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Forgive me if this seems out of leftfield, but...

To what extent does the State College airport matter? I can't stop thinking about this. If I'm a sought-after recruit, if I'm a reputable head coach... and I know that the situation at Penn State is, "Any time you have an away game, you have to take the bus to Harrisburg." (1 hr. 30 min.)

For any of us that travel a lot, we know the sting. It sucks. Hell, for those of us that live in the Los Angeles area, we don't even like to go our own airport! It's actually worth it for me to spend an additional $100+ on airfare if I can get a flight out of Burbank.

I dunno. Maybe I'm overselling it. But to me... it doesn't seem like nothing. I do agree with Franklin on this one. Come on, son. You got all these athletic teams that constantly need to fly out to get to road games... freakin' expand the airport so they can leave from there.
I thought the SC airport runway was long enough to handle the big planes so no need to go to Hburg anymore?
 
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Seriously. The entire nation waits with baided breath to see if we can steal Nebraskas head coach who has an even worse record against top 15 teams. He's 5-2 and they are saying if he simply goes 8-4 he's got the job.

Other than that? That's it. All of the other names either don't want the job or will be coaching into Late January in the playoffs. The hire can't wait until then and you can't hire a coach to do nothing for a month and a half while your roster leaves.

Meanwhile every other coach in the nation is now cashing in on record setting contracts to keep them from going to Penn State, but I still can't find the coach who wants the gig.

This sounds insane but maybe just make Terry Smith the head coach regardless if we finish 3-9 or 6-6, and 6-6 is best case scenario. Not kidding...he might be the only way. Either that or bring back Manny, who I think would both want and take the job. Who would have believed that in late October the Penn State football job is the equivalent of the Penn State basketball job.
Where are you getting this information? This is thee job opening in the country. Lots of folks are interested.
 

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Where are you getting this information? This is thee job opening in the country. Lots of folks are interested.
Florida is the best job in the country. You can build a national level competitor with talent one hour out of Gainesville. Florida's job is Kiffin's to lose but unclear whether they can close the deal. He has a good job at Ole Miss, little to no pressure (he has exceeded historical expectations year in and year out). Does he want to deal with impatient fans? (Same can be said about PSU). Eli Drinkwitz is from Arkansas. He is not coming north. Elko is from Jersey but he would be a lunatic to give up the Texas AM job. That roster is supported by oil and gas money. Who is realistic is unclear to me, but the fit is not as easy to ascertain as suggested by many.
 
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Florida is the best job in the country. You can build a national level competitor with talent one hour out of Gainesville. Florida's job is Kiffin's to lose but unclear whether they can close the deal. He has a good job at Ole Miss, little to no pressure (he has exceeded historical expectations year in and year out). Does he want to deal with impatient fans? (Same can be said about PSU). Eli Drinkwitz is from Arkansas. He is not coming north. Elko is from Jersey but he would be a lunatic to give up the Texas AM job. That roster is supported by oil and gas money. Who is realistic is unclear to me, but the fit is not as easy to ascertain as suggested by many.
Where does the "impatient fans" label for PSU come from?

CJF was given over a decade. He would have been canned after 2020 and 2021 seasons at Bama, Florida or any other SEC contender.
 

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Forgive me if this seems out of leftfield, but...

To what extent does the State College airport matter? I can't stop thinking about this. If I'm a sought-after recruit, if I'm a reputable head coach... and I know that the situation at Penn State is, "Any time you have an away game, you have to take the bus to Harrisburg." (1 hr. 30 min.)

For any of us that travel a lot, we know the sting. It sucks. Hell, for those of us that live in the Los Angeles area, we don't even like to go our own airport! It's actually worth it for me to spend an additional $100+ on airfare if I can get a flight out of Burbank.

