Dissent in Rowdy Land

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The rowdys need to recruit about 3-5 attractive women (even potentially strippers from the Pony....come on Cowbell9!!!!!!! We know that you have connections) and put them on the front row regardless of "points." Let the nerds who have accumulated the most points rub body paint on them as a reward. It would kind of be like the Chi-O's at MSU....85% nasty-***-homey-legacy types, 10% decent chicks, and 5% homecoming court material. Rowdies could spin this to make us all look better.

It is sad when we are on TV and my buddies from across the country start calling with the "Whooooaaaaa, easy on the cheeseburgers......" comments. Do us all a favor, make it happen.
 

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SignalDawg said:
Because most of what you just typed is wrong.
I am a student and NOT a Rowdy. I think this is retarded. Ya'll don't get any louder than any of the other students. Wig boy is terrible and getting on the camera during a timeout or something doesn't make you cool. As mentioned earlier, don't piss your pants and get mad when a mob of fraternity dudes, or anyone else for that matter, gets to your "tiered" seats before yall do and actually gets rowdy the right way. I'm fairly certain over half of yalls "club" joins just to get a silly tshirt.
 

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Cameron Crazies, the Den, etc, all use a point system for their seats. And I know what you are going to say, "We aren't them". Well I say why the 17 not? Why is it that Mississippi State can't have an organized basketball student group?

Only at Mississippi State dude.....only at State. Other fans calling a group of fans trying to organize a spirit group, nerds. That tells you all you need to know about the mentality of some.

Assuming what you say in your last two paragraphs are true. I would not even come on here and try to justify. You are backed by the University, coaches, and players.
 

MSUCostanza

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please for the love of Christ, stop putting the ugliest most humongous chicks on the front row for the TV cameras.
 

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...I arrived <span style="font-weight: bold;">AT LEAST</span> 4 hours early before every game. Sometimes we would walk over to baseball and softball to support them because there was no risk of our spot being taken. I am always there. I bring my chair and sit at the door. For the Ole Miss game I was out there at 4am, I brought food for the campers. Come to a game when the season starts, hit the student gate and talk to me. If have never missed a game unless it was out of my hands.

Have their been people that don't show up until tipoff and try to grab a floor seat? Absolutely. Thus the point system. Earn points and kick their asses to the back. If non-rowdies are showing up early, which they are, I've seen some non-rowdies early birds. Then why not join? These people clearly want to be there and cheer. Do they not want a t-shirt? Fine, wear white. I don't understand the aversion to a group the coaching staff and players want to see grow.

Students can join and change what they don't like, but instead they'd rather complain? Why?

...and the cheeseburger comment. Please, shallow-much?
 

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You said most of what i said is wrong, then wrote 5 paragraphs saying everything I said is correct, except I heard 200+, but apparently its 700+.

And get a clue dude, everyone on campus makes fun of Rick's Rowdies all the time, they are the joke of the university. SA makes fun of them, the basketball players make fun of them, Chemistry majors make fun of them, I wouldn't be surprised to hear ESPN make fun of them this year on TV. You talk about how everyone in the Hump should wear white to games, but are so clueless to the fact that Stans HATES when we white out the Hump.
 

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SignalDawg said:
Because most of what you just typed is wrong.

(Disclaimer, I am a rowdy and have been for a few seasons. I am not an officer)

The point of the tiered seating is to allow the people that actually show up to the games better seating. The problem with open seating is that some people charge down in front and just sit the whole time. I find it funny that SPS complains about the older folks who never stand and never cheer, but are so against a group who wants to get low on the court and get loud. For any students reading this if you have such a problem with it, then help spur change from within. Bitching from the outside and showing up in non state colors and not cheering is helping no one. Points are awarded by games attended and tiered seating WILL NOT START until the conference slate NEXT SEMESTER. (You know, when the majority of students actually decide to go to a game).

Cameron Crazies, the Den, etc, all use a point system for their seats. And I know what you are going to say, "We aren't them". Well I say why the 17 not? Why is it that Mississippi State can't have an organized basketball student group? If you actually show up to the games you will have nothing to worry about. As far as special Rowdy Points to friends: it was stated last night when everyone was assigned database numbers, everyone starts at 0. EVERYONE. Game support = points. It's pretty simple. They are looking into charter bus rates to shuttle large group of students to away games.

They are also working with the SA and the Athletic Department to make sure those sections are Rowdies only. Stans wants 700+ by the conference slate. We hit 375 sign ups as of last night. Whether most of those are the t-shirt grab and go crowd remains to be seen.

