Do you think Manning will be able to pick apart Seattle's D?...

[dawgstudent]

1. A lot of San Fran's success was with Kapernick's feet. Manning doesn't have that luxury.
2. Right now, I might have a stronger arm than Peyton. Some of those throws yesterday took 25 seconds to reach the sidelines. I know he has incorporated more short throws for the lack of arm strength but with Seattle's D - it will be interesting to watch.

I just see this ending ugly for Denver if they can't get their running game going.

 

[msstate7]

I think for Denver to win this game they're gonna need welker to knock out Sherman like he did Talib. Sherman will keep Thomas in check and Seattle' db depth will match Denver's depth at wr. Seattle is gonna rough up Denver IMO...

Seattle 31
Denver 20

 

[boatsandhoes]

nope, they'll put Sherman on Demarius (sp?) Thomas. They'll put KJ on Julius Thomas, and if KJ can cover Jimmy Graham then he can cover thomas.

It'll depend on Seattle's 2nd corner, and who wins with he and Decker. If they can't run it they may be in trouble. I think Seattle will shred Denver with Marshawn Lynch, and play action off that. You never know though. Russell Wilson hasn't turned it over, but he could in the super bowl. Depends on how he handles it.

 

[GratefulDawg.sixpack]

You guys are nuts.

Manning still has plenty of strength in that arm. You've missed some of the deep throw TDs he had late in the season.

The clown Sherman may take on DT, but that still leaves Julius, Decker, Welker and Moreno for Seattle to cover. Big task there and Manning will find gaps.

Denver's D is playing their best football right now, and their strength is stopping the run. Wilson is no world beater.

As long as Denver doesn't turn the ball over, they will win.

 

[OzarkaNSW]

Demaryius is gonna boss so hard on Richard Sherman...

1. A lot of San Fran's success was with Kapernick's feet. Manning doesn't have that luxury.
2. Right now, I might have a stronger arm than Peyton. Some of those throws yesterday took 25 seconds to reach the sidelines. I know he has incorporated more short throws for the lack of arm strength but with Seattle's D - it will be interesting to watch.

I just see this ending ugly for Denver if they can't get their running game going.

nm

 

[coach66]

Peyton comes up short again. I think Seattle's D and their running game will

be the difference.

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

I like the Broncos, too many offensive weapons including one of the best OL in the Nfl.

 

[klong-dog]

Nah, it won't come easy for Peyton and company. Seattle is too strong on both sides of the ball. 30-23 Seattle.

 

[haildearoldstate]

The League's no. 1 offense vs the league's no. 1 defense......Gotta go with the

defense..........Seattle is just too physical for Denver IMO..........

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I think Peyton gets sacked 5 or 6 times. The question mark is if Seattle can score. Their offense is pretty shaky at times.

31-17 Seattle

 

[treeddeep]

nope, they'll put Sherman on Demarius (sp?) Thomas. They'll put KJ on Julius Thomas, and if KJ can cover Jimmy Graham then he can cover thomas.

It'll depend on Seattle's 2nd corner, and who wins with he and Decker. If they can't run it they may be in trouble. I think Seattle will shred Denver with Marshawn Lynch, and play action off that. You never know though. Russell Wilson hasn't turned it over, but he could in the super bowl. Depends on how he handles it.

He fumbled last night and make some absolutely awful throws. I just don't see Denver losing this game.

 

[msstate7]

He fumbled last night and make some absolutely awful throws. I just don't see Denver losing this game.

That was against a defense much better than Denver's. Peyton got away with a few too IMO

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Gee Wizz

You guys are nuts.

Manning still has plenty of strength in that arm. You've missed some of the deep throw TDs he had late in the season.

The clown Sherman may take on DT, but that still leaves Julius, Decker, Welker and Moreno for Seattle to cover. Big task there and Manning will find gaps.

Denver's D is playing their best football right now, and their strength is stopping the run. Wilson is no world beater.

As long as Denver doesn't turn the ball over, they will win.

