We’d be entertained seeing @psuro discuss Manny’s hair with envy.
Does anyone WANT the job?
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I compare Urban to Rick Pitino.
Your program will win. They are both going to make you feel filthy while you win. Depends on if that’s okay with you or not.
Spread, one back. I watched them vs Cincinnati. It was entertaining football, wide open b12 style. They have a pretty good TE, Gesicki type player. Cincinnati has possibly the dirtiest dbs I’ve ever seen. I couldn’t determine Campbell’s defensive scheme other than a 3-3-5 which is what you do in the b12.
Good thing you weren't responsible for hiring Day at OSU, Smart at Georgia, Lanning at Oregon, Dabo at Clemson or Freeman at Notre Dame. None would have even gotten an interview with you.
Since 2020 Drinkowitz is 7-14 against the top 25, 1-7 against the top 10.
Somehow Franklin was also 7-14 against the top 25 over that period, 2-11 against the top 10.
So against teams ranked 11-25 Franklin is 5-3 and Drink is 6-7 this decade.
Not seeing it, even though I expect him to get another top 10 win against top 10 Vanderbilt this week.
So you're saying he has no experience in any of the following categories
1) managing an organization comprised of dozens of individuals (football related, media, medical, PSU admin, academics.....)
2) defense, or how to build and coach a squad resembling same
3) visiting and recruiting players from places with which he's unfamiliar and might not be like him?
Why do people suddenly give a sh|t about drunkwitz? Because of Beau? For f*ck’s sake.
Maybe the baggage he carries and most Universities that have a pulse probably don't want the headaches of answering for his hire. Time may cure that, but the fact he wasn't brought on somewhere kind of leads you to believe that he isn't coming back to a big program anytime soon.....buy you never know.
I agree. In terms of performance, he is a clone of Franklin. I am not sure he is a consideration here without the Beau connection.
I personally think that Penn State is going to wind up with a hire that leaves a lot to be desired (Rhule), or will have to try to find the next Drink (Golesh etc), or just hire a coordinator.
All these schools will pony up and match whatever Penn State will offer for current coaches.
He's doing at a lesser football school and in a harder conference top to bottom. Not sure he is top of the list, but this has little to do with Beau....his name was linked in every article and it wasn't because of BP....mindless BWI free board drivel. Tons of names are being tossed around but this idea PSU has some sure fire hire out there is a bit of a joke.
I think you’re underestimating how much a head coach has to do/manage, and how few of those things Brady has experience doing. His job is to create and execute a game plan, that’s it. His job at Penn State would be 180 degrees different
He's the classic 'has done more with less' candidate; righted the ship in his fourth year at Mizzou and achieved an 11-3 record which included awin over 13th ranked Tennessee and a bowl win over 7th ranked Ohio State. This with recruiting classes the previous three years ranked 50, 30, and 18. In fact, he's never had a class ranked better than 14. Franklin over that same period never beat OSU and had classes with a ranking no lower than 20. He's young, energetic, and has fielded competitive teams. No real 'bad' losses. He's probably mentioned more than he should be but the Pribula connection (and his taking two PA QBs from under PSU's nose in 25 and 26) helps.
I really hope that's not the list
Not really. Gruden isn't being touched. Rhule and Golden are only mentioned due to PSU ties. Rhule having close ties to the current AD isn't necessarily a good thing IMO...screams of a nepotism like hire.
Golesh, Drink, Stein, Manny, Silverfield, and Stein are all on quite a few lists. Running or being a CEO of a program is a huge step for Brady but maybe if a GM role is opened up maybe some of that can be taken off his plate.
I'm implying that he hasn't overseen development of players. At the pro level, they have been coached up and it's a safe assumption they have the required skills. Teaching/coaching is required at the college level. I could easily be wrong but I feel he is a very risky hire.
Said this earlier in this thread, but if you believe basically every media member who ever broaches the subject, Campbell is the coach in P4 doing the most with the least financial resources.Again, if I read it properly, Campbell’s buyout is just $2 million and he is making $5 million per year.
Campbell would do a good job. Brown would do a good job.
I tend to think there are a lot of names being thrown around who will do a good to great job for Penn State. All except Rhule I expect would do a better job for Penn State than Franklin did.
