Looking at their commitment list, they have only two from the Mississippi. Also both of them are from South Panola.
Did Nutt give up on in state recruits.
- Thread starter therightway
- Start date
Looking at their commitment list, they have only two from the Mississippi. Also both of them are from South Panola.
he just operated the old school way of waiting to heat up recruiting until after the season, so the majority of his push always came in January.
Obviously he won't be around for that push this year. Right now, our commit list looks a lot like it usually had in previous years under Nutt at this time of year.
Obviously he won't be around for that push this year. Right now, our commit list looks a lot like it usually had in previous years under Nutt at this time of year.
but there is only a handful of SEC caliber MS seniors this year and most are still uncommitted. We can only sign around 18-20 guys and Nutt was holding outfor Liggins, Ward, Evans, Jefferson, Brown and Alford, who are all stilluncommitted.Other than those mentionedand the USP guys who should have Nutt gone after with only so many schollies to give?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Nutt and Evans aren't even on the same page. It has been and will come down to LSU, Bama, and us. According to your boy Yancy, yall don't even want him......... Right... Like yall didn't want Bumphis* because he was "too slow".whereisomaha said:
*irrelevant that he isn't that great, every team in the southeast wanted him
I mean that MS talent is down this year and there are about7 kids who have offers from a BCS school outside of MS.
Bruiser means when alumni freaked out and started throwing cash around. The sensible part of me realizes this is not a usual recruiting tactic for the majority of recruits but I will never believe that CJ wasn't paid to go to Ole Miss.
I dont follow Yancy and dont know anyone who does. I dontknow why state fans assume every OM fan believes everything Yancy says. We dont think you all believe everything Gene says. I have no ideaabout where Quay is on Nutt's radar. I dont know if you have heard, but Nutt isnt our coach anymore and the team's recruiter Quay is leaning towards the most is our leading candidate for our HC job.We also have absolutely no one who can play NT if we land Kirby so I can imagine Quay's interest in OM may improve in afew weeks.esplanade91 said:
Duckworth, James, and Grindle.
So Ole Miss didn't want those three guys?
And now, Ole Miss only goes after in-stateguys that other BCS schools, excluding MSU, have offered? That, quite simply, is ridiculous. If that was the case, then MSU and Ole Miss would not have football teams.
So Ole Miss didn't want those three guys?
And now, Ole Miss only goes after in-stateguys that other BCS schools, excluding MSU, have offered? That, quite simply, is ridiculous. If that was the case, then MSU and Ole Miss would not have football teams.
Does anyoneelse? I think Grinde may have been offered by Arkansas ,but beside him no one else wants them outside of MS. To be honest I'd like Desper and Giles, but like I said earlier we can only take 18-20 guys and I'd rather havenamesI've listed earlier. If you make the Dandy 12 in MS you should have an offer from a non MS BCS school. Only half of them do this year. MS talent is down and there isnt even an argument against that. Lack of talent and very few schollies is why we havent signed many of these guys.rugbdawg said:
since CJ practically confirms it with every word and tweet that comes out of his mouth. He really doesn't make much of an attempt to conceal it.
Its not that we wouldnt like them, but withsofew schollies we dont need them. We landed the best LB class in the SEC last year is why we dont Duckworthor Grindle. James isobvious and you people are hypocrites after all the **** you give us for signing"thugs who will never get into schoolto getrecruiting stars".Grindle is a Matthew Wells. Good HSRB, but not SEC caliber RB. Im much happier with I'Tavius Matthews and I think most would agree.rugbdawg said:
you aren't going to see more than about 8 to 10 MS kids, if that many, get legitimate big time BCS offers outside the state. MS just doesn't have that many big time prospects that our surrounding states would rather have than signing their own kids. MS has a lot of underdeveloped raw talent which is where having a good developmental system, like Mullen is trying to put in place, will hopefully pay off for us eventually if we get enough redshirted experienced players in the system. Having to play a bunch of guys as true freshmen, even talented ones, is not going to pay off in the long run.