I agree with you!

Payton makes short throws to supplement the running game. In some cases, it is the running game.
If you don't think he has plenty of arm strength, we must be watching different games.

Does this translate into a SB win?, I have no Idea, but you don't get this far, being a weak sister.

 

[Philly Dawg]

I'd take into consideration the vast difference between Seattle on the road and Seattle at home this year.

 

[msstate7]

I'd take into consideration the vast difference between Seattle on the road and Seattle at home this year.

6-2 road (wins of note: at Carolina, at NYG; losses were both playoff teams -- Indy & sf)

7-1 home regular season & 2-0 in playoff

Denver has same records home and away

 

[klong-dog]

He fumbled last night and make some absolutely awful throws. I just don't see Denver losing this game.

Peyton got away with some awful throws. There were at least 2 or 3 throws that should have been picked but weren't. Seattle will make him pay. They will be the most physical team Denver has seen and the lengthiest team they've seen this year.

 

[KurtRambis4]

I wouldn't

necessarily say the win on the road v the giants was notable.

 

[msstate7]

necessarily say the win on the road v the giants was notable.

Super Bowl is there. Both teams won there

 

[KurtRambis4]

Yeah I

realize that. I'm just saying that the Seahawks beating a terrible NYG team isn't really notable and doesn't do much to dispel the notion that they're bad on the road (if one believed that).

 

[msstate7]

The Seahawks were 6-2 on road this year. They lost 34-28 at Indy and 19-17 at sf. Those are hardly bad losses. I think the Seahawks being a bad road team is a myth. (Realize you didnt say they were)

 

[Dawg1976]

I agree with you!

Payton makes short throws to supplement the running game. In some cases, it is the running game.
If you don't think he has plenty of arm strength, we must be watching different games.

Does this translate into a SB win?, I have no Idea, but you don't get this far, being a weak sister.

I also agree. The short passes will supplement the running game. Denver should score plenty and I can't see Wilson beating Denver.

If the weather is horrible as in a lot of wind, Peyton could have problems. If its not much of a factor, Denver win 27-20.

 

[rem101]

Peyton got away with some awful throws. There were at least 2 or 3 throws that should have been picked but weren't. Seattle will make him pay. They will be the most physical team Denver has seen and the lengthiest team they've seen this year.

I agree with this statement, but they better hope the refs "let them play" or they are in big trouble. If they call the real touchy penalties, the Seattle D could give up lots of penalty yards.

 

[dogfan96]

It's not about arm strength. It's about timing. Those passes to the sideline weren't lasers but they were already more than halfway there when the receiver came out of his break. That's damn near impossible to defend if you're playing man coverage. Plus Denver's receivers (with the exception of Welker) are big and physical and won't be intimidated by Seattle's DBs. Demaryius Thomas is no Michael Crabtree.
And if you watch Broncos football, they run the ball pretty well when they decide to and they use their short passing game as part of their running game. Peyton is perfectly content to hit Moreno out of the backfield for 3-4 yards to stay on schedule with down/distance. They lull you to sleep with execution in in the short/intermediate passing game, then they go over the top with Thomas or Decker. Sherman is great, but Denver's #2 and #3 WRs are better than Seattle's #2 and #3 corners and Julius Thomas is a matchup nightmare. He can play in-line, the slot, or out wide.
Seattle doesn't have enough offense. For all the talk about Denver's defense, they haven't given up 20 points in 5 weeks, and the Chargers and Patriots both have more explosive offense talent than Seattle. Lynch won't be enough. Russell Wilson is gonna have to make some plays in the passing game.

 

[msstate7]

The Seahawks shut down jimmy graham twice. Jimmy >> J. Thomas

Also they shut down jimmy with kj first time. Kj wasn't available second time, but they shut jimmy down anyway. Seattle's defensive backfield is very deep and very good.

 

[dogfan96]

Because they could key on Jimmy Graham.. they can't key on Julius Thomas..

