Didn't realize Berea College was a center for dumb 2021 style woke-ness ?

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Maybe one one side is offended and maybe one side thinks the other side is rather dangerous in its thoughts and leanings . Maybe its just you who sees the extremes . One thing is for sure , you seem to be taking some high road above each and there isn't any reason for it .

Could it be the right isn't offended at all by conversation , but with the accusations and censorship its harder for the right to even have a voice .. just a thought . The right has been ran off the largest social media platforms in the world , maybe that doesn't bother you .. it should ,m regardless of party . But you seem too cool for parties , you got it all figured out .

and both sides get offended when people who don’t think the world revolves around politics point that out.
 

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Serious and honest question for those that are acting too cool to talk politics and get annoyed at the discussion - at what point is it no longer politics?

The left is increasingly, through universities, targeting and dividing by race. It is also seeping down into grade schools. As I said earlier in this thread, culture is downstream of academia. So what happens when the fruits of this in our education system mature into the business and real world? Again, this isn’t confined to just Berea College.

Where will you draw the line? Discrimination in business?
Political dissenters denied business services?
Political persecution?

Honest question.
 

warrior-cat

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A free society does not allow censorship to speech just because someone is offended by it nor do they allow history to be destroyed because some of it was wrong. They learn from it and show just how far they have come. In this country there is a movement to overthrow everything for a new matrix if you will. This started during the Obama admin with his promise to fundamentally change America and he is succeeding. It seems that we must all now conform to what one side wants and shift inequality to make up for the past. In essence, pay for what our fore fathers did. The problem with this line of thinking is two fold: 1. Most of the ones being ask to give up their freedoms will fight strongly to keep them which means there could be a lot of blood shed if this keeps up. 2. Not all have families that were involved and how do you determine who is to pay reparations and give up there freedom if this comes to pass.

Some say that there could be another civil war, while others say that is not possible in America at our current stage of development. If the last few years of taking over cities without lawful intervention stopping it and the 6th of January taught us anything it is that it could start a new revolution that could morph into a civil war. Cooler heads must prevail and it cannot be that half of the nation decide what the whole nation does otherwise, we are doomed to continue being a free society.
 

cat_in_the_hat

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No government with a sovereign currency has ever defaulted. It's impossible. Default is not the risk. Inflation is the risk. When we talk about the money the government spends we should only be considered about how much inflation it is causing not how much debt we have. We're focused on the wrong thing and it leads to adverse outcomes.
Other than saying it's impossible for a government to default, you are basically making my point. Governments have limits on what they can do unless they are willing to destroy their economy.

Also, it's not impossible for governments to default. Take a look at South America where it has happened numerous times. True default is not the issue anyway. The issue is your idea of taxes and liabilities not being interrelated. Inflation (devaluation of the currency), is the product of printing money to pay debt, which you seem to acknowledge above. Governments can't simply create money to pay debt and maintain a healthy economy. There are very real limits on what a government can do unless it is comfortable with destroying its economy.
 

ManitouDan

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Nothing — nothing weaker or more spineless or more ignorant , than a person who says “ I don’t like politics , it doesn’t matter and refuses to engage “ .
 

SDC888

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No a business can default. The United States federal government can not default. They create the money the debt is owed in. There is a reason the Treasury yield is called the risk free rate. There is no risk that it will not be paid back. They don't have to tax you to spend. They can write spending into law without any taxes at all. In fact they have to spend money into existence for you to earn it and pay it back in taxes. They can pay off the entire debt today without taxing a cent. The Federal Reserve can just buy 100% of US Treasuries in existence.

Able to do something doesn't mean it's the wise thing to do. Anyone, yes any and everyone, who believes modern monetary theory simply doesn't understand money, doesn't have a clue.


No government with a sovereign currency has ever defaulted. It's impossible. Default is not the risk. Inflation is the risk. When we talk about the money the government spends we should only be considered about how much inflation it is causing not how much debt we have. We're focused on the wrong thing and it leads to adverse outcomes.

