way too cool on this board to completely give up on our baseball team when they get behind at any point in the game?
Does anyone else feel like it has become
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That's not a knock on Cohen. I love the guy and support him as coach. Just wish we had a little more to work with out there. But let's face it, the knee jerk response by some posters when we get down is somewhat justified. We have very little margin for error. Hell, actually we have none.
it has always been that way. Hell that's why SPS was created. You hada groupguys who got banned for bitching on other message board. Hell you don't have to readevery thread. I know afterevery MSUbig three sporting eventone half the threads are supporting the coach and the other half is bashing him. You can usually now what the thread is about by the title. Just scroll past it. When I see a thread I know i am not going to like I just skip it. If there is nothing I like I leave until the next day.
I'd be willing to bet comebacks are down in general across college baseball as a whole. The threat of the longball just isn't there like it used to be a few years ago. It's hard to come back from down 3 or 4 if you can't go yard and are forced to try to manufacture that many runs. College baseball really needs to look at putting some of the heat back into the bats. I'm not talking about gorilla ball days where anyone could hit 10 homers, but there has to be a happy medium between those bats and the current bats.
We have a young team that is playing solid baseball(esp considering all of the injuries) and Cohen is doing a solid job. I believe that some of theundeserved bashingof our baseball team stems from Coach 34 being the biggest douche bag in thehistory of sports message boards, many people despise himso theycriticize his "boy" more severely justbecause they know that it gets under his skin. That's completely ****** and it needs to be squashed, but Coach seems to bring out the best in our fans. Iam just dreading the Tyler Russell bashing that he will start harping on the second thatbaseball season ends.
wanting to be in top half of the sec considering your history and our recent past? One thing is for sure, fan apathy is not conducive to leap frogging programs that have advantages in football but not baseball. We both should up there w/ LSU and USC and UF.
I'm like you, I say find a happy medium somewhere with the bats. The only guys still putting up numbers are the Florida types that really have no business in college to begin with. A Zunino type of player isn't standard and how they keep convincing these guys to come to school is beyond my realm. But back to the bats, it's killing the sport. And fan interest is going to decline eventually. No one wants to sit thru a season full of 2-1 type scores all season long. Baseball wasn't made to be forced to pitch a freaking shut out or position players forced to never make a single error. But that's what it's come to. Bunting in the first 3 innings to sacrifice runners isn't what the game of baseball is supposed to be about.
Your beef is bigger than ours at this point, because you've got a coach that built a powerhouse, yet failed to ever make it over the top, now in his second decade, and now the product on the field has stagnated and been in slow decline. I think Godwin can change that trend for you though. His recruiting has been insane in his sort period on campus.
Those of us that are realistic knew fully that we had a major rebuild on our hands, not significantly different than the one Bianco inherited(you could actually argue he had better players). We knew this was going to be a mediocre year with all our youth at the plate, before the injuries, so I'd say we're right where I expected us to be at this point(there is a baseball expectations thread from the preseason I'm going to bring back eventually). Next year will be the first time in Cohens tenure that we enter a season with real expectations of taking the next step. The pieces will finally be in place for us to have success on the level that we expect here. That's 8-9 regionals a decade, host 4-5, host 2-3 super regionals, and make Omaha at least twice a decade.
I still believe Cohen can and will accomplish these goals. Just maybe not as quickly as we would have hoped(even if we couldn't realistically believe)...
Those of us that are realistic knew fully that we had a major rebuild on our hands, not significantly different than the one Bianco inherited(you could actually argue he had better players). We knew this was going to be a mediocre year with all our youth at the plate, before the injuries, so I'd say we're right where I expected us to be at this point(there is a baseball expectations thread from the preseason I'm going to bring back eventually). Next year will be the first time in Cohens tenure that we enter a season with real expectations of taking the next step. The pieces will finally be in place for us to have success on the level that we expect here. That's 8-9 regionals a decade, host 4-5, host 2-3 super regionals, and make Omaha at least twice a decade.
I still believe Cohen can and will accomplish these goals. Just maybe not as quickly as we would have hoped(even if we couldn't realistically believe)...
from me this Fall. We have one Spread Option QB on the roster- and 2 drop-back passers. We had to change to due to our personnel and thats what good coaches do.
