Did Simpson alter his lie on 17?

o_Hot Rock

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You are allowed to pickup your ball to identify it, providing your replace it precisely. A rules official can approve the replacement but I am not sure it's necessary. I think I might just google that to get a more descriptive ruling.
 

o_Hot Rock

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  • <span style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana">Before lifting the ball, you must <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">announce your intention</span> to your fellow-competitor in stroke play, or your opponent in match play.</span>
  • <span style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana">You must <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">mark</span> the position of the ball.</span>
  • <span style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana">You may then <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">lift the ball and identify it</span>, provided th</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana">at you give your fellow-competitor, or opponent, an <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">opportunity to observe the lifting</span> and the subsequent replacement.</span>
  • <span style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana">Note that the <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">ball must not be cleaned</span> beyond the extent necessary for identification when lifted under this Rule.</span>

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I still didn't see what happened with Simpson at 17 butitcan bewithin the rulesto touch or move your ball.</span></p>
 

fieldcorporal

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I believe the discussion was whether he was lying on top of an old, dirt-covered drain or sprinkler head. I thought he was sticking a tee in the ground to see if anything was buried. I was watching, and didn't see anything untoward.
 

goindhoo

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he drove it down the middle, then hit it in the bunker, then chipped up and two putted.

I'm not sure where on 17 he would have altered his lie.

You may be referring to 18. I never saw him touch the ball. He was checking the ground under the ball for a sprinkler. He never moved the ball from its resting place.
 

conceptDawg

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He and his caddy asked an official about the spot and they were both wondering if it was a sprinkler head (presumably so that they could get relief?). The rules official actually wasn't completely sure about the spot either so he is the one that told Simpson to push a tee into it to see if he could feel anything underneath. Simpson didn't move his ball at all. He just pushed a tee into the dead grass patch in front of the ball (there was a close up shot while he was doing this). Apparently he didn't feel anything and play resumed.