Well that's not what you said. I didn't say anything about Kirby or who might eventually recruit him to go to Ole Miss. I think the subject was that <span style="font-weight: bold;">Houston Nutt</span> was waiting till after the season to make a push at Ward, [other names of some great Mississippi recruit], and <span style="font-weight: bold;">Quay Evans</span>. So which is it? Nutt gave up on recruiting Mississippi or Kirby Smart is going to recruit Evans as a NT for Ole Miss?whereisomaha said:
And yes, my motha 17'n avatar is Gerald, the lovable, slightly suspicious, questionably homeless drunk.
Best LB class in the SEC? Are you 17ing serious?
MLB - Johnson (converted to DE)
OLB - Keith Lewis
OLB - Marcus Mayers (JUCO or greyshirt)
OLB - Sederius Bryant
Am I missing something here?
Speaking of greyshirts, the enrollment of part time students at Ole Miss is going to take a hit after this semester, because I doubt the new staff is going to honor all of the greyshirts Nutt pushed last year and the years before.</p>
MLB - Johnson (converted to DE)
OLB - Keith Lewis
OLB - Marcus Mayers (JUCO or greyshirt)
OLB - Sederius Bryant
Am I missing something here?
Speaking of greyshirts, the enrollment of part time students at Ole Miss is going to take a hit after this semester, because I doubt the new staff is going to honor all of the greyshirts Nutt pushed last year and the years before.</p>
Normally, we both cheat on about the same plane. We didn't pick up our cheating last year to gain an edge on you. You had people snooping around your program with the Cam Newton deal, so you were forced to keep your normal operations on a lower level, which gave us an unusual advantage.
Your program is not any cleaner than ours. We both play the game. That's why we typically split head to head battles a good bit. The fact that you were forced to play it clean last year is what made the difference.
Your program is not any cleaner than ours. We both play the game. That's why we typically split head to head battles a good bit. The fact that you were forced to play it clean last year is what made the difference.
have scaled back the cheating under Mullen and it isn't necessarily because of Newton. Mullen for some odd reason is resisting pleas from supporters to "go get recruits". We are at a distinct disadvantage right now, Mullen isn't nearly as bad a recruiter as he is illicit fund raiser.
but like I said, if there is a change, it isn't on our end. We aren't ramping up our efforts. It's because you've ramped down your efforts regardless of the reason why. I still don't buy that Mullen is playing it clean, or at least I don't buy that there aren't members of his staff doing the dirty work without his knowledge, even if it is on a scaled down level.
Either way, the results are the same, but don't think we're cheating more than usual. Croom played it clean early on. Eventually he figured out that wouldn't work, and he started playing the game. Not coincidentally, the talent level he left in his last couple classes was significantly better than what he started with.
That's one of the things I liked about Hudspeth. He knows the game of recruiting in Mississippi, and whether we ended up with him or you end up with him in the future, he will play it and play it well at either place. Freeze gets the game too, so I'd be happy to have him.
Either way, the results are the same, but don't think we're cheating more than usual. Croom played it clean early on. Eventually he figured out that wouldn't work, and he started playing the game. Not coincidentally, the talent level he left in his last couple classes was significantly better than what he started with.
That's one of the things I liked about Hudspeth. He knows the game of recruiting in Mississippi, and whether we ended up with him or you end up with him in the future, he will play it and play it well at either place. Freeze gets the game too, so I'd be happy to have him.
but I think it was pretty obvious last year when we had a lot of guys committed that would have usually gone to Ole Miss switch at the last minute that something was going on. My guess is that the money started flowing to several recruits, which happens, but the CJ thing was just so blatant.
there is no legitimate snooping going around on any SEC program right now under Slive and there won't be. Too much money involved. In fact I can't even remember the last time ANY school (much less an SEC school) got in trouble for illegal recruiting. Yea, there are lots having problems over extra benefits going to EXISTING players, i.e. USC, Miami, Ohio State, NC, etc., but not for illegal recruiting which you know they are doing that too. We could have easily done whatever we wanted to do last year to "match" the bid on kids we lost due to that reason (in fact we had boosters WANTING to do that) but didn't because Mullen has decided he's not going to play that game. It had nothing to do with watching our back over the Cam Newton deal. Why would a "whistle blowing" school like we were in the Cam case be under any extra scrutiny anyway, that doesn't even make any sense. I can just hear the NCAA now "oh, that school chose to turn in violations rather than buy a player so we better watch them REAL close".