The coaches want it, the players want it. Jarvis talked about it last night. He wants huge support from the student body. Phil said last week the players brag about who gets their named chanted and who doesn't. If the players want it what the big deal? This season could be epic and I'd rather have a group down there that will lose their voice cheering than a group of indifferents texting on their blackberries.

- 2 cents
Good for you guys.

For the rest of the board....WTF? You guys are just too cool to be fun I guess.
 

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I think it is obvious that SignalDawg is either one of the ugly humongous chicks, or is dating one of them.
 

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bulldogka said:
SignalDawg said:
Because most of what you just typed is wrong.
I am a student and NOT a Rowdy. I think this is retarded. Ya'll don't get any louder than any of the other students. Wig boy is terrible and getting on the camera during a timeout or something doesn't make you cool. As mentioned earlier, don't piss your pants and get mad when a mob of fraternity dudes, or anyone else for that matter, gets to your "tiered" seats before yall do and actually gets rowdy the right way. I'm fairly certain over half of yalls "club" joins just to get a silly tshirt.
I have no problem with fraternity dudes, or any other student group. Loud is loud. I just want people to cheer. I don't give a damn about TV time or T-shirts.

I want trophies.
 

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fieldman said:
You said most of what i said is wrong, then wrote 5 paragraphs saying everything I said is correct, except I heard 200+, but apparently its 700+.

And get a clue dude, everyone on campus makes fun of Rick's Rowdies all the time, they are the joke of the university. SA makes fun of them, the basketball players make fun of them, Chemistry majors make fun of them, I wouldn't be surprised to hear ESPN make fun of them this year on TV. <span style="font-weight: bold;">You talk about how everyone in the Hump should wear white to games, but are so clueless to the fact that Stans HATES when we white out the Hump.</span>
That funny because the plan was to go back to Maroon this year and it was overruled by higher up.
 

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fieldman said:
You said most of what i said is wrong, then wrote 5 paragraphs saying everything I said is correct, except I heard 200+, but apparently its 700+.

And get a clue dude, <span style="font-weight: bold;">everyone on campus makes fun of Rick's Rowdies all the time</span>, they are the joke of the university. SA makes fun of them, the basketball players make fun of them, Chemistry majors make fun of them, I wouldn't be surprised to hear ESPN make fun of them this year on TV. You talk about how everyone in the Hump should wear white to games, but are so clueless to the fact that Stans HATES when we white out the Hump.
Do you actually care about being made fun of? I'm not so self-conscious.
 

J-Dawg

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makes you more of a fan? HA. I get mine during the day, when my schedule permits. I get there early enough to get dang good seats, but not in yalls section, because I don't want to be associated. I get as loud/louder than yall, and I don't look ridiculous. I also get to sit with some good looking chicks. I'm not complaining about what yall do, but this tiered point system is crazy. I'm going to get there early enough to sit right by wig boy and see if I can piss him off, just for laughs. Will yall boot me to the back if I'm not a member of your prestigeous club?
 

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I'm a married undergrad. 6+ years active army. Deployed to Afghanistan and stop-lossed to Iraq. Did a tour in Korea. I came back to State to finish my education.
 

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bulldogka said:
<span style="font-weight: bold;">makes you more of a fan? HA. I get mine during the day, when my schedule permits.</span> I get there early enough to get dang good seats, but not in yalls section, because I don't want to be associated. I get as loud/louder than yall, and I don't look ridiculous. I also get to sit with some good looking chicks. I'm not complaining about what yall do, but this tiered point system is crazy. I'm going to get there early enough to sit right by wig boy and see if I can piss him off, just for laughs. Will yall boot me to the back if I'm not a member of your prestigeous club?
Then you are not a student. Students no longer receive paper tickets. It's all scan and go since last season.
 

J-Dawg

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SignalDawg said:
bulldogka said:
SignalDawg said:
Because most of what you just typed is wrong.
I am a student and NOT a Rowdy. I think this is retarded. Ya'll don't get any louder than any of the other students. Wig boy is terrible and getting on the camera during a timeout or something doesn't make you cool. As mentioned earlier, don't piss your pants and get mad when a mob of fraternity dudes, or anyone else for that matter, gets to your "tiered" seats before yall do and actually gets rowdy the right way. I'm fairly certain over half of yalls "club" joins just to get a silly tshirt.
I have no problem with fraternity dudes, or any other student group. Loud is loud. I just want people to cheer. I don't give a damn about TV time or T-shirts.