NO's WR group isn't in the same galaxy as Denver's

 

[msstate7]

Really...not even close huh?

Denver passing yards -- 5572
NO passing yards -- 5162

NO faced Seattle 2 times (#1 in nfl pass defense), Carolina 2 times (#6 in nfl pass defense) & sf (#7 in nfl pass def)

Denver faced oak 2 times, sd 2 times, and kc 2 times (none of which rank higher than 25th in pass def)

 

[BulldogBlitz]

if he does pick them apart, i hope he does a sherman interview. it'd be a great way to go out.

 

[dogfan96]

Nope not close...

Their two top targets (in terms of receptions) were Graham and Pierre Thomas (and Sproles was 4th). That's the TE and 2 RBs. Their top WR was Colston. Denver had 2 WRs that exceeded Colston's production and Welker and Julius Thomas weren't far behind him. So yeah, the Saints WR group isn't even close to the same galaxy as Denver's.

 

[FallAmericanDawg]

Seattle's defense

If I remember correctly, every time the league's #1 defense appeared in the Super Bowl, they won. As much as I want Peyton to win another ring, I just don't think it will happen against that defense. Call Sherman a clown or whatever, but you can't deny that he is the best corner in the game. Pair him with Byron Maxwell at corner, with Chancellor and Thomas at safety, and that is an absolutely SCARY secondary. They're aggressive yet conservative... don't blitz a ton but the coverage is the tightest I've seen in the league. Defense wins championships. Seahawks win

 

[msstate7]

Their two top targets (in terms of receptions) were Graham and Pierre Thomas (and Sproles was 4th). That's the TE and 2 RBs. Their top WR was Colston. Denver had 2 WRs that exceeded Colston's production and Welker and Julius Thomas weren't far behind him. So yeah, the Saints WR group isn't even close to the same galaxy as Denver's.

Denver faced 2 teams this year in the top 10 in pass defense:

NYG #10
Houston #3

I'm not saying Seattle will shut them down completely, but this will be the best defense Denver has seen this year by far.

And I know that this is the best offense Seattle has seen, but not the best team. SF is a better team than Denver. This is the NFC's year...

 

[dogfan96]

It's absolutely the best team Seattle will face.. Denver's defense isn't as good as SF's but their offense is WAY better and in this NFL, it's better to have a great offense than a great defense. No team in the NFL can hold Denver below 20 points unless weather is a factor (and no, cold isn't weather... Denver gave the Titans 50 points in 10 degree weather). And the past 2 weeks they've shown they can win with ball control and defense (and San Diego's offensive personnel is better than Seattle's).

 

[RocketDawg]

Yes, I think he will. He's that good. And Seattle has a young QB -- might be a bit nervous. He seemed to be at the start of the SF game.

I think Denver wins.

 

[msstate7]

Seattle 31
Denver 20

Peyton throws 2 costly int's.

Gonna be a fun Super Bowl to watch

 

[parabrave]

The Seahawks shut down jimmy graham twice. Jimmy >> J. Thomas

Also they shut down jimmy with kj first time. Kj wasn't available second time, but they shut jimmy down anyway. Seattle's defensive backfield is very deep and very good.

It's not going to be about the passing this game as much as it will be the run game. If NO hadn't abandoned the run game in the 3rd QTR they would be here instead. Peyton needs to get out of his own way, like Brees should've and run to the right side of Seattle's defense.

 

[dogfan96]

Without a special teams or defensive TD, no way Seattle scores 31.. their offense is only above average on most Sundays

 

[dogfan96]

And if they have the numbers advantage in the box, he'll do just that, which in turn sets up your play action down the field passing game.

 

[msstate7]

NO's WR group isn't in the same galaxy as Denver's

Bump

 

[msstate7]

Bump this thread

 

[klong-dog]

Bump, bumpty, bump.

 

[haildearoldstate]

Paging Philly Dog........I told you Seattle was too physical for Denver.........

Finesse usually doesn't beat physicality..........