I dunno. Maybe I'm overselling it. But to me... it doesn't seem like nothing. I do agree with Franklin on this one. Come on, son. You got all these athletic teams that constantly need to fly out to get to road games... freakin' expand the airport so they can leave from there.
The football team flies out of State College for all away games with the possible exception of a game on the west coast. In that case, they've used either two planes out of SCE or one big one out of MDT. The limitation is a larger, heavier, fuel laden plane needing a longer runway to take off. All other athletics teams use SCE with no problems.

Besides, there are a few college athletics teams which need to take a longer airport bus ride for EVERY away game. Given our location, I think we're doing OK with the airport situation.
 
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Where does the "impatient fans" label for PSU come from?

CJF was given over a decade. He would have been canned after 2020 and 2021 seasons at Bama, Florida or any other SEC contender.
From their behavior during Penn State's recent slide. The toxicity at the stadium was an embarrassment. In any event, we will see how they will behave next year and the next during a rebuilding phase. And by the way, Napier's best season in 4 years was 8 and 4.
 

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Florida is the best job in the country. You can build a national level competitor with talent one hour out of Gainesville. Florida's job is Kiffin's to lose but unclear whether they can close the deal. He has a good job at Ole Miss, little to no pressure (he has exceeded historical expectations year in and year out). Does he want to deal with impatient fans? (Same can be said about PSU). Eli Drinkwitz is from Arkansas. He is not coming north. Elko is from Jersey but he would be a lunatic to give up the Texas AM job. That roster is supported by oil and gas money. Who is realistic is unclear to me, but the fit is not as easy to ascertain as suggested by many.
I don't know if you saw the recent Kiffin show on ESPN, but he all but was prepared to accept the Auburn job a few years ago before his children, and mostly his daughter, talked him out of it, as she just had relocated to Oxford (Kiffin and his wife had divorced or separated). Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes another job that he considers to be a step above Ole Miss.
 
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I don't know if you saw the recent Kiffin show on ESPN, but he all but was prepared to accept the Auburn job a few years ago before his children, and mostly his daughter, talked him out of it, as she just had relocated to Oxford (Kiffin and his wife had divorced or separated). Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes another job that he considers to be a step above Ole Miss.
Right. His daughter goes to Ole Miss and his son is at Oxford High and plays football. His other daughter is at USC playing volleyball, This should tell people one thing. Lane is not leaving the south. I could have seen him go to USC if Riley did not turn USC around (which he seems to be doing), but Florida will be hard to pass up. He will turn that ship around almost immediately. The roster is loaded and the state is littered with 5* recruits. Lagway, though a Billy guy, will not likely pass on being developed by Kiffin, assuming Kiffin does not bring Keegan Croucher with him. In any case, this situation is much, much better than the one at PSU.
 
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Seriously. The entire nation waits with baided breath to see if we can steal Nebraskas head coach who has an even worse record against top 15 teams. He's 5-2 and they are saying if he simply goes 8-4 he's got the job.

Other than that? That's it. All of the other names either don't want the job or will be coaching into Late January in the playoffs. The hire can't wait until then and you can't hire a coach to do nothing for a month and a half while your roster leaves.

Meanwhile every other coach in the nation is now cashing in on record setting contracts to keep them from going to Penn State, but I still can't find the coach who wants the gig.

This sounds insane but maybe just make Terry Smith the head coach regardless if we finish 3-9 or 6-6, and 6-6 is best case scenario. Not kidding...he might be the only way. Either that or bring back Manny, who I think would both want and take the job. Who would have believed that in late October the Penn State football job is the equivalent of the Penn State basketball job.
Addressing some recent fan and sports people interests that are only interesting to them.

PS will never hire Fitzgerald because of what went on at NW getting him fired. The hazing was Sandusky type stuff.

I think Brohm could be a go and he has been contacted beyond the initial contact I know nothing on him. I suspect he might like to be back in the BIG 10 but I also think he will use the interest to get a raise at his alma mater.

Key is on the list but is a deep south guy all the way. While he has had some great coaching up and comes from an excellent coaching tree, I don't see it happening as he has no northeast connections.

Lashlee is another deep south guy with no northeast connections and relationships matter I'm not seeing it at all and so far as I have been able to find out there has been no contact between him and PS.
 

