Would like to see him go as Miss State has continually been a solid foe as our permanent west opponent.
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Dan Mullen Interviews @ Miami
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Would be a good move. Ole Miss is on the upswing and it's too tough there in the West. Miami would be an easier road to a conference championship and playoff. He's a good coach.
WAYYYYYYYY easier to get top level kids to come to Miami as opposed to freaking Starkville.
Not to mention they are all within about 3 hours in every direction of the school.
Totally agree...that game used to be a toss up for UK to win. Since Mullen has been there, it's been a loss and most years they hammer UK pretty soundly. Would be great for Uk to see Mullen move on from MSU.
Then why have they been so mediocre for so long? They had a decent run with Howard, Johnson and Davis, but for most of their history, they've been pretty common.
Mullen is making >$4MM per year. Unless UM is going to $5MM, lateral move at best.
Heck, UK struggled to beat Sylvester Croom, and he was one of the worst coaches in SEC history. If Mullen leaves, it will be a very attractive job for someone. If you look at their roster, in a couple of years they are going to have their most talented roster during the Mullen era.
Not even close. Miami is a better job. A lot easier to recruit. Don't have to get beat up in the SEC west. And it's more of traditional power that would be easier to sell.
It's an easier path to the top. Its not always about the money.
What kind of history does Miss St have? How many conf and NC do they have? Miami is prob the most fertile recruiting ground in the country.
Instead of hoping that Mullen leaves so we can squeak by a win how about we hold our own program to some higher standards and go out and hire a good coach and athletics director. We shouldn't have to hope for a coach to leave a school like Miss State so that they're terrible enough to beat. We should set some standards for ourselves and try to catch up with the top instead of always thinking that the only way we can win is for the top teams to get worse. Where do you think that kind of attitude is going to get this program in the long run? Probably exactly where we're at
^^ This x 100. I understand the sentiment of wanting to see other SEC programs founder and fail, but I would much prefer that we achieve the necessary excellence to beat another team even at their best.
Great points, I could see him going there. He would contend for the ACC title most years.
If he's looking for an easier path, he should push for UGA. There is no weaker P5 division than the SECE.
This is the best post in the thread. UK football fans worry way too much about what happens at other places. Time to look in the mirror.
I wouldn't go to Miami. It's not the job that most think it is. You could win 10 games a yr there and fans would call for your head b/c it's not like it was in the old days. I'd certainly look elsewhere.
It is worth noting that Mullen just had a contract extension through 2018......so, it's not like he is doing this for leverage for an extension.
It is worth noting that Mullen just had a contract extension through 2018......so, it's not like he is doing this for leverage for an extension.
They play their games in a stadium 40 miles from campus in an event city that if they care about sports it is professional. The most overrated job in the country in my opinion
Absolutely! He is 7-0 vs UK. He has done a great job at MSU and will quite likely be hard for them to replace...they have not always been as good as they are now.
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Surprised me too DA, from the standpoint that he seemed to truly have a love affair going there with the fans and liked his job. But I think as some others have said, the daunting task of competing in the SEC west is the biggest factor in him wanting to look around. He's done a great job and the people like him, but losing to Ole Miss and looking up at Bama, LSU, Auburn, A&M, Ole Miss can take the luster off all of that pretty quick.
Disagree. SEC east isn't any easier than the ACC Coastal with UNC, Pitt, Miami, Duke, VA Tech, VA and GA Tech.
This is true. But I'm also of the opinion UK needs to elevate their product instead of hoping everybody on the schedule is failing.
Mullen interviewing with Miami could also be a ploy to squeeze more money out of MSU. It happens all the time.
That was the point I made above. Just this past February he signed an extension that carries him through 2018. This doesn't sound like he's looking for leverage in this case.
Yep Georgia would also be a step up. I don't think the folks at Georgia are focusing on him however.