We do what you think we should do, we'll create adverse outcomes you couldn't even imagine....

that might be the goal.
 

IdaCat

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Cancel culture is real and stupid.

Conservative persecution complex is real and stupid.

That’s what I’ve learned in this thread.
Keep trying to downplay it. There's a lot more to liberal doctrine than Cancel Culture.

Identity Politics, Political Correctness, Victim Hierarchy, 1619 Project bastardization of education and history, Anti First and Second Amendment (Hell, Anti-Constitution), Wealth Redistribution disguised as social justice and "Science", Open Borders, Defund the Police, ... The list is endless.
 
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ManitouDan

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Basically why would it be surprising for a college to hold such a dialogue? If you feel one side (your side I assume) will be attacked and belittled, maybe you should go and defend you views. That is what makes this country. We do not all have to agree on everything. Yes we have extremes on both sides who won't even attempt to listen to anyone who they disagree with. But to define our country's enemies as "the liberals" is simply stupid. If you disagree with one how we should take care of each other (socialism, capitalism, free markets, etc), fine, we should all be able to voice our opinions.

FYI be proud of your daughter's service, as we all should. Because I choose not to bring up my 6 years or my fathers 32 years of service doesn't mean its not important to me. Just not relevant to me having an opinion.
You don’t want dialogue either . You are being obtuse and rude .
 
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cricket3

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Some say that there could be another civil war, while others say that is not possible in America at our current stage of development. If the last few years of taking over cities without lawful intervention stopping it and the 6th of January taught us anything it is that it could start a new revolution that could morph into a civil war. Cooler heads must prevail and it cannot be that half of the nation decide what the whole nation does otherwise, we are doomed to continue being a free society.

Your obsession with a second civil war is legitimately concerning.
 

uk_bill

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You don’t want dialogue either . You are being obtuse and rude .

Most certainly, since I advocated you defending your side, agreed your (as all should be) voice matters and stated it is acceptable not to agree with everyone over everything.

Rude AND obtuse.
 

warrior-cat

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Your obsession with a second civil war is legitimately concerning.
False. Your ignorance to what has been going on is more concerning. Did not say I want it, just said it is possible.
 
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cricket3

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False, your probably masturbate to the thought of shooting people that don’t agree with you.

You’re a psychopath and should have been banned long ago.

:uzi::chairshot::bomb::boom::fire:[banana] another civil war, Bring it on!
If it is liberals lives.....OK. Most liberals hate America so, that makes them un-american therefore, we would not be killing Americans but, our enemies. I'm good with that, that is what I trained for. This is one of my T shirts and should explain it to you.
Give me the first shot.
Some one complained earlier that we want a civil war to get rid of and be able to shoot liberals. I'd be alright wid dat.
Take no prisoners either. Shoot to kill, too much time and resources required to take care of them.
I am not opposed to thinning the herd with the thinning of the herd being the liberal element.
 
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warrior-cat

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False, your probably masturbate to the thought of shooting people that don’t agree with you.

You’re a psychopath and should have been banned long ago.
False on the banning.

Most of them were responses to others post about it.

But, when it comes right down to it, if you stalked me better you would know most of my postings are tongue in cheek.


Edited for time: a couple of those go back a few years. Not like it is an every week or month deal. Now that would constitute obsession, maybe.
 
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BeAllied

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Cable news is cancer. I don’t partake.

CNN, MSNBC, FOX, Newsmax and OANN are all symptoms of the same disease. Spoon feeding partisains lies and half truths that make them comfortable and/or angry in exchange for viewership.

All of the conservative(-leaning) cable news outlets can be named on one hand, and somehow they managed to outnumber the liberal networks in your example.

But why draw the line at cable news? What about newspapers and traditional broadcast news networks like NBC, CBS, and ABC? Where do you go for news if a major event is unfolding in real-time, and how did you determine that was your landing spot for independent, unbiased news?
 