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Florida is the best job in the country. You can build a national level competitor with talent one hour out of Gainesville. Florida's job is Kiffin's to lose but unclear whether they can close the deal. He has a good job at Ole Miss, little to no pressure (he has exceeded historical expectations year in and year out). Does he want to deal with impatient fans? (Same can be said about PSU). Eli Drinkwitz is from Arkansas. He is not coming north. Elko is from Jersey but he would be a lunatic to give up the Texas AM job. That roster is supported by oil and gas money. Who is realistic is unclear to me, but the fit is not as easy to ascertain as suggested by many.
That's debatable. Florida's schedule is brutal compared to our schedule.
We also spend like 30% more on football than Florida which sounds insane but is true.
 

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Man, would Elko be a home run.

Bruce Feldman did report he's at the top of the list. Yes, on the surface, it doesn't seem likely that he'd leave A&M. But maybe there are some factors going our direction. A&M has never won a thing and they'll be swimming upstream in their own state let alone the SEC as a whole - there's a much easier path in recruiting and schedule to have consistent success at PSU vs A&M. A&M still has LSU, Mizzou, Texas, and South Carolina on their schedule alone.

Elko is from South Brunswick and his wife is from Franklinville. He played college ball at Penn. He currently makes 7 million a year - no doubt A&M will bump him, but if the numbers being thrown around are true, PSU may be willing to go into the teens for the right guy. He could outright dominate the Northeast in recruiting and it seems like Kraft is willing to spend with the best of the other ADs in the country.

My list keeps changing but I think I'd be psyched for any of these in order - Elko, Brady, Key, Brohm.
 

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Absolutely. It's not sexy and it's not a grand slam but how are those two grand slams coordinating our **** show of an offense and defense looking right about now?

I say hire Manny Diaz and don't look back. He understands the culture, the big donors will absolutely love him as opposed to Franklin who they hated, and he damn well can get us back to the CFP. There were less than 5 possible hires that you could have dreamed that would be certain things for a natty, and none of them are walking through that door, and the others won't walk through it until February. That's too late.

Manny Diaz.

Arivacalion nails it! Manny Diaz ... who only posted a 21-15 record at Miami before getting canned ... and whose career head coaching highlight is a 9-4 season at Duke last year in which his team lost all its games against ranked opponents and who has never sniffed a meaningful postseason game ... that's the guy who will lead us to the promised land of the CFP ... you know, where we were just last year with the guy we just panic-canned.
 

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Hmmm. Didn't know that Jon Gruden is coaching in the Hula Bowl at the end of the season.
 

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Forgive me if this seems out of leftfield, but...

To what extent does the State College airport matter? I can't stop thinking about this. If I'm a sought-after recruit, if I'm a reputable head coach... and I know that the situation at Penn State is, "Any time you have an away game, you have to take the bus to Harrisburg." (1 hr. 30 min.)

For any of us that travel a lot, we know the sting. It sucks. Hell, for those of us that live in the Los Angeles area, we don't even like to go our own airport! It's actually worth it for me to spend an additional $100+ on airfare if I can get a flight out of Burbank.

I dunno. Maybe I'm overselling it. But to me... it doesn't seem like nothing. I do agree with Franklin on this one. Come on, son. You got all these athletic teams that constantly need to fly out to get to road games... freakin' expand the airport so they can leave from there.

Spend your time worrying about something meaningful, and not this. State College's airport can handle flights from the west coast coming in ... they just can't handle flights going out to, let's say, California (because the planes are too heavy with fuel).

So, once a year or so they have to ride a bus to get to an airport to take off (but they'll land back in State College). It's probably thing #153,943rd on the list of things a potential recruit would care about. If it's even that important.
 

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Man, would Elko be a home run.

Bruce Feldman did report he's at the top of the list. Yes, on the surface, it doesn't seem likely that he'd leave A&M. But maybe there are some factors going our direction. A&M has never won a thing and they'll be swimming upstream in their own state let alone the SEC as a whole - there's a much easier path in recruiting and schedule to have consistent success at PSU vs A&M. A&M still has LSU, Mizzou, Texas, and South Carolina on their schedule alone.