Since it takes time to develop that program and winning makes everything else easier, it's smarter to hope other schools drop a bit while we build our program. Just simple math. Once we have success then we should have that attitude, but until then it's just tough talk not based in logic or intelligence.
Mrs. Bryant, Mary Harmon, wasn't exactly pleased to find herself in College Station, TX after living in Lexington.
Most underrated job in country IMO. I mean you could fall out of bed an recruit a NC team within in 2 years.
Fans didn't go when they were winning with Schnell, Jimmy, Erickson, Butch Davis, they would fill up for FSU or Oklahoma. So what? You have those kids who love the U, Butch Davis recruited the most talented team of the past 20 years that Coker won a NC team. I mean there were 25-40 players who played in pros.
Facilities have always been bad, this is about getting those kids who grew up tough and ready to put U on map.
The move from new stadium has been worse but all it takes is to get some guys like Mike Irving, Ed Reed, and big alums back.
Give me the recruiting base and the fact that some of these kids want to play at the U. Great job
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Going from Starkville MS to Miami, FL would NEVER bbe considered a lateral move. Just saying.
For anyone who thinks MSU is equivalent to Miami is insane. As long as Saban is at Alabama, the rest of the West is going to struggle to win. Miami may not be able to pay what other prestige programs can, but they have one of the best recruiting beds in the country, great tradition that is still in current prospects time frame, and great weather. Miami May not be the turnkey program it used to be but there are too many factors that insist they will be successful again with a good hire. And they play in the ACC with the only consistent competitor being FSU and Clemson, that's reason enough.
Clemson and FSU are in the other division. MSU isn't going to consistently play for SEC titles like Miami can in the ACC
That is absurd.
From 1983 to 1994 they were arguably the MOST dominant program in cfb. Won 4 national titles, and it really should have been at least 6 (Testaverde's horrific Fiesta Bowl performance against a far inferior PEnn St team, and the most egregious cheating job ever at Notre Dame shortly after that cost them what could have easily been two more titles).
Then they got hit with a death penalty esque probation.
Then from about 1999 through 2004 they were dominant again. They won a fifth title in 2001 with what I think was the greatest cfb team ever. In 2000 they could have easily won it had they not been left out of the title game for FSU, who they had already beaten. In 2002 they were 13 pt favorites over OSU, and again were robbed by a phantom pass interference call after the final horn. Were it not for that call and being unjustly left out of the title game they could have easily won 3 straight titles.
Then about 2005 it all went down the *******. Primarily because of poor coaching hires. They went with Larry Coker when Butch Davis left and he maintained it for a little while, but then lost control of everything. Randy Shannon was a disaster. Then got hit with another probation. And Al Golden was a disaster.
So yeah, I guess Miami has stunk for about 10 years now. Pretty much due to a string of bad to average at best coaches and a probation.
But still, they have 5 titles since 1983. And if they don't get left out of the 2000 game, Terry Porter doesn't make the worst PI call in history in 2002, Testaverde doesn't throw a million INT's in 86, and they don't get blatantly cheated in 88 at Notre Dame ... they could have easily won 9 titles from 1983 to 2003. I mean think about that. Some hose jobs by the powers that be and one complete egg laid is about all that stood between them and winning it 50% of the time for two decades.
So, an hardly a common history for most of their time. They were dominant for about 17 of the last 32 years. On probation for another 5 or so. And average to bad for the other 10.
Dennis Erickson, an average coach, was 63-9 there.
The bottom line is the area is utterly loaded with talent. Any coach that is any good has a shot at a title there because of it. You have ZERO shot at a title at Miss State. If you think MSU is even remotely equivalent of a job you are clueless. If you think that Miami football was just good for a little bit and common the rest of the time you are clueless. And probably young and didn't watch back in the day.
And as for right now, on top of the talent in the area, the path to the playoffs is pretty easy at Miami. You just have to beat FSU and win the Coastal division (which is complete crap), and that ACCCG and you're in it.