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False on the banning.
One I believe was about the demonstrations and that if you were going to attack people physically inflicting harm you I had no problem with you being shot. Another was illegals crossing the border illegally and attacking border patrol and the security of the nation. Civil war was referenced a few times which does not constitute obsession. Your stalking does but, I do not worry about that.

But, when it comes right down to it, if you stalked me better you would know most of my postings are tongue in cheek.
Glad to know you're all of a sudden super funny tongue in cheek guy when someone reposts some of your insane thoughts. If you posted any of that **** on any other platform, you'd be banned. Fortunately for you I guess, the political thread has become the wild west over the last few years, and no mod wants to go near it or just nuke the thread entirely. And fortunately for all of us, while you're nuts, you're also all talk and won't do **** but continue to post about potential civil war and your freedoms being stripped away on a weekly basis. Psycho.
 

BeAllied

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No government with a sovereign currency has ever defaulted. It's impossible.

You must have a flexible definition of "default."

 

warrior-cat

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Glad to know you're all of a sudden super funny tongue in cheek guy when someone reposts some of your insane thoughts. If you posted any of that **** on any other platform, you'd be banned. Fortunately for you I guess, the political thread has become the wild west over the last few years, and no mod wants to go near it or just nuke the thread entirely. And fortunately for all of us, while you're nuts, you're also all talk and won't do **** but continue to post about potential civil war and your freedoms being stripped away on a weekly basis. Psycho.
I have actually said that before (tongue in cheek) but that's ok with me. We have a lot of people in these threads that could be considered Psyhco by todays definition including yourself and most of the other libs here.
 

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Cable news is cancer. I don’t partake.

CNN, MSNBC, FOX, Newsmax and OANN are all symptoms of the same disease. Spoon feeding partisains lies and half truths that make them comfortable and/or angry in exchange for viewership.
I will go further and say all news, cable or otherwise is that way nowadays.
 

MegaBlue05

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All of the conservative(-leaning) cable news outlets can be named on one hand, and somehow they managed to outnumber the liberal networks in your example.

But why draw the line at cable news? What about newspapers and traditional broadcast news networks like NBC, CBS, and ABC? Where do you go for news if a major event is unfolding in real-time, and how did you determine that was your landing spot for independent, unbiased news?

I get my print news from AP, Reuters, BBC

Avoid pundits from both sides outside of reading the occasional opinion piece. Avoid highly partisan new media like HuffPo, Mother Jones, Vox, Buzz Feed, Occupy Democrats, Brietbart, Daily Wire, etc.Double avoid social media “news”with suspicious URLs, no bylines, no sources and poorly written copy.

If it’s a regional event, local newspapers or local TV.

Where do you get your news?
 

BigSexyCat

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Serious and honest question for those that are acting too cool to talk politics and get annoyed at the discussion - at what point is it no longer politics?

The left is increasingly, through universities, targeting and dividing by race. It is also seeping down into grade schools. As I said earlier in this thread, culture is downstream of academia. So what happens when the fruits of this in our education system mature into the business and real world? Again, this isn’t confined to just Berea College.

Where will you draw the line? Discrimination in business?
Political dissenters denied business services?
Political persecution?

Honest question.

Reminds me of Al Qaeda and their push to institute islamic conformity or death. Now in is the country the extreme left and I'm talking about liberals, liberals defend freedom of speech, etc., want to institute those same kind of extremist views. Conform or die is what they're really saying.
 

BeAllied

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I get my print news from AP, Reuters, BBC

Avoid pundits from both sides outside of reading the occasional opinion piece. Avoid highly partisan new media like HuffPo, Mother Jones, Vox, Buzz Feed, Occupy Democrats, Brietbart, Daily Wire, etc.Double avoid social media “news”with suspicious URLs, no bylines, no sources and poorly written copy.

If it’s a regional event, local newspapers or local TV.

Where do you get your news?

Nancy Cox and Al-Jazeera.

