Do you still wear a mask?

Have you stopped wearing a mask?


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American Dragon

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Not defending far right extremists and I'm certainly not one. It has unfortunately become a trait of the mainstream left.

Using extreme fringe right wingers, of which there are very few, to justify what is now mainstream left is a terrible and weak stance to take. In the words of AOC, do better...
If the far left was the mainstream of the left, easily the closest to the center of all the people who were running for the Democratic nomination, Joe Biden, wouldn’t have been the runaway pick to be the Democratic nominee for President nor would Nancy Pelosi still be Speaker of the House. Nice try though.

But if the far right is a fringe portion of the Republican Party, why is it that the vast majority of the GOP was in support of the fraudulent and anti-democratic #StopTheSteal campaign?
 

SDC8888

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If only these brainwashed leftist lunatics would realize what's happening today is history rhyming, and they're the ones doing it.

Stupid leftists are living in a delusional present, thinking it's the past. How about we live in the here and now.

Only reason that total POS was their candidate is because all the lunatic fringe candidates sans Bernie dropped out after being promised they'd still get positions or aspects of their agenda through.
 

Bigblue2023

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If the far left was the mainstream of the left, easily the closest to the center of all the people who were running for the Democratic nomination, Joe Biden, wouldn’t have been the runaway pick to be the Democratic nominee for President nor would Nancy Pelosi still be Speaker of the House. Nice try though.

But if the far right is a fringe portion of the Republican Party, why is it that the vast majority of the GOP was in support of the fraudulent and anti-democratic #StopTheSteal campaign?
You just proved my point while being too stupid to realize it. Joe Biden was the closest to center, which shows how completely unhinged your party has become. Thank you for making that so easy.
 

PhDcat2018

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Because I’m not a selfish person who only cares about myself. I care about the well-being of others and there are millions who aren’t eligible to get vaccinated that are put in harms way by people who refuse to get vaccinated.
Wearing a mask doesn't do anything though. It just doesn't. There's so much evidence worldwide. All it does is make a person(usually a leftist) seem "superior" or "caring." That's all a mask does.
Sorry, I don’t live on Rivals. I actually have a life and do something with it instead of wasting it away rotting my brain on the internet to “own the libs.”
Another typical lib response. Just an insult.
 

American Dragon

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Lol, link?
Easy

 

bucsrule8872

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Fully vaccinated. Don’t wear a mask unless I am told to by authorities (I’m a teacher, so if the school system or government decides we wear masks, I will have to).

My stance on all this is that I got the vaccine because I thought it was best for me and my family. But I understand if you don’t want to. I am protected (as best as I can be), so what you do is your own business.

But the government needs to stay out of it and quit trying to control people through scare tactics and incentives and mandates. Let’s get back to normal.

Adults who want the shot, have taken the shot. Everyone has had their opportunity.

The unvaccinated can take their chances and wear a mask or not.

Time to move on to something else.
 

Gassy_Knowls

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Easy


Guy, can you link non-biased links?

There have been 74 studies about mask efficacy. They all said mask don't work.

Give it up, coronabro. You get your info from globalist propaganda, but whatever.
 

Gassy_Knowls

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Easy


Here's 65...

https://principia-scientific.com/65-studies-reveals-face-masks-do-cause-physical-harm/
 

SDC8888

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"Once a particle is not on a biological surface it is no longer a biomedical issue, it is simply about physics. The public has only a partial view of the story if information only comes from one type of source. Medics have some of the answers but not a whole view."


Dr Axon, Brunel University's senior lecturer in engineering, said that the true mechanisms involved are best evaluated through science.


"When the particle enters another body it returns to a biomedical issue but the mask debate is about the particle journey," he said.


"Masks can catch droplets and sputum from a cough but what is important is that SARS CoV-2 is predominantly distributed by tiny aerosols."

Dr Axon said that medics were "unable to comprehend" the miniscule elements at play, adding: "A Covid viral particle is around 100 nanometres, material gaps in blue surgical masks are up to 1,000 times that size, cloth mask gaps can be 5,000 times the size."


