Definitely Nothing to See Here
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Told by a Congressman, He better lawyer up.
Have we locked up Brett Farve yet? We might need to get our own house in order.
Got to get his house in order before he goes to some kush federal penitentiary for a vacation
Brett Favre & Phil Bryant deserve the same level of scrutiny & punishment as ***Coach Walz***.
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Thank goodness we are unburdened by that has been.
How about we put both of them in jail?
Why the deflection? Brett Favre has nothing to do with Minnesota's fraud. These are 2 totally different instances and deflecting the conversation implies empathy for the accused. For the record, on the Favre front, I am all for the State of Mississippi pursuing every legal recourse to assure the citizens are made whole and crimes punished.
They are both fraud and need to be prosecuted as such. Mt point was .... "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye." Matthew 7:3
No she wouldn't. Dems should have let it come down to the convention rather than threaten anyone who voted against her. Really should have had legitimate primary elections rather than try to steal an election.
Nothing excuses the alleged welfare fraud in Mississippi. It was approximately $100M (a huge deal), perpetrated by a handful of bad actors, and there are people right now on trial for it. Our state government found the fraud and is pursuing it. Whether Favre taking $1M for "speaking engagements" constitutes fraud, ignorance, or willful ignorance, I guess we will see.
But to compare our case to the widespread, systematic defrauding of the state and US taxpayers (1) by an entire migrant population whose home country is known to be actively hostile to the United States; (2) where the Minnesota state and local government was ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING, and said fraud is now being DEFENDED by the current people in state governance; and (3) all in an amount now estimated to be at least $9B -- 90 TIMES the case here in our state -- seems like a bit of a stretch.
Did Brett Farve commit fraud? I seriously doubt he was signing grant applications or making reps and warranties on behalf of USM or whoever received the money.
Whoever that was would presumably be civilly if not criminally liable unless the state screwed up the application such that they didn't have to make any false statements or breach any reps or warranties to funnel money to a volleyball court.
She was doomed from the start and she had 1.5 billion to spend.
He's not going to jail. Just like everything else politician do that if we did, we would go to jail but he will not. All of them are protected class.
Hell half the business owners in Mississippi (AND THE NATION FOR THAT MATTER) that applied for covid "relief" funds would be in jail if they were pursued for fraudulent applications for and uses of said funds ......and they should be .
I am asking this question as I legitimately do not know the answer. What has he done wrong? I get this happened on his watch, but has he directly connected to it? Not saying there shouldn’t be consequences when things like this happen on your watch, I just truly don’t know to what degree he is culpable in this.
Unfortunately, I have a hard time believing ANYTHING I read because it feels like there is some sort of political ulterior motive behind it.
Unfortunately, I have a hard time believing ANYTHING I read because it feels like there is some sort of political ulterior motive behind it.
The lack of financial oversight for funds handed out almost 6 years ago, is deeply frustrating.
And lack of financial oversight for funds handed out since then is also deeply frustrating.
My job has a massive amount of financial oversight- I oversee and my work is audited but multiple groups. It is annoying but beneficial. People who intentionally misuse public funds are a special type of awful.
As for Walz- I dont understand why he is stepping aside. It isnt like he is known to have been profiting from this scandal and it isnt like him stepping aside will make the incident go away. Whatever though, I guess.
And lack of financial oversight for funds handed out since then is also deeply frustrating.
My job has a massive amount of financial oversight- I oversee and my work is audited but multiple groups. It is annoying but beneficial. People who intentionally misuse public funds are a special type of awful.
As for Walz- I dont understand why he is stepping aside. It isnt like he is known to have been profiting from this scandal and it isnt like him stepping aside will make the incident go away. Whatever though, I guess.
Ted Dibiase Jr is headed to court this week. The charges that are being brought against him are bad. I'm reading Favre has paid back $1.1 million and is being pursued for over $700,000 in interest which I assume is a time value penalty. Whether or not DiBiase has returned any money I'm not sure. Additionally Favre has been trying to sell his property in Hattiesburg for over a year and they're haven't been any takers. I'm assuming he's pretty much bled dry from having to return the 1.1 million and now he has an asset he can't liquidate.
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Pretty sure Brett wasnt funding Al Shebob or whatever that Somalian Islamic terrorist group is. But yeah...stop picking on Tampon Tim
I don’t know. Those requirements to show you faced hardship were incredibly vague. They were written that way intentionally. The people who wrote the rules probably claimed more than anyone through indirect channels.
What brett Favre did isn’t illegal. You can argue it’s unethical yes but it wasn’t illegal.
if the state of Mississippi calls me and says hey we need you to do project management in 6 months and we wanna pay you now, I can take the payment. If they never call me to do the work, did I steal the money?
It's almost like his campaign and other democratic campaigns were/are illegally funded
You don’t think Tim Knew about this stuff?
there are government departments in Minnesota who tweeted saying they had confronted him with evidence
Yup. The argument was that they needed the money out quickly and couldn’t bog it down with a bunch of requirements, and if you waited until after people experienced hardship it would be too late a lot of times.
So it was basically free money to businesses not hurt by shutdowns, and didn’t really help those that were shut down.
Really was a criminally stupid program. Worst one since the clunkers for cash. At least PPP didn’t actually destroy much wealth I guess. Just stole from some to give to others. Much bigger theft though.
Generally true, but a couple of Alabama governors have spent some time in prison.
I don't know if he did or didn't know.
As @HailStout said earlier today, it is incredibly difficult to figure out what is true. What is speculation, what is misinformation, what is misunderstood information, and what is just false.
- The fraud was somewhere between tens of millions and $9 BILLION. That is an ocean sized difference.
- He said his Administration addressed fraud and I read that once they had more authority in mid-'25, they were able to stop more payments than before.
What is true? What is false?
If he knew there was confirmed fraud and he chose to not stop it, he sucks.
And I have read reports that stated some responsible parties were discovered, tried, and convicted back in '22.
But I have also read Walz's Administration was working on shutting stuff down this past summer.
I really don't know what is actually the truth. I can't tell how much truth is in each tweet/report/interview.
It sucks.
This is what happens when misinformation and disinformation is celebrated and encouraged by the people.
Again- if Walz is on the take, he should be tried and jailed.
Anyone who improperly profits from their position of influence should be held responsible.
That is one viewpoint I wish we shared.
I hate the current world of news. Walz may be a criminal piece of ****, incompetent, or just the guy left holding the bag. Every freaking news outlet has an agenda so I can’t freaking tell.
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Didn't know there were "kush" federal penitentiaries out there. Most are pretty bad.
Agree. And social media 'links' just make it worse. I keep hearing about this or that but yet nothing ever happens to anybody.
I try to read both and meet in the middle. In this situation, all I can take away from it was that there was a lot of fraud due to a lax program. I don't think Walz intentionally did it, but he's soft and was scared of losing votes in his camp so he kind of did the plausible deniability thing.
The issue I have is that while conservatives are right about the liberal incompetency, they are actually arguing now for MORE government regulation and oversight of these funds. Which is needed. But they've spent the last year telling us how government sucks and is corrupt and needs less regulation.
major difference between regulations on private businesses/individuals and regulations on Federal Funding
Cool. So if a private business or individual receives any type of federal funding, they should then be subject to high oversight and scrutiny. And I trust you would say the same about state funding as well.
I doubt that viewpoint is what you intended with your post, based on how it would logically play out, but it is definitely the end result regardless.
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