Damn....

[msudogsrule01]

I am a Stansbury supporter, mainly because I know him and his family somewhat personally and they have always been gracious to me. However, this hurts me to read:

RPI rankings:
Ole Miss - 59;
Southern
Miss - 74;
Jackson State - 124;
MVSU - 230;
Mississippi State - 235;
Alcorn St. - 299

Wow. I doubt we end up this low to finish the season, but if we do, we need to, at minimum, change out our assistant coaching staff. I am not ready to call for an end to Stansbury's tenure, but I am in pain, like so may of us Bulldog faithful are.

 

[maroonmania]

may be that his hand is forced in the area of changing out and hopefully upgrading some of his assistant staff. He's got 3 assistants and 2 of those are really almost on the level of GAs as they had never coached Div 1 ball until Stans gave them a job. And the other is probably much more adept at recruiting than coaching.

 

[sleepy dawg]

How can you be "not ready to call for an end to Stansbury's tenure"???

You really think all we need is a new assistant coach?

 

[patdog]

there doesn't need to be a next year for him. It's time to end it this year. The program has been slowly falling apart the past 4 years and it's completely fallen apart this year. We don't need to make the same mistake with Stansbury that wemade with Jackie Sherrill.

 

[JimC1097]

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[msudogsrule01]

The reason I can't get behind a tenure change is the fact that, like I said, I actually know him and his family. I am personally too close to them to advocate something like that. However, I can empathize with those who have the vitrol to support his leaving the program.

 

[Shmuley]

Simply unable to admit that he's not going to stop beating you. He's not going to stop abusing you. After 13 years, why should you expect him to stop doing what he always does?

 

[Coach34]

doesnt mean he has to allow the guy to input anything from a strategy point. You think after 13 years he is going to let someone else do that?

Control freaks dont change their spots

 

[msudogsrule01]

This is the only season I have truly doubted Stansbury. When I was still in Starkville and knew them my best, we were in the midst of one of the great runs in MSU history. He had been very successful, especially by our standards, and it was easily the most stable program on campus. You knew we were getting our 20+ wins and some postseason play.

I have known and grown fond of Rick, his family and his coaches (well, some of them). While I respect and understand this board's feeling to remove him, I cannot support a move to fire a coach who has averaged more than 22 wins a year for the last 9 years (prior to this season), been to the postseason (without great success once there, I recognize) eight of those nine years, the NCAA Tournament six of those nine seasons and won a regular season and two conference tournament championships. I do think things need to change, and that the assistant coach turnover might be what that needs to be, but fire the guy? Come on. Be serious. Be mad about this year's team. Be mad about certain decisions. But to fire a guy for one lousy season in the midst of a fine career. That is just bad business.

 

[maroonmania]

we did actually look better coached that year.

 

[JohnDawg]

I could care less how good of a family man he is. He's not doing his job that we pay him 1.2 million dollars a year to do.I maybe watched 15 seconds of thatshitastic team play on Saturday. I don't plan on watching anymore this season.</p>

 

[msudogsrule01]

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[Coach34]

This is the only season I have truly doubted Stansbury. When I was still in Starkville and knew them my best, we were in the midst of one of the great runs in MSU history. He had been very successful, especially by our standards, and it was easily the most stable program on campus. You knew we were getting our 20+ wins and some postseason play.

I have known and grown fond of Rick, his family and his coaches (well, some of them). While I respect and understand this board's feeling to remove him, I cannot support a move to fire a coach who has averaged more than 22 wins a year for the last 9 years (prior to this season), been to the postseason (without great success once there, I recognize) eight of those nine years, the NCAA Tournament six of those nine seasons and won a regular season and two conference tournament championships. I do think things need to change, and that the assistant coach turnover might be what that needs to be, but fire the guy? Come on. Be serious. Be mad about this year's team. Be mad about certain decisions. But to fire a guy for one lousy season in the midst of a fine career. That is just bad business.

If you are going to go back 9 years, why not include all 12?

how many other BCS programs averaging 22 wins keep getting sent to the NIT like we do?

on average, only 20 of 69 BCS teams dont at least make postseason every year- so for you to say its a bad season, we have to be one of the 20 worst BCS teams in college basketball?
49 of 69 BCS teams make the postseason- 34 of which make the NCAA Tourney. Being team 35-49 and being in the NIT is not really some outstanding accomplishment.

 

[paindonthurt_]

force him to do it. All he has to do is hire someone and then not listen to them. Nothing changes.

 

[Slumdawg]

msudogsrule01[/b]]He had been very successful, especially by our standards, and it was easily the most stable program on campus.

There are few things as timeless as the classic"MooU defeatist attitude"...... Why strive for greatness when we can be appeased so easily.....

 

[msudogsrule01]

You have wanted him gone for as long as I have taken notice of your internet handle. Some on this board want to be able to look at this season in a vacuum and indict him based on one, admittedly, bad year. But to ignore his past accomplishments, whether they met to you high standards or not, is just poor policy. I would expect my athletics director to be cognizant of that and insist — and help if necessary — Stansbury to take the proper corrective actions. If I fired an employee for having a poor year following nine good to great ones, especially without offering help first, then I would be pretty bad at management. Luckily I am not and I can see that. Lets see where the season plays out, and if we can get to 17-18 wins, which I would consider a nice accomplishment all things considered. Don't get me wrong, I want change, but I don't think the head guy is the one who should go at this point. If it happens next year as well, then I might be hard pressed to not agree.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

It completely skirts the issue that you have an incompetent head coach. If the coach were competent and the assistants were not, the coach would not have to be told to fire them. It always seems like when this happens (in any sport) that a firing of a head coach is soon to follow simply because you now have an incompetent coach and new assistants who have no motivation.

 

[Coach34]

when it became obvious nothing was ever going to change and this was all we were going to get. But I did tell everyone in 2003 the man was never going to be good enough to make a Sweet 16. And well....

The Recruiter's tenure:

1999- took over a talented bunch and made the NIT. Not saying they should have been an NCAA lock, but a good coach could have made it happen- solid 1st season though
2000- losing season
2001- NIT

2002-2005- The Recruiter's claim to fame. Getting LR in from the craziest situation in the history of NCAA basketball saved his career. 4 straight NCAA's

2006- played the weakest schedule in BCS school history until this season- went 15-15 rebuilding
2007- NIT
2008- 8 seed in the NCAA's.
2009- won SEC Tourney to get into the NCAA's- was only chance they had to make it
2010- NIT after being ranked to start the season

I'm not seeing "9 good to great seasons"