Did Stans outcoach Kennedy...

[snoopdog]

He made the adjustment to switch to zone to make Varnado effective and had Bost penetrate in the 2nd half, which brought us back. I feel good about this one. Top 25 win on the road in the SEC is great no matter who you beat. But this makes it sweeter being Ole Miss.

 

[snoopdog]

He made the adjustment to switch to zone to make Varnado effective and had Bost penetrate in the 2nd half, which brought us back. I feel good about this one. Top 25 win on the road in the SEC is great no matter who you beat. But this makes it sweeter being Ole Miss.

 

[BrandonAcctgDawg]

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[jbulldog]

there is no way AK gets outcoached by RS. The switch to the zone was something that AK had an immediate answer for...he just never told his players. Now, seriously, Rick coached what was one of his finest second halves in a while. Coaches have a heck of a life....win a game and the players won it but lose a game and the coach loses it. There is no way for a coach to come out on top! Today, for whatever reason, we won a big road game against our biggest rival and also against the team many believe is our toughest challenger for the SEC W.</p>

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...I would say Stansbury was very successful in doing that.

 

[cowboydawg]

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[markymark.sixpack]

while we're behind, then runs away and cries after the win. that little ***** is nowhere to be found right now.

 

[Coach34]

****, people bitching about me taking a nap now...amazing</p>

 

[crowbar]

Eat ****, coach 34!!!

 

[anon1751035439]

than Democrats do in Obama's success. And that's saying something.

 

[MSUCostanza]

is that you can whip out 50-60 posts in an hour when we lose a game. When we win, well, I think I saw 2 posts from you. It's obvious that you'd rather be right about Stansbury than see us win. You are a sad little man.

 

[Dawgbreeze]

He is meditating trying to figure how we coul run Rick off and then have a choice between Brady, Gottfried, Pelphrey, Kennedy, and Trent Johnson. Give him a break, he'll be back the minute we lose a game and Extreme, Fishwater, and the rest will follow along like little puppy dogs.

 

[Coach34]

for actually running a zone offense yesterday didnt you? Thats real progress. I was impressed

<span style="font-style: italic;">Editor's Note-Rule 18 violation.</span>

 

[whatever.sixpack]

And if there are all these coaches out there that are better, how come South Carolina, Georgia, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Auburn, Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas haven't found one.
I believe all of these schools have hired coaches (multiple coaches at some of these schools) since Stans began his tenure at MSU, yet none have found one that has lasted as long or been as successful. You've got to think that every one of those schools has at least the same draw (or in some cases better) and same resources that MSU does as a program to bring in a coach. But they still haven't found one, so that makes me think our chances aren't very good to get a better coach either. </p>

 

[msudawg12]

he defnitely outcoached the thumb

 

[ShrubDog]

Bost did what he was supposed too, take the ball to rack and get fouled. Bost outplayed the Rebels. Stanz still doesn't know when to call TO. I dont think he used 1 while we blew the 12 pt lead.

 

[Coach34]

And if there are all these coaches out there that are better, how come South Carolina, Georgia, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Auburn, Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas haven't found one.
I believe all of these schools have hired coaches (multiple coaches at some of these schools) since Stans began his tenure at MSU, yet none have found one that has lasted as long or been as successful. You've got to think that every one of those schools has at least the same draw (or in some cases better) and same resources that MSU does as a program to bring in a coach. But they still haven't found one, so that makes me think our chances aren't very good to get a better coach either.</p>

SC has a pretty good coach it seems. Curious to see how he does, not bad so far.
LSU has 3 SEC titles, a Final Four, and a Sweet 16 in the last 10 years- they seem to be doing ok
Vandy has a disadvantage in recruiting, yet has made a couplr of Sweet 16's- plus, they play Kentucky, Tenn, and Fla twice a year- we dont
Mississippi is averaging 20 wins a season under Kennedy- isnt that what you guys say Stansbury does? Kennedy needs to make the NCAA's this year though
Alabama has decent success under Gottfried, and they have made a solid hire I believe
UPig has got to eliminate the turmoil before their program can get better- no matter who coaches them
Auburn and Georgia suck

 

[whatever.sixpack]

And if there are all these coaches out there that are better, how come South Carolina, Georgia, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Auburn, Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas haven't found one.
I believe all of these schools have hired coaches (multiple coaches at some of these schools) since Stans began his tenure at MSU, yet none have found one that has lasted as long or been as successful. You've got to think that every one of those schools has at least the same draw (or in some cases better) and same resources that MSU does as a program to bring in a coach. But they still haven't found one, so that makes me think our chances aren't very good to get a better coach either.</p>

SC has a pretty good coach it seems. Curious to see how he does, not bad so far.
LSU has 3 SEC titles, a Final Four, and a Sweet 16 in the last 10 years- they seem to be doing ok
Vandy has a disadvantage in recruiting, yet has made a couplr of Sweet 16's- plus, they play Kentucky, Tenn, and Fla twice a year- we dont
Mississippi is averaging 20 wins a season under Kennedy- isnt that what you guys say Stansbury does? Kennedy needs to make the NCAA's this year though
Alabama has decent success under Gottfried, and they have made a solid hire I believe
UPig has got to eliminate the turmoil before their program can get better- no matter who coaches them
Auburn and Georgia suck

