I'm not a fan of any coach hinting or making a veiled reference at some form of injustice or activity against the rules. See this is football too much. If you know something and it pisses you off, say it. Don't hint at it. Put it all out there or keep it to yourself. I'm obviously a huge Cael and PSU fan, but I don't like that comment. It's fairly out of character as well so I am curious what he's getting at but we'll never know
Dare I call it……PEAKING!!!!!!
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I don’t have an issue with that analysis. But, the problem is OVERALL the first metric makes the performance BETTER than my threshold. The fact that it is me and you guys are so against me, much of that is exactly what I was trying to do, none of you want to accept it because you want me gone.
The OVERALL fact is the performance was BETTER than my threshold. To be clear threshold is akin to a minimum bar or at least. If I would have used at least instead of threshold can you at least see how the 7 AA performance as a whole is BETTER than what I listed?
Take me out of the equation and tell me honestly that their outcome wasn’t better than what I listed…
No, 7 AAs is better... lol
I personally don't want you gone. I like a lot of what you add to the board. I just want you to be intellectually honest instead of a stubborn troll b/c sometimes, like this thread and this overall topic that's too often what you're being.
Whats crazy is the way he's accomplishing things already. Guys wrestling so well at the tournament, and pulling off some upsets. Sounds pretty familiar. Its almost like its not just getting the top kids, but getting them to an even higher level. Also, sounds pretty familiar. Maybe some actual merit to the whole development/ recruit argument. Jax may have pulled that off no matter where he went, but not many places that get those kinds of results.
The truth is there is a middle ground between BOTH of our stances. My issue has never been about wanting more. It’s been with the crazy amount of negativity when a team has 7 guys AA and 2 more barely miss.
I get that isn’t enough to remotely compete with PSU and even now OkState, but you have to also acknowledge that PSU has broken the scoring record 3 years in a row and OkState just brought in the most ridiculous freshmen class I have EVER seen.
My issue is simply that Brands and staff are WAY better than many here give credit for and it is WAY harder to replace them and get better than nearly everyone on here thinks. In fact, I am truly confident that nearly every hire possible would do worse, or at the very least, no better. Change for the sake of change never made sense to me.
Simply put, there just isn’t a viable solution right now to remove Brands and get better. I also know that Brands hates losing more than just about anyone on the planet so he is 100% trying everything he can to get better.
Finally, read between the lines of one of his last interviews on here. He absolutely stressed his compliance department and following the rules to the letter, including NIL. I am about as confident as I can be that he is absolutely dealing with limitations that PSU and OkState haven’t been. If that is true, a new coach may not even want the job knowing he doesn’t have the same resources to try to catch the top 2…
I think you should have set a point total as your threshold for determining what would be a successful tournament after observing the brackets. If you said "75 points is a successful tournament", as an example, then you would not be open to the criticism of "part but not all, but this makes it better because it went over the other metric" gymnastics. I know you enjoy that though, setting up your "success level" as you did allowed for interpretation, debate, grey areas and people pissed. That said, I thought Iowa looked as good as they have all year.
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They scored 92.5 points. No matter the parsing, they absolutely exceeded my threshold no matter how I worded it.
As far as the stalking goes, I thoroughly enjoy it. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy like a newly washed and fresh out of the dryer blanket!
Can't believe how many of these losers actually think about us
. Man being wrong really takes its toll on people. Weak minded people shouldn't be wrestling fans. Can't win them all but we are definitely winning 
No one likes a dissenting opinion. I expected this no matter what. I even said so when I made that post and got blasted for it as being nearly impossible. I have a pretty strong ability to recognize nearly all possibilities and even I am not sure how hard we would be getting roasted on here if Iowa had 3 or 4 AA’s and only scored 40 something points like many of them were pandering for all season long…Can't believe how many of these losers actually think about us
Just proved to me that many here don't know a thing about wrestling and should probably start following a different sport. I can always tell when they start naming people to replace Tom. The names these people throw out are hilarious. Look at how some of the teams did at NCAA and those coaches were mentioned it's hilarious. Some just don't like Tom so they're blind
There's negativity bc Iowa doesn't need to accept this as the new normal.
No one wants to hear about lack of resources or whispers of cheating. Neither are remotely close to being the sole reasons why other schools are recruiting and developing champions and Iowa isn't.
I think it is a dig at Taylor and Okie St., but who knows.
You do know that those 2 posters are trolling? They may possible be the same person.
The Hawks got spanked by the guy you said would be a terrible coaching hire because he had no experience.
So yeah, the Hawks did great and you really nailed it with your prognostication....
Though it's the most logical explanation I actually think they're both just this stubborn. I do believe both prefer iowa wrestling to be mediocre though and a lot of their opinions are based on that fact.
Hey @TarpHawk1 when you get some time, could you give us your annual State of the Program analysis? I know a lot of posters enjoy your analysis, myself included.
Can't believe how many of these losers actually think about us
I'm always thinking of you Corby. What can I say, I have a crush on you...Can't believe how many of these losers actually think about us
JTS you are just a weak, casual fan.I'm always thinking of you Corby. What can I say, I have a crush on you...
So, let's take a look at what MSU likes to call peaking. To start, we're talking about a team that most Hawk fans probably had going 3rd or 4th at the start of the season. I'm not gonna look back at past posts but I'd be willing to bet MSU, Moneybags Bob and Corby all had the Hawks as a real threat to finish runner-up this year. The Hawks finished 4th... that's what MSU calls peaking.
