Dear God, this board has gone full retard.

[drt7891]

I can handle football season breakdowns, even after a loss... I can handle the rabble that goes on after an egg bowl loss... Hell, I can handle baseball and basketball meltdowns, fire Stans arguments, and "why we can't hit" breakdowns... but recruiting season is awful. Not only are well over half the threads on the front page about recruiting, they are about Ole Miss conspiracy theories, Yancy, Kalio Moore, and the MEMPHIS FREAKIN' MAFIA.... ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Damn, people... crawl out of Peewee's playhouse long enough to realize that sweating this much over a 17 year old kids decision to go to college (one most State fans knew wouldn't commit to us, on top of that) and Ole Miss conspiracy theories is not a healthy use of your time...

This is the reason I HATE recruiting season.

 

[121Josey]

It's spelled Kailo. *Peewee laugh*

 

[Dawg1976]

It will always be this way this time of year. Just the way it is.

 

[DerHntr]

I tried starting a year in review type thread with no luck. Crootin is a helluva drug.

 

[mcdawg22]

I've said it once, I'll say it again. The whole reason these message boards exist is recruiting. That is where their roots are, it's when it gets the most interesting. That combined with the coaching changes is where these boards sometimes shine because info often breaks here first. Sometimes false info, but sometimes true. As a seasoned vet I'll tell you just expect the worst and maybe you get pleasantly surprised. Although I didn't see CJ coming two years ago.

 

[CadaverDawg]

I can handle football season breakdowns, even after a loss... I can handle the rabble that goes on after an egg bowl loss... Hell, I can handle baseball and basketball meltdowns, fire Stans arguments, and "why we can't hit" breakdowns... but recruiting season is awful. Not only are well over half the threads on the front page about recruiting, they are about Ole Miss conspiracy theories, Yancy, Kalio Moore, and the MEMPHIS FREAKIN' MAFIA.... ARE YOU KIDDING ME Damn, people... crawl out of Peewee's playhouse long enough to realize that sweating this much over a 17 year old kids decision to go to college (one most State fans knew wouldn't commit to us, on top of that) and Ole Miss conspiracy theories is not a healthy use of your time...

This is the reason I HATE recruiting season.

I typically enjoy recruiting and keeping up with our commits and prospects and discussing....but you are correct. This board has lost it the last few days. The combination of paranoid MSU fans and douchebag OM fans has made it almost unbearable (no pun intended) on here.

Granted, this thread does nothing but add to it, but still.

 

[RockstarFromMars]

Gonna pretend the pun was intended, +1.

 

[bonedaddy401]

Why are you up in arms?

1. If you don't recruit well you won't win very many games. Especially in the SEC. You can't coach players up to par like you can other places in the country. If we don't get the talent when it is in Mississippi it hurts us worse than people realize.

2. This is an internet message board. Why would you expect anything other than off the wall accusations, rumor, innuendo, hyperbole, over reaction and assumption. I'm surprised it's not worse to be honest. Were you not around for CJ Johnson, Brassell or any of the other recent "head to head" recruits we have had with Ole Miss?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

This board was made to be the different MSU board that handled good humor and sarcasm. Things that have all but disappeared from here because most of the people on here have giant vaginas and are butt hurt from losing the Egg Bowl and losing a 17ing 17 year old football player recruit. Get the 17 over it.

 

[drt7891]

Even the CJ crap wasn't this bad... It's nothing but State fans starting an outlandish rumor, bear fans rescue themselves by saying "we don't do anything wrong," "you cheat, too," "they want to play with kemdeechee," "they want to play for a more exciting offense," "Freezus is Jeezus," and all the other BS and then state fans doing nothing but continue to feed them, it's flat out unreal. I've never seen a recruiting offseason like this one.

 

[maroonmania]

Well a couple of reasons...

I typically enjoy recruiting and keeping up with our commits and prospects and discussing....but you are correct. This board has lost it the last few days. The combination of paranoid MSU fans and douchebag OM fans has made it almost unbearable (no pun intended) on here.Granted, this thread does nothing but add to it, but still.

first, anytime we lose one of our better recruits late in the game to OM its going to cause a stir. Then we had questions on the board, in general, why we seem to lose commits late in the recruiting game more than others and you really can't discuss that without bringing in some of the rather well known heppin' that goes on with the Bears. Heck, it didn't just start, its been on here for over a month about the job Kimdeechee Sr. was suppose to be getting at the UMC in Jackson. Now add to that to the fact that we haven't had a football game in over a month, our basketball team is just not worth a lot of board space, baseball is still 2 months off and what is there left to talk about?