Tyler has to be the guy- but I do look forward to seeing Dak get some reps each game
I do agree that alot of Cohen-bashing is because of me though. It doesnt bother me- I just laugh at how stupid some of our fans are.
Tyler has to be the guy- but I do look forward to seeing Dak get some reps each game
I do agree that alot of Cohen-bashing is because of me though. It doesnt bother me- I just laugh at how stupid some of our fans are.
The teams that consistently win playing out small ball approach, hardly ever get behind. It just the nature of the beast. You hardly ever put crooked numbers up on the scoreboard playing small ball. Only teams with power threats, can consistently come back from multi run deficits. To win with our approach we have to have a combination of things: Pitching to keep you in it and an offense that can win a majority of the innings. A lot of small minute unnoticed details influence games like this 4-1 game tonight. In the games I have watched this year we are pretty ****** on the base running. I've seen players tagging up multiple times when they had no means tagging and then I've seen players not tagging in situations where they should have been. These type of mental errors cost a lot of runs in the grand scheme and ultimately influence W's and L's. I've also noticed players not running on balls hit into the outfield, where the outfielders have had no chance to catch them.
I've yet to see this from our base runners. A good "Small Ball' team has excellent baserunning. Excellent baserunners take note of each and every outfielders position on each and every pitch. This allows the baserunner to read the ball off the bat and know if any outfielder can reach it most of the time. I've seen us hit gappers this year and a guy is standing close to 2nd until the ball is a few feet away from the ground, whereas a good runner would have known off the bat that the ball wouldnt be caught, and he'd score on the play. Yet, our runners hesitate, dont break early enough, hold up at third, and never score that inning. I've noticed this type of mistake with every one of Cohen's team, but got hammered last year every time I'd bring up a base running miscue.
I don't see baserunning getting much better, but then again a lot of college players are not properly taught the technique of baserunning.
Will be interesting to see what the NCAA does with the bats.
I've yet to see this from our base runners. A good "Small Ball' team has excellent baserunning. Excellent baserunners take note of each and every outfielders position on each and every pitch. This allows the baserunner to read the ball off the bat and know if any outfielder can reach it most of the time. I've seen us hit gappers this year and a guy is standing close to 2nd until the ball is a few feet away from the ground, whereas a good runner would have known off the bat that the ball wouldnt be caught, and he'd score on the play. Yet, our runners hesitate, dont break early enough, hold up at third, and never score that inning. I've noticed this type of mistake with every one of Cohen's team, but got hammered last year every time I'd bring up a base running miscue.
I don't see baserunning getting much better, but then again a lot of college players are not properly taught the technique of baserunning.
Will be interesting to see what the NCAA does with the bats.
in the top half of the SEC.
My point, is that at the first sign of trouble in a game, whethere it's the top of the first or bottom of the ninth, people are flocking to this message board to be the first to call the game a loss. What a sick/sad life those people live.
My point, is that at the first sign of trouble in a game, whethere it's the top of the first or bottom of the ninth, people are flocking to this message board to be the first to call the game a loss. What a sick/sad life those people live.
That's a killer at any level. Agree with others about the bats. They're killing the game of college baseball. They needed to deaden the bats some, but they deadened them about twice as much as they should have. If they can't find a decent bat in the middle, they need to just go back to the 2009 bats.
A lotmore use of the slot receivers and tight ends than we've seen so far under Mullen and Prescott coming in for maybe 10 snaps in certain situations. I don't think he'll just be given the offense for a drive, but will be used for a play or two here and there.
...if the MSU QB is sacked for a loss, 20 people run here & virtually beg for suicide counseling.
What happens here during a baseball game is small potatoes compared to football season.
What happens here during a baseball game is small potatoes compared to football season.
..both OM & MSU are going to make the SECT & then move on to regional play.
By any objective metric, that's above average.
But I get it: Everything is measured against LSU, UF & SC.
LSU is a freak program: They will always be above & beyond 99.9% of all other college baseball programs.
USC will eventually return to the middle of the pack; UF constantly underachieves with their steady conflux of MLB players.
By any objective metric, that's above average.
But I get it: Everything is measured against LSU, UF & SC.
LSU is a freak program: They will always be above & beyond 99.9% of all other college baseball programs.
USC will eventually return to the middle of the pack; UF constantly underachieves with their steady conflux of MLB players.
