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No excuse for Porter to not be in the line-up...it's pretty simple
I wish our SID or whoever does these things could give us the lefty righty splits. I'd be down with a Norris-Detz platoon if the numbers add up. Henderson is my LF.
Is detz in a slump or have people figured out how to pitch to him?
I agree. Henderson needs to be the guy with Robson getting some time here and there.
Detz has got to be moved out of the 4-hole. slide him behind Rea and Porter
Detz cleanup is dumb as hell.
Or maybe lets try woodruff out there one game. Might help him get his confidence up and take his mind off pitching for a game.
Why? I still like him in the 4-hole with Rea and Porter behind him although he's obviously not a prototypical 4-hole guy.
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1) He's a singles hitter
2) People will more likely pitch around Renfroe to face him
3) Now that he is seeing better pitching, he is hitting around .240 since SEC play started
4) We need Rea and Porter behind Renfroe to give us some pop in the middle
Here we go with your moronism's again. You obviously need a refresher course in how I slaughtered you last time you tried to engage this lineup discussion.
MY lineup put up 13 tonight against one of the best midmajors in the country.... How has yours been doing lately?
Has nothing at all to do with him being LOCKED into the 3-hole during conference play. No, Nothing...Um... We're 7-1 with Renfroe cleanup, 6-5 with him 3 hole.
No -- my slaughtering was your ignorant argument not following it's own basis. That's it. Feel free to show me where "I said that Rea should be batting 4th" though -- because it has not happened.Renfroe's slugging is twice that of Rea. Your 'slaughtering' was based on your retarded notion of Rea out slugging Renfroe. Laughable
Why is it absurd. Feel free to use facts... if you can...Try again in the future, as far as lineups go you can sit that discussion out. Detz cleanup? Absurd.
1) He's a singles hitter - Best OB% on the team -- Works as second leadoff for Rea/Porter, after Frasier and Bradford set the plate for Renfroe
2) People will more likely pitch around Renfroe to face him - This is true -- but then he's still more likely to get on base and have multiple ducks on the pond for Rea and Porter.
3) Now that he is seeing better pitching, he is hitting around .240 since SEC play started -- Is it a trend or a short lull? That's what needs to be established. How has he hit our pitching in scrimmages? I don't pretend to know. I do know that no one other than Renfroe has been really hitting these past 2 weeks consistently well.
4) We need Rea and Porter behind Renfroe to give us some pop in the middle -- True. But why do they need to be directly behind Renfroe? I don't like the proposition of having singles, singles, power, power, power, singles, singles, singles, singles. That's essentially 6 leadoff men for our power hitters -- thus it would require 3 hits to score 2/3 of the time
There is no need to break it up like that Engie. The reason Miggy and Prince hit back to back is so that when people are on base if the first power guy doesn't get it done (7 out of 10 times) the next power guy is there. You don't want singles hitters cleanup Engie.
Also, you can't qualify Renfroe as just power, as he gets on base more than anybody, Rea too for that matter. It isn't about singles vs power. It's about maximizing runs.
Um they will pitch around Renfroe to get to Detz where they wouldn't to get to Rea and Porter. Since they will have to pitch to Renfroe we will score more runs. That wasn't so hard.
Goat is right in saying you have an inability to use statistics. Seriously, you are saying Detz will produce more runs than Rea? And you really think Detz will finish slugging higher than Rea? You are a joke when it comes to baseball.
Do I think Detz will finish with a higher slugging? Does it matter? He's got the higher slugging right now -- that is ALL you can base things on RIGHT NOW.
and having a couple connections that allowed me to "see behind the curtain" in MLB growing up -- several people in this thread know all this already...
There is no need to break it up like that Engie. The reason Miggy and Prince hit back to back is so that when people are on base if the first power guy doesn't get it done (7 out of 10 times) the next power guy is there. You don't want singles hitters cleanup Engie.
Hilarious.And this is where you don't know how to combine statistics and common sense.
Correct. It simply establishes a lifelong baseball pedigree that goes beyond reading really 2 websites and labeling yourself a baseball guru... which is what you've done.Joe Torre was ****ing one man over in the WBC. That was not smart. I don't give a 17 if you saw the MLB curtains. Doesn't make you right in an argument.
....labeling yourself a baseball guru... which is what you've done.
Will has called in his reinforcement(singular), I see...
Actually, I've just given up. But Will is right on this.
Right on what? That Detz can't hit in the 4-hole despite the fact that he's still the 2nd best RBI guy, 3rd best slugging, and best OB guy on our team?
Good example of projection. You NEED the approval of others (plural) whereas I don't need board approval to know I'm right. If credibility is what you are truly after, you've lost a ton these past couple of days.
Only a moron thinks he will be those things going forward in SEC play...
Stats + common sense Engie.
Only a moron thinks they can predict the future by ignoring the past. Simple fact.
Past performance is the best indicator of future performance. Also "common sense".
Ignoring the past? Have you seen the PAST few weekends? In SEC PLAY
slugging: Detz 8th
on- base: Detz 6th
RBI's: Detz 6th
Lulz
ETA He was 2-11 against UCA. So our last 3 weekend series' Detz is 5-28 but lets bat him cleanup!!!1!!111!!
I'm calling the last 3 weekends the anomaly -- not the reality of who he is. Cohen obviously agrees since he hasn't been dropped in the lineup -- nor was CT Bradford when I believe you were one of the ones calling for his head and wanting him moved to the 9-hole when he went cold a few weeks ago.