I want trophies.
 

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bulldogka said:
SignalDawg said:
bulldogka said:
SignalDawg said:
Because most of what you just typed is wrong.
I am a student and NOT a Rowdy. I think this is retarded. Ya'll don't get any louder than any of the other students. Wig boy is terrible and getting on the camera during a timeout or something doesn't make you cool. As mentioned earlier, don't piss your pants and get mad when a mob of fraternity dudes, or anyone else for that matter, gets to your "tiered" seats before yall do and actually gets rowdy the right way. I'm fairly certain over half of yalls "club" joins just to get a silly tshirt.
I have no problem with fraternity dudes, or any other student group. Loud is loud. I just want people to cheer. I don't give a damn about TV time or T-shirts.

I want trophies.
Wordplay...bravo sir.
 

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SallyStansbury[/b]]It would kind of be like the Chi-O's at MSU....85% nasty-***-homey-legacy types, 10% decent chicks, and 5% homecoming court material.
I don't know what Chi-O's you have been looking at. They are about 75% super hot, 15% (id hit it), and 10% no way jose. You must have them mixed up with Zeta or something. Who by the way, also has plenty of girls I would not mind fornicating with.
 

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Have their been people that don't show up until tipoff and try to grab a floor seat? Absolutely. Thus the point system. Earn points and kick their asses to the back.
if you get there early enough, you get the best seat. this is the way to ensure that the people on the front are the people who care enough about their team to get there early. those are also the people who yell and stand the whole time - because they are excited about basketball.

you don't need a point system. all you're trying to do is make sure that you have seats for yourselves, regardless of what time you get to the game. it's simple - even if you're a "rowdy", get your *** to the game early enough or get your *** kicked back just like everyone else. i remember fighting this battle when the rowdies began. just because you have a weekly meeting that i don't care to go to doesn't mean you should get better seats than me.

i am not a student anymore, but the rick's rowdies' false sense of entitlement still pisses me off to no end.
 

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I didn't come up with the point system and I absolutely see your point. I don't see myself any more entitled than any other student. Regardless of points I will still be outside hours before, because I want to be. I enjoy it.

I guess I just don't see the point of being so against supporting the students who want to be there wether it's Kentucky or Western Kentucky. Bulldog club ratings go up the more you support the school through tickets and donations. Student seating priority will go up the more you attend. The rowdies are not a closed group. Anyone can join at any time.

While we are on the BC issue. Let's think about this. What if the Athletic Department / SA did start a student Bulldog Club, and part of it was more attendance (support) equals more priority on tickets. Would this still be an issue with you guys?

And to address the issue of non-rowdies coming early, they already spoke about that last night. The early people will probably get passes to go low as well, because they showed up. I don't make the rules people, but I do think there should be a reward system for those who participate.

You bring up "entitlement", but why should those students who only show up for OM and Kentucky get floors seats while the ones who have been there every game don't?
 

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fijiking said:
..I can't stand when people (our fans or not) talk **** and don't know anything about what they are talking **** about..br>

A sports message board might not be the place for you.
 

lawdawg02

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that's great and that's how it's supposed to be. i applaud you for that. i am not against the rowdies or any other group of athletic supporters.

what i am against is reserved seating for the rowdies. and i'll argue this all day.

You bring up "entitlement", but why should those students who only show up for OM and Kentucky get floors seats while the ones who have been there every game don't?
well, if you get there early enough, then they won't get the floor seats, right? ah, but the problem is that they get there earlier than you for the big games. solution? reserved seating down front for the rowdies. because you feel that you're entitled to sit down front.

other early people shouldn't have to "get passes" to sit down front. the ONLY THING that your "points system" and reserved seating will do is allow the rowdies to arrive later for home games and still get the best seats. and that's not right. whoever cares enough to get there early enough to get the floor seats should get those seats. that's the fairest way to do it.
 

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lawdawg02 said:
other early people shouldn't have to "get passes" to sit down front. the ONLY THING that your "points system" and reserved seating will do is allow the rowdies to arrive later for home games and still get the best seats. and that's not right. whoever cares enough to get there early enough to get the floor seats should get those seats. that's the fairest way to do it.
Point taken. As I take it this point system is all theory right now anyway. If it does start it will after the new year. Ideally they just want people to show up and be loud and supportive. There were situations last year were people came down to those seats just for the purpose of taking them from the Rowdies. Support of the guys was secondary. If the student body was as into it as some of the die-hards we wouldn't even have this issue or a need to try and build a group. <span style="font-weight: bold;">The Rowdies are trying to build the student body into one loud section. Not exclude. I can't say that enough.</span> More attendance = better seats = higher overall attendance numbers.

