Do you still Support Pope?
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If I thought we had something to look forward to with a stellar class committed, then maybe. But even that looks like a total **** show now, and another year of portal sloppy seconds. So no. Cut bait and run.
There is a cancer on the team. Whoever that is, most likely Oweh, needs to be kicked off the team.
I don't support Pope right now.
I do support the rest of the players. I don't like Oweh anymore based off his consistent selfish, me me attitude and bad body language.
I’ve already been through a lot of ups and downs in my feelings on him. I didn’t think he was qualified enough when people started suggesting him last year and thought we settled after the search made it past Drew when we hired him. Dang it if that press conference and the early wins over Duke and Gonzaga didn’t have me thinking my gut reaction had been wrong though. Even the final result of the season was ok with me even if a few of the losses look like warning signs in hindsight. We played a fun style and went further with our last minute roster than most expected.
This season has been inexcusable though. A full offseason and reportedly one of the highest NIL budgets around to build a team coming off what seemed like momentum of a successful first season, and he not only built a team that struggles to stay within 20 points of good competition, but he seems to be totally lost and unable to come up with any answers for improvement. I voted no, but he could win me back over. My heart still wants him to succeed, but my head knows what it’s seeing right now.
This season has been inexcusable though. A full offseason and reportedly one of the highest NIL budgets around to build a team coming off what seemed like momentum of a successful first season, and he not only built a team that struggles to stay within 20 points of good competition, but he seems to be totally lost and unable to come up with any answers for improvement. I voted no, but he could win me back over. My heart still wants him to succeed, but my head knows what it’s seeing right now.
At this point it’s getting hard to imagine what else could possibly be making us all look so disconnected and shell-shocked.
I’d love to see an epic battle between Kenny Payne and Pope for who sucks worse.
Can’t defend the indefensible. I support the man, but he couldn’t get his team to play with any fire whatsoever, in a game they had to win to have any hope of turning things around. He’s lost the team.
Everyone who said Dan Hurley was a total ******* and never wanted him.
I bet all of you would take him right now.
All top coaches are azzholes.
Pitino
Saban
Urban Meyer
Cal
Coach K
Roy Williams
Dan Hurley
Bruce Pearl
Nate Oates
etc.
I bet all of you would take him right now.
All top coaches are azzholes.
Pitino
Saban
Urban Meyer
Cal
Coach K
Roy Williams
Dan Hurley
Bruce Pearl
Nate Oates
etc.
cmon man. I know we’re upset, but Payne won 12 games in 2 seasons. Pope got a 3 seed last year. Lol
I would eat glass if we got Billy Donovan or Nate oats tomorrow
I’m kinda questioning wether those guys just likes each other so much they could play without a coaching staff now.
Yet this option still presents Pope in a negative light because he is still the coach, is he not? If he has a few bad apples, bench them. If it's Oweh, bench him. If it's Johnson, bench him. Pitino was willing to lose with guys who listened to him in a tournament game than potentially win guys who didn't last year, so much so that he benched his star RJ Luis.
Pope doesn't have that in him, and that's precisely why he shouldn't be here another year. He's letting the bad apples dictate the mood of the team. That's poison.
I dont disagree. I guess im trying to find an avenue where this year is just an abberation for him.. but it doesn't seem likely.
I don’t know why you keep saying he’s coming back, especially if he has a losing season. If fans are as p*ssed off as they were shown tonight, how do you imagine the guys who are paying for this must feel? The fans, the media, former players are all coming out negatively towards this coaching tenure. Another year will make Pope and Mitch the Nico Harrisons of Lexington and the state of Kentucky.
Pope doesn’t come back with a losing record. I thought an NIT might screw him over, but a losing record solidifies it and with every loss to a half-decent team it looks like an inevitability barring a miracle at this point.
Well, apparently I’m gonna have to start providing disclaimers on my posts since I get people @ing me over my opinions.
Disclaimer: THIS IS MY OPINION. I HAVE NO HAND IN DECIDING WHETHER POPE IS RETAINED OR NOT
With that in mind, we just dropped nuclear bags to move on from Stoops. That already puts you in a bind. Also, anyone judging fairly can see this year looks nothing like last year. So, my guess is the athletic department is not going to let the coach go for a bad year this year if last year showed promise and overachieved. Those are just my opinions. I don’t speak on behalf of the university and I’m too depressed to argue over menial things atm, so if you were asking in a rhetorical fashion, so be it. If you were asking genuinely what my thoughts are, there they are.
Boosters will be the one footing the bill here. If they’re livid after the $20 million, they’ll gladly raise whatever it takes to get Pope to leave. But I have a feeling boosters and friends will be encouraged him to step down on his own. No big recruits coming next year and probably looking at replacing most of the team won’t make many people willing to extend this disaster longer than it has to be, imo.
Some times a good employee is promoted but finds the next level over their head. We have that here.
I think the reason he might only last 2 years is because he has no equity built up. You can have a few down years if youre like Cal because you won a bunch of final 4s and be the most successful program over a 5 or 6 year stretch (well, you should be fine). He built himself a runway. Pope doesnt have that at all. And his coaching is so bad its really making people wonder "was this a total disaster hire?" .. and if it is, you have to cut bait and fast.
This cant be a "let's give him 3 or 4 years to go going. You sharpen your knives one someone's else's time, then you come here to coach.
This cant be a "let's give him 3 or 4 years to go going. You sharpen your knives one someone's else's time, then you come here to coach.
Even when Cal was slipping, you had that thought that he could excel at any time or tournament. I don’t think anyone feels that way about Pope.
Come back to me once we’re a ways into SEC play. He’s not getting fired during the season short of something off the court. He’s not getting fired after the season unless we are missing the tourney. Even then I question whether they would do it.
It’s early enough in the season that I’m still willing to give him the chance.
It’s early enough in the season that I’m still willing to give him the chance.