 

[gravedigger]

I have up on the whole recruiting thing when I got the inside on brasell and singleton thing. What put me over the top was how they turned out. I will not get sucked into that crap again. Find it pretty funny how so many still do. Now, if everyone wanted to talk about the diamonds and the busts of the previous years, that might be fun. But this class is nothing to cry or reserve a hotel room in Atlanta for.

 

[drt7891]

Yes I was, and none of it was anywhere close to the Memphis Mafia going after OM coaches for recruiting someone. I understand recruiting season is nothing but drama, but this is beyond drama... this is retarded.

 

[maroonmania]

Were you around then...

Even the CJ crap wasn't this bad... It's nothing but State fans starting an outlandish rumor, bear fans rescue themselves by saying "we don't do anything wrong," "you cheat, too," "they want to play with kemdeechee," "they want to play for a more exciting offense," "Freezus is Jeezus," and all the other BS and then state fans doing nothing but continue to feed them, it's flat out unreal. I've never seen a recruiting offseason like this one.

the board now is not even close to the meltdown mode it was over CJ. You may not like the topics but the discussion the last couple of days has been pretty reasonable. I don't think anyone is jumping off buildings because we are losing Moore. When we lost CJ people seemed to go on suicide watch.

 

[DerHntr]

Yes I was, and none of it was anywhere close to the Memphis Mafia going after OM coaches for recruiting someone. I understand recruiting season is nothing but drama, but this is beyond drama... this is retarded.

You could always try starting threads that aren't recruiting related. If every person who has responded so far would start a new thread that is sports related and not recruiting related, rather than just bitching, then it would be bearable.

 

[CadaverDawg]

You could always try starting threads that aren't recruiting related. If every person who has responded so far would start a new thread that is sports related and not recruiting related, rather than just bitching, then it would be bearable.

one step ahead of you, but...no responses, ha

 

[bonedaddy401]

Well that thread may have been out there but....

overall it hasn't been that bad. I think most State fans saw the Moore flip coming.

He also isn't the caliber of player Brassell and CJ were/are. Now if Shumpert goes UM or our class starts to get cherry picked this place may implode.

I think it may feel worse this year because it seems like it happens every year and we have never flipped one from OM to State late in the game.

Have a beer and lay in the grass buddy. Life is good.

 

[Bm4c]

Not only are well over half the threads on the front page about recruiting, they are about Ole Miss conspiracy theories, Yancy, Kalio Moore, and the MEMPHIS FREAKIN' MAFIA.... ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Damn, people... crawl out of Peewee's playhouse long enough to realize that sweating this much over a 17 year old kids decision to go to college (one most State fans knew wouldn't commit to us, on top of that) and Ole Miss conspiracy theories is not a healthy use of your time...

This is the reason I HATE recruiting season.

I hate our propensity to start calling our ole miss relatives (I have rebel relatives, don't you?) racists every time something doesn't go right. I think discussing the 1960's in ms (as if Starkville were on another planet) every time a kid's 2013 college decision is being made, seems beyond asinine. I may be wrong tho.

 

[BehrDawg]

See, this is the difference between MSU and OM. They do very well with recruiting every year-even on a down year. Is it because they cheat? Of course it is. But everyone else cheats, too. With that said- OM does it better than us. They are more coordinated and their fans move in the same direction. They care about bringing in solid talent every year. Do they get upset when they miss out on someone? Yep. They sure do and usually, they do something about it. Many of our fans, such as yourself, sit here and play the "it doesn't mean ****" card. Well, yes- actually it means a lot. Do you want to bring in Croomesque type talent every year and be ******? Or do you want to bring in solid talent every year and compete? Now don't get me wrong, we have done very well the last few years IMO. We still have a great class this year, but don't be so damn quick to call people out when they get upset about losing someone. If you don't care, then by all means- continue to call people out and try to look like a hero. But for those of us that are serious about MSU football moving towards the next level, we will get concerned and stay in tune to who we are bringing in to continue building our program.

Now, to those of you who are in full meltdown mode over losing one guy. Why don't you try not acting like a bunch of 17ing pompus asses. Perhaps our fans should try and work in a joined effort in figuring out how to stop losing long-time commits to OM. Don't sit there and trash talk a recruit because he flips. Wish the kid luck. Then try figuring out what went wrong and help move forward. I know a thread was locked on this earlier in the week (surprise surprise), but social media plays a very important role these days in recruits. If you are a member of twitter, check out how the beat writers re-tweet recruits messages. Those kids love that ****. And if any of you don't believe that they cruise the message boards, then you are a fool. They read this **** all the time. Try not acting like a bunch of 17ing idiots.

Edited: Meant to reply to the original poster-sorry maroonmania

 

[was21]

As much as I hate to admit, it's admissible as a sign of a feeling of inferiority on the part of some posters who would never admit it. Recruiting season brings out the worst and it does in fact...suck as a season...there are five seasons: spring, summer, autumn, winter and recruiting.