Dr Axon, whose report on ventilation in supermarkets was used by both Nervtag and Sage to aid decisions, says that medics "cannot have it both ways" over asymptomatic spread.


He added: "Not everyone carrying Covid is coughing, but they are still breathing, those aerosols escape masks and will render the mask ineffective."


Droplets from coughs are much larger, and more likely to be stopped by a properly used mask, Dr Axon says. An Oxford study last summer concluded that masks were "effective" in reducing the spread of the virus.

'We are entrenching bad behaviour'


However, other studies have cast doubt on their effectiveness. A subsequent Danish study involving 6,000 people concluded that there was no statistical difference in infection spread in non-wearers, while data on US states with non-mandated usage failed to show a correlated uptick in cases.


"The public were demanding something must be done, they got masks, it is just a comfort blanket," Dr Axon noted. "But now it is entrenched, and we are entrenching bad behaviour.


"All around the world you can look at mask mandates and superimpose on infection rates, you cannot see that mask mandates made any effect whatsoever.


"The best thing you can say about any mask is that any positive effect they do have is too small to be measured."
 

CastleRubric

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On Friday my company announced that both the vaccinated and non vaccinated were required to go back to wearing masks indoors and also “while on base “

so i’m going to see how this is actually looking when i go in on wednesday
 
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CastleRubric

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i’d add the commentary reminding everyone that CDC allows dual death certificate instances. to count as a COVID death instance


So you truly can have someone who died in a car wreck counted as a “COVID death” as long as they were logged as a case previously- or a suspected case - or an assumed case

so - that paper headline isn’t as clear cut and meaningful as it seems

nothing has been with this whole $hitshow
 

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When I saw the thread title, I was just gonna say, that i’d taken it off, and I threw it away. But the more I delved in, and starting reading posts, it was clear this subject, was divisive for most. So I’d check in, and continue to read, and as the thread wandered, it was easy to see. It’s a political thread, created by Andy, the results would be documented, later coming in handy. The next election, is coming up soon, so to get a leg up, best to prepare your platoon. See the virus has took, such a terrible toll, and it’s never too early, for starting a poll. So for all the respondents, you’ve done a great deed, and for all politicians, you may $&”/$@?! Proceed.
 

CastleRubric

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However, the vaccinated have far less likely chance of spreading it because they are far less likely to get it. There’s a reason why we’ll over 90% of the confirmed cases and deaths the last few months have been from the unvaccinated or only partially vaccinated, and frankly being partially vaccinated is only marginally better at best than being unvaccinated.


What data do we reference that supports the “far less likely “ claims ?

i know some data is coming in from field sites

but nothing like longitudinal data exists on what’s happening right now - this is an unprecedented


when i check out the messaging on most media outlets it all seems like a political campaign as opposed to a scientific study or disciplined public health response


not picking on you -
you may have some data that supports the “far less likely “ claim - i just don’t understand how we can know that with certainty yet

and i’ve heard a lot of bizarrely specific statements like that - usually from politicians behind a mic


its been a while since i’ve scoured for good info as well so i’ll do a little more homework and try to post something helpful later too -
 

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Please help everyone...

I went to the Foo Fighters concert in downtown Cincy last Wednesday and stood nuts to butts with about 9000 people with no masks. Then I went to the FC Cincy game last night at a sold out stadium. I was horrified to notice that again, not a soul in the place was wearing a mask including myself. I was feeling so guilty about my selfish and reckless behavior of the past week I went out to brunch and to a local park with my family this afternoon. Again couldn't find a mask in sight. Ashamed to admit I actually had fun.

How long do I now have to live? How many people have I potentially murdered?

PS: I've been fully vaccinated since April. Does this have anything to do with my survival chances? TIA
 

American Dragon

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What data do we reference that supports the “far less likely “ claims ?

i know some data is coming in from field sites

but nothing like longitudinal data exists on what’s happening right now - this is an unprecedented


when i check out the messaging on most media outlets it all seems like a political campaign as opposed to a scientific study or disciplined public health response


not picking on you -
you may have some data that supports the “far less likely “ claim - i just don’t understand how we can know that with certainty yet

and i’ve heard a lot of bizarrely specific statements like that - usually from politicians behind a mic


its been a while since i’ve scoured for good info as well so i’ll do a little more homework and try to post something helpful later too -
Well my data is the data that shows over 90% of confirmed cases and deaths are from the unvaccinated. Now I didn’t say all cases, I said confirmed.