Here's another issue: when I went to the Tad Pad last year their open student seating allowed a bunch of us State Fans to get low into the student section near court. Who wants the visitors to have that much influence in a game? There are a number of issues closed seating would solve, but like anything it creates other problems. What would you do?

I don't want to argue about it, I just think having the right fans, <span style="font-style: italic;">regardless of who they are</span>, in the right place would do the most good.
 

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SignalDawg said:
While we are on the BC issue. Let's think about this. What if the Athletic Department / SA did start a student Bulldog Club, and part of it was more attendance (support) equals more priority on tickets. Would this still be an issue with you guys?
SA is starting the Bulldog Coalition (student bulldog club), which gives points for going to athletic events, except football games I believe, it gives students 1 Bulldog Club point for every 4 or 5 games they go to. It won't have anything to do with priority until they graduate, and I don't think most posters on here will have a problem with it because it is designed to increase athletic participation while they are students and after they graduate. It has nothing to do with making sure that the Wig man can get the best seat in the house without showing up early like the rest of the students.
 

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Here's another issue: when I went to the Tad Pad last year their open student seating allowed a bunch of us State Fans to get low into the student section near court. Who wants the visitors to have that much influence in a game? There are a number of issues closed seating would solve, but like anything it creates other problems. What would you do?

i know you're just using it as an example, but again, if the rowdies would just get there early enough to get the seats, then there is no need for reserved seating. i would leave the seating the way it has been - first come, first seated. we don't have the problem of visitors sitting low or people on the front row not cheering as it is, so why change it?

again, i applaud the rowdies' intentions. but you bring up another point:

<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">The Rowdies are trying to build the student body into one loud section. Not exclude. I can't say that enough.</span>
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if you're trying to get the entire student section into one loud section, wouldn't a better plan be to strategically place rowdies throughout the entire student section, so as to encourage cheering from as much of the section as possible? it seems to me that ensuring that you are sitting on the front rows does absolutely nothing to encourage the cheering of those seated in the upper sections. i know that there's only so much you can do, but maybe y'all come up with some way to spread the fun. when i saw the davis cup in paris, the french fans passed out sheets of paper with lyrics to cheers on them to everyone who walked in the stadium, some of them already determined when they would be recited (end of first set, etc). they even had one guy with a huge bass drum that would pop up in various sections and beat on the drum in between points. it was the best tennis environment i've ever seen. maybe the rowdies could spread out throughout the hump at various times and lead cheers. you may look like a nerd at first. but it would go more toward your goal than what you do now.

also, thank you sincerely for your service to this country.
 

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We did not have a CLUB called "Bob's Boys" or "Boyd's Boys" or some sort of sh*t when I was in school. .... How gay is this Rowdie group....
 

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because it pissed me the hell off...the rowdies are the biggest disgrace to MSU and everyone in that damn group is a total and complete loser at life. in my time as a student i was in a group of frat boys that used to get to the game early and indulge in a dozen or so alcoholic drinks and get on the front row and yell some of the meanest things you could ever imagine at the opposing team. the rowdies would come over to us countless times and say that we cant say things like that cuz its mean and la da da we're 17ing gay go state...im not saying im cool bc i got drunk and yelled cuss words at the away team but i was in college and it was fun and trust me they heard us and we got in their heads (on a side not i dont know why more people dont drink before bball games, its quite enjoyable)

rowdies your cheers are 17ing awful... the beauty of basketball is not coming up with gay little chants for your team its about destroying the opposing team because they are actually close enough to hear you...everyone cheers and gets loud for state so dont feel like youre the only ones doing ...if you want youre terrible *** club to be worth a damn start getting mean at the opponents instead of yay yay swat hes our man if he cant do it no one can or whatever tarrible **** you have come up with this year

i hate the rowdies more than anything
 
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Ill tell you one thing I get there really early for games. And I will not move for some ricks rowdy who has "points" I could care less. Not my organization not my problem. I will sit where I get there early enough to sit. And ya no t shirts to sporting events
 

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lawdawg02 said:
if you're trying to get the entire student section into one loud section, wouldn't a better plan be to strategically place rowdies throughout the entire student section so as to encourage cheering from as much of the section as possible?
In the works I'm told. Plus add in the two side split.

I'm done. Thanks for keeping a cool head. I don't have all the answers.