Let's look individually now. At 125 every single Hawk fan had past All American Dean Peterson on the podium again. He didn't place. Peaking! At 133 you had two time returning national finalist finish 5th. PEAKING! At 141, Nasir Bailey, someone you all said had a great shot at becoming an All American again, finish off the podium. He was a past AA at Little Rock for crying out loud. Peaking! At 149, I'm gonna go ahead and give MSU this one although personally I thought a 5th through 8th might be obtainable at a weak weight. 157, Another Little Rock kid that many of you had as a real threat to AA. Hell...he was pulled from the lineup and didn't even qualify because his back up took the spot and didn't qualify himself. Peaking. At 165, you had Caliendo reach the finals again against Messenbrink. He took a worse beating in this years finals than he did last season. Peaking! At 174, Kennedy, the kid you all had as amulti time National Champ when he committed improved one spot from last season. Ok...if you want to call it peaking then so be it. 184 your sure fire multi time national champ, the one MSU and most of you picked as this year's champion finished 6th. Peaking. 197...I'll give you this one. 285 Ben Keuter. Another that when he committed was to be future National Champ. Most predicted he'd be on the podium this season improved from 8th last season to 5th thisxseason in a much much much weaker Hwt class. Yeah...ok...peaking.
Let's look individually now. At 125 every single Hawk fan had past All American Dean Peterson on the podium again. He didn't place. Peaking! At 133 you had two time returning national finalist finish 5th. PEAKING! At 141, Nasir Bailey, someone you all said had a great shot at becoming an All American again, finish off the podium. He was a past AA at Little Rock for crying out loud. Peaking! At 149, I'm gonna go ahead and give MSU this one although personally I thought a 5th through 8th might be obtainable at a weak weight. 157, Another Little Rock kid that many of you had as a real threat to AA. Hell...he was pulled from the lineup and didn't even qualify because his back up took the spot and didn't qualify himself. Peaking. At 165, you had Caliendo reach the finals again against Messenbrink. He took a worse beating in this years finals than he did last season. Peaking! At 174, Kennedy, the kid you all had as amulti time National Champ when he committed improved one spot from last season. Ok...if you want to call it peaking then so be it. 184 your sure fire multi time national champ, the one MSU and most of you picked as this year's champion finished 6th. Peaking. 197...I'll give you this one. 285 Ben Keuter. Another that when he committed was to be future National Champ. Most predicted he'd be on the podium this season improved from 8th last season to 5th thisxseason in a much much much weaker Hwt class. Yeah...ok...peaking.
Feelings are mutual but you already knew thatI'm always thinking of you Corby. What can I say, I have a crush on you...
You still think a team can only peak once a season. @vhsalum please explain wrestling to this guy I'm battling others
If you see a mistake just call me out on it. Correct. He wasn't. Just like he wasn't this season. Let's go ahead and call the weight Peaking then.
Whoa that was from back in November! Am I living...dare I say...rent free in your head?You still think a team can only peak once a season. @vhsalum please explain wrestling to this guy I'm battling others
Next year when they faceplant after the David Taylor National duals you and MSU can just say they "adrenaline dumped" and hit their planned "first peak".
No just saw 158 and was like that's the dumba*s who doesn't understand peaking
Maybe you are just tired from the weekend. I really thought you could do better than that for a reply. Have a great day!
Just out of curiosity what are you winning? LmfaoCan't believe how many of these losers actually think about us
Thought you weren't an iowa fan why do you care if people name someone you don't like.
Thats a fact. they are not fans of iowa. I'm a psu fan and i want more than one iowa wrestler in the finals more like 3 or 4 thats iowa wrestling going head to head with the best these numbnuts think finishing 4th is amazing because it exceeded expectations lmfao what a joke then claim nobody knows wrestling because they spit all names to replace tom lol. They need jobs
I'm always thinking of you Corby. What can I say, I have a crush on you...
They can peak all season they just don't peak in marchYou still think a team can only peak once a season. @vhsalum please explain wrestling to this guy I'm battling others
They have to be the same person. Can you imagine being as miserable as “them” and what they post? I actually feel sorry for them.
It’s an interesting position to be in.
3rd best funded team needs to wrestle well above seed to hold on to 4th.
TnT did a good job getting this team to peak at 4th. They did a good job of that. But they are also responsible for putting the team out on the mat that has to wrestle far above seed to get 4th.
As far as wrestlers reading and being affected by what is written online. That comes with the job. It happens. If PK was bothered by me pointing out I thought it was ridiculous to ride an unranked wrestler for 3:20 to get a decision then work on some tilts. I know ‘the other guy wants to win as well’
Spin it however you want, while wrestling above expectations is good having those as expectations is not.
3rd best funded team needs to wrestle well above seed to hold on to 4th.
TnT did a good job getting this team to peak at 4th. They did a good job of that. But they are also responsible for putting the team out on the mat that has to wrestle far above seed to get 4th.
As far as wrestlers reading and being affected by what is written online. That comes with the job. It happens. If PK was bothered by me pointing out I thought it was ridiculous to ride an unranked wrestler for 3:20 to get a decision then work on some tilts. I know ‘the other guy wants to win as well’
Spin it however you want, while wrestling above expectations is good having those as expectations is not.
They can name whoever they want . I just know immediately if they know wrestling that's all