Elko is from South Brunswick and his wife is from Franklinville. He played college ball at Penn. He currently makes 7 million a year - no doubt A&M will bump him, but if the numbers being thrown around are true, PSU may be willing to go into the teens for the right guy. He could outright dominate the Northeast in recruiting and it seems like Kraft is willing to spend with the best of the other ADs in the country.

My list keeps changing but I think I'd be psyched for any of these in order - Elko, Brady, Key, Brohm.
Elko would be a good hire yes, but in 2025 it doesn’t matter where a coach is originally from. Recruiting is national now, i would hire Rhett Lashlee despite him only coaching 1 year above the mason-dixon. PSU needs a coach who understands offensive design and QB coaching. Money talks, the recruits will still come.
 

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Man, would Elko be a home run.

Bruce Feldman did report he's at the top of the list. Yes, on the surface, it doesn't seem likely that he'd leave A&M. But maybe there are some factors going our direction. A&M has never won a thing and they'll be swimming upstream in their own state let alone the SEC as a whole - there's a much easier path in recruiting and schedule to have consistent success at PSU vs A&M. A&M still has LSU, Mizzou, Texas, and South Carolina on their schedule alone.

Elko is from South Brunswick and his wife is from Franklinville. He played college ball at Penn. He currently makes 7 million a year - no doubt A&M will bump him, but if the numbers being thrown around are true, PSU may be willing to go into the teens for the right guy. He could outright dominate the Northeast in recruiting and it seems like Kraft is willing to spend with the best of the other ADs in the country.

My list keeps changing but I think I'd be psyched for any of these in order - Elko, Brady, Key, Brohm.
12 to 15 million or so it has been said.
 
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Elko unless he says no. If he does, then one of Lea Diaz or Mullen as a dark horse at this point but that's just me. All have Northeast connections and coaching experience. Something Kraft mentioned as a plus. Kraft wanted the coach to be NIL savvy and experienced in Transfer Portal successes. All of the above seem to fit Kraft's interests. Mullens salary is 3.5 million buyout of 12 million. Elko's salary is 7 million I think. Lea's salary is 3 million plus Diaz salary 4 million. No other mentioned candidates fit all of Kraft's mentioned connections.
I don't see how we get Elko. A&M may make the playoffs, making him unavailable until January. We need someone in place before the December signing day. Also A&M can easily outbid us if it turns into a bidding war.
 

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PS will never hire Fitzgerald because of what went on at NW getting him fired.
You may be right. But kind of a tough argument to make when there are two PSU football players, from the most recent/current regime, awaiting trial for rapes of female undergrads. A situation that, based on actions taken by the University, they all want to pretend never even exists - and certainly not one that led to any actions taken by the University vav the head coach or the program.

The entire context - this and other issues, taken in totality:
It would be impossible for it to be more abundantly clear that the only thing that matters is "Win More Games"
 
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Forgive me if this seems out of leftfield, but...

To what extent does the State College airport matter? I can't stop thinking about this. If I'm a sought-after recruit, if I'm a reputable head coach... and I know that the situation at Penn State is, "Any time you have an away game, you have to take the bus to Harrisburg." (1 hr. 30 min.)

For any of us that travel a lot, we know the sting. It sucks. Hell, for those of us that live in the Los Angeles area, we don't even like to go our own airport! It's actually worth it for me to spend an additional $100+ on airfare if I can get a flight out of Burbank.

I dunno. Maybe I'm overselling it. But to me... it doesn't seem like nothing. I do agree with Franklin on this one. Come on, son. You got all these athletic teams that constantly need to fly out to get to road games... freakin' expand the airport so they can leave from there.
The solution is that when be build those player specific one bedroom dorms we build them in Harrisburg. Obviously.
 