I’ve heard several football guys saying he would be a good fit and do well.
Campbell’s offense changed as his talent changed.
In the past 5 years he has gone from Brock Purdy and 3 TE spread sets to having 2 WRs drafted in top 3 rounds in one draft.
I’m not altogether sold that Urban wins in 2026 like he did in 2016. It’s not that he’s changed, it’s that his competition has tools they did not back then. Mostly, if a kid gets tired of him they can just leave.
The only one of your "suggestions" that is remotely close to choosing Brady or another Coordinator with no experience is Lanning. And Lanning took over a good situation when Cristobal went back to Miami (I'm thinking he may be regretting that choice) Freeman was elevated, Day was elevated, Swinney was elevated. Kirby had been coordinator at Alabama for a decade AND went back to his alma mater. Lanning was the riskiest choice of the 5 you reference, and he stepped in to a much better situation than whoever takes over at Penn State. As others have stated, this is not a job to learn on the fly. The only way you choose a Joe Brady or Stein or Hartline is if you are willing to have multiple year growing pains. Maybe not but historically coordinators being elevated to big time jobs have not fared well. Are you willing to take that risk? During a $700 million stadium expansion? While navigating a lost recruiting class and most certainly losing 50% of the existing roster through graduation and portal.
I suspect if Franklin gets another gig he will take much of the staff with him, and a good number of players as well.
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I suspect if Franklin gets another gig he will take much of the staff with him, and a good number of players as well.
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He plays a lot of 3-2-6 and even some 3-1-7 in base downs with a bear front.
But he bases out of 3-3-5 yes.
No particular order. Elko slipping Campbell Drinkwitz Lea Diaz rising. Elko said of the rumor of him and PS was "a complete waste of brain space"
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I like him but I kind of agree with you here: if you like Drink, I think there are a few guys you can pluck from G5 schools who can do as good a job.
I teach in a school with a few D1 recruits, one I had in class and I talk to about recruiting regularly. This is a kid with a Penn State offer, Georgia offer, Ohio State etc.
He’s not a QB, but one of the few things that would move him just the same is if a coach not only said, “I coached Josh Allen last year, and watch this” then called him on speaker. The kids have 3 minute attention spans but they all know Allen and Burrow. In 2025 those things are currency.
Again, if I read it properly, Campbell’s buyout is just $2 million and he is making $5 million per year.
I originally said Campbell had no shot, but new info has completely changed my mind. He is in the mix.Again, if I read it properly, Campbell’s buyout is just $2 million and he is making $5 million per year.
Agree with them.
I think in any hire, that’s super important and your team usually takes on the mentality of the coach. Campbell doesn’t say much, doesn’t act like an idiot. Just coaches ball.
He has a lot of internal support at PS. That doesn't mean he would get the job but it's not hurting him.
Yeah, no thanks to Urban. Now that I've said that it will probably be him
I think you are spot on. This will be a complete rebuild and will require more than the skill-set of a position coach, and frankly of a coordinator. What some folks do not understand is the loyalty Franklin shows to his staff and players. It was one of his defining characteristics, for better or worse. This means that he will be looking to find a landing spot soon, not only because he wants to prove PSU wrong but also because he wants to make sure that he takes care of all the people that have come to rely on him. Much of the staff will go with him, and I would be shocked if some of the top players in the program do not follow him. This job is not for a rookie and will require significant patience on the part of the fan base.
Seriously. Why would Elko leave Texas AM and the annual flood of money into the program for a complete rebuild at PSU? Just because he went to Penn and comes from NJ? The very thought is bizarre. Drink is from Arkansas and has been successful in the SEC. Again, why would he leave just when Missouri is competitive to restart a program on life support? Lea is from Tenn, went to Vandy, and has Vany humming. Same question. Why would he leave?
I think Rhule is a train wreck waiting to happen. Manny and Campbell are realistic if they are looking to compete at a more prominent program. Forget any coordinators. The work that needs to be done needs someone experienced to put humpty dumpty together again.
Drinkowitz is at Missouri, with equal or lesser talent to the ranked teams he is playing against. Franklin was at PSU, with greater or equal talent to the ranked teams he played against. Come on, man.