You have a better method than most people, especially at avoiding punditry. The next step is determining if the source reports the full story and how they determine what is news-worthy, and what does and does not get reported?
 

warrior-cat

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Yelling snowflake after you've posted about wanting to shoot and kill fellow Americans and cheering on civil war is a strategy, I'll give you that.
As I said, tongue in cheek. Looking at how many after reflection I can admit there were more than I thought even though a few were 2 to 3 years ago. Can't remember everything I post. Over board? Perhaps. I thought some of those were referencing other subjects but, I was wrong. However, I really don't want a civil war but, I think it could happen if things continue on the current path.

OBTW: Yelling would require an exclamation point.
 

warrior-cat

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I only posted 6. There’s probably 30 more.
Unlikely however, there could be a few more. I have been reported before and banned before and did not disagree with the ban. Sometimes I can go a little over board admittedly but I make no excuses for it. Obsessed? No. A little crazy sometimes, yes.
 

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Black Muslims and regular brown Muslims on college campuses are the worst. They worship Louis Farrakhan and Jew-hating Democrats.
 
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ManitouDan

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I don't think I like the idea of this civil war thingy , R's tend to play by the rules and would be holding meetings and the D's would drop a nuclear bomb on our *** . Then laugh and brag that " they deserved it for being so damn mean "
 
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As I said, tongue in cheek. Looking at how many after reflection I can admit there were more than I thought even though a few were 2 to 3 years ago. Can't remember everything I post. Over board? Perhaps. I thought some of those were referencing other subjects but, I was wrong. However, I really don't want a civil war but, I think it could happen if things continue on the current path.

OBTW: Yelling would require an exclamation point.
Yeah, I think gleefully posting in your little safe space thread above that you'd like to shoot and kill other Americans is perhaps overboard. It's funny that you called us snowflakes then a half hour later, you're posting this and talking about reflection. You are who you are. Next week, you'll be in the political thread calling for liberals to die once again or you'll be in one of these cancel threads talking up civil war. That's your thing. You're the Paddock psycho.
 

warrior-cat

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Yeah, I think gleefully posting in your little safe space thread above that you'd like to shoot and kill other Americans is perhaps overboard. It's funny that you called us snowflakes then a half hour later, you're posting this and talking about reflection. You are who you are. Next week, you'll be in the political thread calling for liberals to die once again or you'll be in one of these cancel threads talking up civil war. That's your thing. You're the Paddock psycho.

I offer no excuses as I said before. I explained myself earlier in the first post on this page of my true feelings and it has been rejected. Most of the post copied were a couple of years ago. If you are triggered that's you. You have people on the left out there actually attacking people and destroying buildings and screaming kill the police, kill whitey, kill whoever and you are worried about a guy on the internet. That is the liberal way. Americans are killing Americans daily and the left seems to only worry about what is said on social media. You really have your priorities in order.
 

warrior-cat

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As I said before, this is how I really see it. Take it for what is or not:


A free society does not allow censorship to speech just because someone is offended by it nor do they allow history to be destroyed because some of it was wrong. They learn from it and show just how far they have come. In this country there is a movement to overthrow everything for a new matrix if you will. This started during the Obama admin with his promise to fundamentally change America and he is succeeding. It seems that we must all now conform to what one side wants and shift inequality to make up for the past. In essence, pay for what our fore fathers did. The problem with this line of thinking is two fold: 1. Most of the ones being ask to give up their freedoms will fight strongly to keep them which means there could be a lot of blood shed if this keeps up. 2. Not all have families that were involved and how do you determine who is to pay reparations and give up their freedom if this comes to pass.

Some say that there could be another civil war, while others say that is not possible in America at our current stage of development. If the last few years of taking over cities without lawful intervention stopping it and the 6th of January taught us anything it is that it could start a new revolution that could morph into a civil war. Cooler heads must prevail and it cannot be that half of the nation decide what the whole nation does otherwise, we are doomed to continue being a free society.