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You may be right. But kind of a tough argument to make when there are two PSU football players, from the most recent/current regime, awaiting trial for rapes of female undergrads. A situation that, based on actions taken by the University, they all want to pretend never even exists - and certainly not one that led to any actions taken by the University vav the head coach or the program.

The entire context - this and other issues, taken in totality:
It would be impossible for it to be more abundantly clear that the only thing that matters is "Win More Games"
No it's really not all such things should be punished to the full extent of the law. Also not inviting a bad impression is also appropriate.
 

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Man, would Elko be a home run.

Bruce Feldman did report he's at the top of the list. Yes, on the surface, it doesn't seem likely that he'd leave A&M. But maybe there are some factors going our direction. A&M has never won a thing and they'll be swimming upstream in their own state let alone the SEC as a whole - there's a much easier path in recruiting and schedule to have consistent success at PSU vs A&M. A&M still has LSU, Mizzou, Texas, and South Carolina on their schedule alone.

Elko is from South Brunswick and his wife is from Franklinville. He played college ball at Penn. He currently makes 7 million a year - no doubt A&M will bump him, but if the numbers being thrown around are true, PSU may be willing to go into the teens for the right guy. He could outright dominate the Northeast in recruiting and it seems like Kraft is willing to spend with the best of the other ADs in the country.

My list keeps changing but I think I'd be psyched for any of these in order - Elko, Brady, Key, Brohm.
I'm having doubts about Brady. No HC experience. I think that needs to be a prerequisite.
 

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What is the realistic hot board now?

Drinkowitz
Kiffin
Brady
Elko
Rhule
Campbell

Any chance you make a play for Gruden? I like the idea of being able to get someone in sooner rather than later. I'd still like to see Hartline and Stein on the list. Unless Kraft pulls a DeBoer out of the hat, I like Drinkowitz, Brady, and Elko best. Not sure they'll be available though.
 

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You may be right. But kind of a tough argument to make when there are two PSU football players, from the most recent/current regime, awaiting trial for rapes of female undergrads. A situation that, based on actions taken by the University, they all want to pretend never even exists - and certainly not one that led to any actions taken by the University vav the head coach or the program.

The entire context - this and other issues, taken in totality:
It would be impossible for it to be more abundantly clear that the only thing that matters is "Win More Games"
It would only be a tough argument to make if you abandoned logic and reason. Fitzgerald condoned and directed hazing of players, including, but not limited to, sexual acts.

There is absolutely NO evidence that the 2 PSU football players' actions were either condoned or directed by anyone associated with the university.

In fact, due to your insatiable bloodlust, your temerarious attack on the university is more likely itself to be actionable libel than it is to be found to be a valid attempt at a logical analogy.

You continue down this road of desperation, and you're no doubt going to need more gofundmes, financial planner. Or, you can tap into the goodwill on your balance sheet, sport.
 

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You may be right. But kind of a tough argument to make when there are two PSU football players, from the most recent/current regime, awaiting trial for rapes of female undergrads. A situation that, based on actions taken by the University, they all want to pretend never even exists - and certainly not one that led to any actions taken by the University vav the head coach or the program.

The entire context - this and other issues, taken in totality:
It would be impossible for it to be more abundantly clear that the only thing that matters is "Win More Games"
Wow. I was not aware of this. Who are the psu players?
 

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What is the realistic hot board now?

Drinkowitz
Kiffin
Brady
Elko
Rhule
Campbell

Any chance you make a play for Gruden? I like the idea of being able to get someone in sooner rather than later. I'd still like to see Hartline and Stein on the list. Unless Kraft pulls a DeBoer out of the hat, I like Drinkowitz, Brady, and Elko best. Not sure they'll be available though.
Forget Brady. Add DeBoer.
 
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Wow. I was not aware of this. Who are the psu players?
Key and Lyons who if I remember correctly were dismissed from the team and never let back on. Hell, not even sure where they are at currently. What that has to do with the HC is pretty much nada unless we want to bring up the hit pieces done at Joe towards the end of his reign which too were unfair.
 
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