My point is that every school you just named has had an opportunity to hire a coach during Stans tenure, but not one of them has had a coach that I would take over him.
SC- New guy hasn't proven to be better than Stans, and Fogler and Odom had lower winning %'s than Stans
LSU- I'd take what we've done the last 10 years over them any day of the week. I wouldn't trade one good weekend for Stans overall record vs Brady's
Vandy- Stallings has had only TWO seasons w/ an SEC record better than .500, and never more than 10 wins in SEC play (UT and UF haven't been powers for that long) and don't mention academics, this isn't football where you have to find 25 players per yr/ Duke, Stanford, and plenty w/ the same standards recruit well
OM- Kennedy hasn't done anything to lead anyone to believe he'll be better than Stans
Arky- What excuse did you use? They out of everyone listed should have no excuses not to win consistently
Auburn and Georgia- Why should we automatically be better than them? B/c we have more tradition, resources, facilities, athletic budget, recruiting base? I can't come up w/ a reason

 

[Coach34]

say LSU hasnt done as well as we have?

They have 3 SEC titles to our 1. We have exactly 2 more conference wins than they do the last 10 years. A Sweet 16 season AND a Final Four season

 

[whatever.sixpack]

I'd take what we've done over what they've done during Stans tenure, I'd rather consistently be in the hunt.
Last 11 years: MSU- 96 conference wins/ LSU- 90 conference wins
MSU-3 losing records in SEC play/ LSU- 5 losing seasons in SEC play
MSU -6 NCAA appearances/ LSU- 5 NCAA appearances
MSU- 5 SEC West Titles/ LSU- 4 SEC West Titles
MSU- 2 SEC Tournament Titles/ LSU- 0 SEC Tournament Titles

We've had more consistent success and have been better in almost every single category outside of NCAA tourney play. Team success is not just defined by the NCAA tourney

 

[Coach34]

I'd take what we've done over what they've done during Stans tenure, I'd rather consistently be in the hunt.
Last 11 years: MSU- 96 conference wins/ LSU- 90 conference wins
MSU-3 losing records in SEC play/ LSU- 5 losing seasons in SEC play
MSU -6 NCAA appearances/ LSU- 5 NCAA appearances
MSU- 5 SEC West Titles/ LSU- 4 SEC West Titles
MSU- 2 SEC Tournament Titles/ LSU- 0 SEC Tournament Titles

We've had more consistent success and have been better in almost every single category outside of NCAA tourney play. Team success is not just defined by the NCAA tourney

LSU 3 SEC titles/ State 1

We have not been as successful as LSU the last 10-11 years. But we have been more consistent

 

[Stormrider81]

They could do so much more than they have. On the other hand, you've got MSU having to recruit its butt off to get players that aren't NBA players, and on the off chance they nab one good enough for the league from MS that player ends up entering the draft. There's no excuse for LSU not having done more, other than the fact that they had an idiot as coach.

 

[Seven Year Plan.nafoom]

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[MadDawg.sixpack]

and several of the pussies never showed back up after the win.

 

[KurtRambis4]

call Brady an "idiot," but it is really no surprise or that big of an accomplishment that he took a team with 2 NBA stars to a Final Four.

 

[MeridianDog]

He used a very good and successful second half zone-d against Oxford in their house, in front of their family and helped bring them down a peg or two in their first SEC game. He coached the dogs to a road-w in game #1 of a two game series that we really need to win to take the west. He has a nice wife and a competent set of ball retrieval kids and he likes to fish. He certainly has been faithful to MSU and as far as I know has never been arrested. Although I have no link to back this up, I bet his dog likes him, too. Of course, Thursday is a new day.

 

[JxnDawg39211]

Brady -

Big Baby - Boston Celtics
Tyrus Thomas - Chicago Bulls

Stansbury -

Jonathan Bender - never saw campus
Travis Outlaw - never saw campus
Monta Ellis - never saw campus
Renardo Sidney - saw campus ; never played

 

[whatever.sixpack]

So having a better SEC record, more NCAA tournament appearances, more SEC West Titles, and two more SEC tournament titles (which some people consider SEC titles) couldn't be considered more successful?

 

[GloryDawg]

I think Stans is where he wants to be and will be there as long as he wants. I think he will end his career at Miss State so everyone better get use to him. I am not a basketball guy and I don't know much about it but as a casual observer, we do win under him.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> That's what I care about.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> We seem to win more then anyone else in the West.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> That is saying something when you consider the amount of money some of these other schools can throw at a coach. I would be willing to bet that one day a sports facility or street on campus will be named after him.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>If he left, anyone else we hired would be using us as a stepping stone to another job.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> I say just get behind the buy and sooner or later it will all pan out. </p>

 

[o_riverdawg]

I believe it was Tasmin Mitchell who hit a buzzer beating three-pointer against Texas A&M in the second round of their Final Four tournament. If that shot doesn't go in, Brady doesn't sniff the Final Four. On the other hand, we lost to Butler in 2003 on a wild bank shot in the final 5 seconds. We win that game, who knows? I would have liked our chances the rest of the way. The NCAA tourney is oftentimes a crap shoot.

 

[Sutterkane]

I thought you said that only UK, UT, and UF were the tough teams in the SEC the last 10 years.

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

everybody knows that if one of your players hits a last-second desperation shot in the tourney you are a coaching genius. And if someone hits a last-second shot against you in the tourney it means you are a pathetic coach that only a sheep could support.

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