Such as the below from the AP.

 
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Gassy_Knowls

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Well my data is the data that shows over 90% of confirmed cases and deaths are from the unvaccinated. Now I didn’t say all cases, I said confirmed.

Such as the below from the AP.


Not even remotely accurate information. Not sure how anyone could trust the MSM "data" at this point.

AP news. Lol smh. Unless you are a sock account, I'd be mindful of discussing liberal "data" with Castle Rubic.
 

PhDcat2018

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Please help everyone...

I went to the Foo Fighters concert in downtown Cincy last Wednesday and stood nuts to butts with about 9000 people with no masks. Then I went to the FC Cincy game last night at a sold out stadium. I was horrified to notice that again, not a soul in the place was wearing a mask including myself. I was feeling so guilty about my selfish and reckless behavior of the past week I went out to brunch and to a local park with my family this afternoon. Again couldn't find a mask in sight. Ashamed to admit I actually had fun.

How long do I now have to live? How many people have I potentially murdered?

PS: I've been fully vaccinated since April. Does this have anything to do with my survival chances? TIA
Sounds like a great time!
 

BourbonBalz

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I’ve never worn one anywhere except to the doctor’s office and only then because I don’t have a choice.
 
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CastleRubric

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Well my data is the data that shows over 90% of confirmed cases and deaths are from the unvaccinated. Now I didn’t say all cases, I said confirmed.

Such as the below from the AP.



thank you for posting that -

the basis for their attention grabbing headline sits upon a very narrow slice of data - taken incredibly early in the lifecycle of this effort -

this is a late june article you have.... so their statement regarding mortality is based on rapidly changing bio statistical data across multiple world zones featuring at least 5 different products that are going into many many Millions of people - via an already expanding schedule of “required” booster shots -

i can’t actually see their quantitative data so i can’t comment on that aspect - was it their own? Did they download only select portions of data from external sources?

and unfortunately it appears we’re continuing to learn more about the makeup and design of the products themselves - but that’s for later

If IS good you found a reasonably optimistic review that describes the current phase of this effort but i’m continuing to assert that a) The data analysis on this is Just starting - and data we have includes padded prevalence/death counts and admissions of ineffective test methods and materials b) there are still SHOCKINGLY high records of harm stemming from the untested (and first ever mass deployed) genetic therapy based injection.:::the EU has their version done of VAERS (data fm 27 nations) - and by early july they’ve recorded approx 17,000 deaths and 1. people million injuries (half of those considered severe).....

i’ll stop there t avoid rambling but the hope you see how your article misses the scope you f this event AND ignores very significant data ?


China has two new vaccines entering the whole abomination -

both are the more traditional “LAV” based types - targeted for latin america (shipped in May) and asia

of course no data was a available and they just obtained emergency approval release i think earlier this year


China ,Russia , US and France (?) have all been doing this same appalling rushed field vaccine deployment for Ebola

Just offstage Africa is cooking up the two largest ever Ebola outbreaks - started around 2016 IIRC and is Ebola-Zaire strain - at some point you’d think we’d see BETTER Ebola management THAT close to ‘western’ based infectious disease research and security facilities

So ideally WHO and prob UNIFEF / Red Crescent plus the Weather USAMRID types there .::would make sure to that nasty **** gets tamed


in good candor!
let’s talk again if you want
 
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FUMods

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Some real interesting data:

www.worldometers.info

COVID-19 Weekly Trends by Country - Worldometer

New cases and deaths in the last 7 days vs. the preceding week. Absolute and percentage change, weekly cases and deaths per million people in every country in the world
www.worldometers.info
www.worldometers.info

Deaths in the last 7 days per millions population: ZERO in both Sweden and Norway (why aren't the Swedes all dead???).

In the same time, the US had 7 deaths... but yeah... lets crash a $22T economy... again. The fearporn the media is spreading is an absolute fvcking joke.