 

[CadaverDawg]

See, this is the difference between MSU and OM. They do very well with recruiting every year-even on a down year. Is it because they cheat? Of course it is. But everyone else cheats, too. With that said- OM does it better than us. They are more coordinated and their fans move in the same direction. They care about bringing in solid talent every year. Do they get upset when they miss out on someone? Yep. They sure do and usually, they do something about it. Many of our fans, such as yourself, sit here and play the "it doesn't mean ****" card. Well, yes- actually it means a lot. Do you want to bring in Croomesque type talent every year and be ******? Or do you want to bring in solid talent every year and compete? Now don't get me wrong, we have done very well the last few years IMO. We still have a great class this year, but don't be so damn quick to call people out when they get upset about losing someone. If you don't care, then by all means- continue to call people out and try to look like a hero. But for those of us that are serious about MSU football moving towards the next level, we will get concerned and stay in tune to who we are bringing in to continue building our program.

Now, to those of you who are in full meltdown mode over losing one guy. Why don't you try not acting like a bunch of 17ing pompus asses. Perhaps our fans should try and work in a joined effort in figuring out how to stop losing long-time commits to OM. Don't sit there and trash talk a recruit because he flips. Wish the kid luck. Then try figuring out what went wrong and help move forward. I know a thread was locked on this earlier in the week (surprise surprise), but social media plays a very important role these days in recruits. If you are a member of twitter, check out how the beat writers re-tweet recruits messages. Those kids love that ****. And if any of you don't believe that they cruise the message boards, then you are a fool. They read this **** all the time. Try not acting like a bunch of 17ing idiots.

And they taste the hot dogs too!!1! I'm looking at you, Scott!!1!!*

Sorry, had to.

 

[diddog]

The problem is we are not recruiting well

Mullen has essentially played out the string with Croom recruits. Each of Mullen's teams has been dominated by Croom recruits - even in year four. They are running out, and it showed this year against real competition. Thankfully, we still have Croom recruits Tobias Smith and Gabe Jackson next year we would really suck on the OL. Those are our best players. If we don't recruit better, we are not going to be better. Just the way it is.
In the past two years, our best win, rankings-wise, is Louisiana Tech. Louisiana Tech. We beat them at home. In overtime.

 

[121Josey]

I hope that when Mullen runs out of recruits, we don't lose 16 SEC games in a row. We used to count TSUN as an automatic win, but they've taken all our recruits. Boo Hoo.

 

[SkullCandy.sixpack]

Someone said it on another post--part of the success in OM recruiting in the Party School atmosphere. There's a reason Florida and Texas recruit well every year, no matter who the coach is--the campus is in a cool city, with a lot to inpress an 18 yer old kid. Ditto Southern Cal. OM emphasizes the party/hot coeds factor. You really think Mullen doesn't want them to visit oxford because they will get better bribes there? Reality is all the hype about the Grove etc impresses high school kids, many of them probably still like going to the zoo or a circus. Kids like parties. They stormed the field after the Egg Bowl. Circus atmosphere up there.

 

[Todd4State]

Someone said it on another post--part of the success in OM recruiting in the Party School atmosphere. There's a reason Florida and Texas recruit well every year, no matter who the coach is--the campus is in a cool city, with a lot to inpress an 18 yer old kid. Ditto Southern Cal. OM emphasizes the party/hot coeds factor. You really think Mullen doesn't want them to visit oxford because they will get better bribes there? Reality is all the hype about the Grove etc impresses high school kids, many of them probably still like going to the zoo or a circus. Kids like parties. They stormed the field after the Egg Bowl. Circus atmosphere up there.

You haven't been to Gainesville have you? Or your really cool city standards are pretty low.

Those three schools recruit well because they are located in the most talent rich parts of the country as far as football talent. Shoot, USC is actually in a somewhat rough part of town. All three of those teams you mentioned could put together a national championship caliber team off of in-state talent alone if they wanted to.

 

[SkullCandy.sixpack]

Maybe it's just me (but it's not), but I love Gainesville (and florida in general except extreme south). There are a whole lot of schools in the same areas (California, Texas, Florida) that absolutely suck. Lubbock vs Austin--it's the city. Per capita, no one produces more NFL talent than Mississippi--but there's a reason other than money some of our recruits leave for greener pastures. There are a lot of pastures in Mississippi. It's a rural area, and some recruits aren't into it. USC has LA to dazzle them. Very true that the campus is in a war zone, but it's a great little oasis and beautiful. And you have the heart of LA as your playground. Let's face it, all cities were not created equal. Starkville the town is not a major draw. Even when they hire stupid coaches, some schools just attract better players. We are dissecting the reasons why we don't attract the best recruits--and virtually none from out of state. I think that's why. Sucks because we can't change it, but reality bites. That's why we have to concentrate on in-state.

