Dak and the Heisman.

[SandmanRebel]

First off, where he is in the discussion is absolutely deserved. He has performed, I believe, above even State fans' greatest expectations so far. But what he has been responsible for so far in leading State to 3 major upsets and a #1 overall ranking puts him squarely as the man to beat.

My Question is this:

With how the media plays favorites for the historical powers as well as their propensity to pick their own appointed darlings, can Dak survive a set back? I expect him to play well the rest of the season and he looks, to me, to be one of if not the most dynamic player in the country, someone that requires constant attention. But suppose Alabama or Ole Miss are able to beat State with Dak turning the ball over multiple times, do you think he can survive a game like that to still win the Heisman?

I'm not asking if he should win it, because if he continues to play as he has he should, no matter your W-L record. But rather, would the voters still award it to the most dynamic player, not just the top player on the top team?

 

[msstate7]

Didn't get past "3 major upsets"...

We were around 7 pt (?) underdog to lsu, favored over aTm, and 2.5 underdog to auburn

 

[dawgdoug1962]

Sandman, without a doubt this year the Heisman voters are looking for someone with the on-the-field results plus high character traits which will off-set the last two ne'er-do-wells who won it. Dak has the character and the personal life story that will cause folks to forget "Johnny Dollars" and Jameis "Lobsterman"...

 

[Chesusdog]

I think up to two regular season losses, without a giant meltdown and he'll stay in contention if not the lead. Statistically he's keeping pace with previous Heisman winners from the SEC and actually has more TDs through 6 games than them. He's already a media darling because of his on field skills, touching back story and his evident charisma.

Granted I was pretty drunk last night, but I'm pretty sure I saw that Neal McCready said last night that Bo Wallace was just as much, if not more, of a Heisman contender than Dak. Do any of you fellas actually believe that **** or is it the kind of thing you say even though you know it isn't true?

 

[WrapItDog]

JFF had 2 losses his Heisman winning year and I wouldn't call A&M a historical power.

 

[SandmanRebel]

I think McCready said that Dak was a for sure Heisman contender, but that due to performance so far and team record, Wallace also should be. Or at least thats what he meant. I think Bo has done enough to be in the discussion, but not a Top 5 guy. He really has had one bad half this year, and the rest has been really, really good.

 

[DerHntr]

I am hoping that the MVP of the #1 team doesn't happen again this year unless it is State and Dak.

I think Dak weathers a loss or a bad night and at least gets top three because by all accounts he is nothing like JFF and that idiot at FSU.

 

[o_1984Dawg]

To be frank, Dak is simply much more responsible for his team being 6-0 than Bo is. Our offense has been a bigger part of our success than yours and Dak is a bigger part of the offense.

 

[00Dawg]

No, sorry. He just doesn't have the combined stats to be in the conversation. Only 89 yards and 2 rushing TDs says you have to look at passing.
Kenny Hill's no longer in the conversation despite 800 more yards passing, 8 more TDs, and only 1 more interception, and it's hard to argue for a one-dimensional QB who isn't even the best passer in his division.
Keep winning, avoid more halves like the first ones against Boise and to a lesser extent, Bama, and maybe he enters the conversation.

 

[Chesusdog]

Like I said, I was pretty blitzed after a few hours of drinking and jumping around my living room. I think Bo has played better the last couple games. Not great, but better than his normal turnover prone self. I don't see him as a Heisman candidate though. Nothing about his game or the UM offense stands out above the middle of the pack.

 

[MedDawg]

He needs consistent 250pass/100rush in the big games and

have some higher stats in the easier games. If not high stats because he doesn't play much past halftime in the easier games, he needs efficient numbers, like 70% passing and 3-4 TD's. He doesn't need 400+ yard passing games, and he has been rated as a better Heisman contender than several QB's who are passing for 400 yards.

He doesn't need any more games with 2-3 interceptions. He could be ok there, as Auburn's DB's made some good plays to keep Dak's mistakes from being mere incompletions. I thought the interceptions would hurt his hype but the announcers still talked about Dak having a great game.


In other words, he doesn't need huge games, he can just keep being regular Dak and have a good chance to win it.

 

[muddawgs]

Dak seems to have 2 or 3 bad decisions a game.

First off, where he is in the discussion is absolutely deserved. He has performed, I believe, above even State fans' greatest expectations so far. But what he has been responsible for so far in leading State to 3 major upsets and a #1 overall ranking puts him squarely as the man to beat.

My Question is this:

With how the media plays favorites for the historical powers as well as their propensity to pick their own appointed darlings, can Dak survive a set back? I expect him to play well the rest of the season and he looks, to me, to be one of if not the most dynamic player in the country, someone that requires constant attention. But suppose Alabama or Ole Miss are able to beat State with Dak turning the ball over multiple times, do you think he can survive a game like that to still win the Heisman?

I'm not asking if he should win it, because if he continues to play as he has he should, no matter your W-L record. But rather, would the voters still award it to the most dynamic player, not just the top player on the top team?

Auburn was the first team to capitalize on them. He cleans those up, I think he will win the heisman. There was one play in particular against auburn that if Dak makes the right decision he cements himself as the leading heisman candidate. The interception in the end zone to Wilson. There was a hole as big as Texas on the left side and if Dak pulls the ball down and runs with it, it's an easy TD. Instead he threw it up and it turned into an interception. Wilson was covered up pretty well so no need to force it on that play.