Bears to only one post season appearance. Jauron was here five more years and the Bears played in ONE post season game and of course lost. Lovie was here nine seasons and the Bears played in six post season games. Half of those came in one season.

Don't look for this situation to get much better with these idiots at the wheel. Players come and go. Again, we'll be right back where we are in just a matter of a couple of seasons and you can blame that future QB.
This post was edited on 12/24 2:34 PM by Dr. Mirakle
 

Corey90

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Dr.
I agree with just about all you said except Cutler.
I stand by what I said before, that we can ***** about the ownership.
In my mind It's a waste of energy. The owners are not going to sell the
team nor will they change . I agree with you It was dumb luck they made the
SB in 2007. I may ***** about a QB after Cutler. It is likely the ownership
will again make poor decisions but I can't root for a guy like Cutler
who quite frankly does not act like he cares. He is a poor leader
and even worse a poor teammate. Cutler has done nothing to make
believe he is going to win or change. His track record of success in the
league is not someone you would want to bet on, in fact the safer bet is against
him regardless what team he plays for.

We will have to agree to disagree when it comes to Cutler.