 

[engie]

Mullen has essentially played out the string with Croom recruits. Each of Mullen's teams has been dominated by Croom recruits - even in year four. They are running out, and it showed this year against real competition. Thankfully, we still have Croom recruits Tobias Smith and Gabe Jackson next year we would really suck on the OL. Those are our best players. If we don't recruit better, we are not going to be better. Just the way it is.
In the past two years, our best win, rankings-wise, is Louisiana Tech. Louisiana Tech. We beat them at home. In overtime.

Where does this stupidity come from? The expiration date of your post even making sense was February of 2011. Seriously.

Mullen's current class beats the ever living dog **** out off ANYTHING Croom ever put together in recruiting. Last year's class was better than ANYTHING Croom even thought about having. This is so damn stupid. You just want to give Croom credit for Mullen's player development. In 5 years, do you know how many of HIS OWN recruits Croom put into the NFL? The answer is ZERO. He put THREE total guys into the NFL in five years, all Jackie Sherrill recruits. Mullen has ELEVEN guys there in 3 years -- and that will be FIFTEEN OR SIXTEEN after this year. Croom inherited a roster that was about twice as talented as the one Mullen inherited. Not Mullen's fault Croom kicked all the talent off and/or didn't develop it worth a damn.

The current OL is decent because of Croom? You've got to be 17ing kidding me! Had Croom bothered to recruit any warm bodies in 2008 and 2009 on the OL other than Tobias and Gabe(that's right...he got 1 contributor in each of those years), we would have won at least 9 damn games last year...and we wouldn't have been taking flyers on JUCO backup plans.

Croom is an ace recruiter now -- because Mullen turned his 2* no-offer recruits into 5* players. I've officially heard it all.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

DCD is right, recruiting is the worst part of message boards**

N

 

[mcdawg22]

I know that, but the thing that started this board was the old gene Skuttlebutts that ended up being ********, and when HD, DS, Josh, and a host of other people called out gene on his BS we all got banned and the pack started this board.

 

[AFDawg]

Where does this stupidity come from? The expiration date of your post even making sense was February of 2011. Seriously.
...
Croom is an ace recruiter now -- because Mullen turned his 2* no-offer recruits into 5* players. I've officially heard it all.

I, personally, really appreciate the "Mullen wins with Croom recruits" posts. They're one of my idiot filters. I know then never to listen to anything that poster has to say again whatsoever.

 

[Coach34]

I, personally, really appreciate the "Mullen wins with Croom recruits" posts. They're one of my idiot filters. I know then never to listen to anything that poster has to say again whatsoever.

no kidding. He could have saved all those keystrokes and typed "I AM STUPID"

 

[121Josey]

Maybe it's just me (but it's not), but I love Gainesville (and florida in general except extreme south). There are a whole lot of schools in the same areas (California, Texas, Florida) that absolutely suck. Lubbock vs Austin--it's the city.

What's your point? Is it the cities that suck or the schools that suck?

Per capita, no one produces more NFL talent than Mississippi--but there's a reason other than money some of our recruits leave for greener pastures. There are a lot of pastures in Mississippi. It's a rural area, and some recruits aren't into it.

How many Mississippi recruits have left Mississippi in the past say 5 years? Almost none. Jeremy Liggins is the only name that comes to mind and where did he end up?

USC has LA to dazzle them. Very true that the campus is in a war zone, but it's a great little oasis and beautiful. And you have the heart of LA as your playground. Let's face it, all cities were not created equal. Starkville the town is not a major draw. Even when they hire stupid coaches, some schools just attract better players.

What about UCLA? Cal? Program tradition wouldn't have anything to do with it.**

We are dissecting the reasons why we don't attract the best recruits--and virtually none from out of state. I think that's why. Sucks because we can't change it, but reality bites. That's why we have to concentrate on in-state.

We get plenty of recruits from out-of state. Mississippi doesn't have enough talent to field 2 SEC programs. Auburn, Tuscaloosa, Oxford, Starkville, Fayetteville are all college towns. And they get their fair share of talent.

 

[121Josey]

dittos

 

[Rebeltussin]

So Mullen has turned 2* no offer players into 5* players. That's great stuff.

 

[FlabLoser]

So Mullen has turned 2* no offer players into 5* players. That's great stuff.

Banks had no other offers, so he was pretty much 2 star. How many stars is he worth now?

(Insert blaming Banks for a safety's failure to cover Moncrief)

 

[dawgstudent]

See ya around signing day.