Does Kash Need to Start???

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It comes down to geography, and of course has for years. Look at a map of all Eastern Kentucky and a huge portion of it is Mountains, take that same amount of space of th map of Texas, or Iowa, California or Mississippi and you have towns and people in the same amount of area. Less people , less students playing a game for local schools. That's why it's a barren area for football, or for that matter artists, computer code writers or door to door salesman.

As far as saying Eastern Kentucky tough is a different kind of thought than other places, ask yourself this if you have seen it yourself. Does that Texas roughneck, or Colorodo rodeo tough, or that south side Chicago head buster, or that NYC hustler, do they ride back under the mountain for 3 miles in a 29" seem of coal and work for 12 hours chipping chunks of block coal out half the day ? Until you've seen the genetic makeup year after year , time after time, rugged to the core then you really have not given credit where it's due. Many here can't even wrap their minds around just how God dang rough these people are and the balls it takes daily to do the jobs that are a way of life passed down through generations, but it helps to know so we can put it into perspective sometimes.

Yes there are healthier people and less obesity, and all the other bad things that are in these hills . But never think their are not some crazy rugged people from these hills. Still every now and then the world gets a glimpse of a Tim Couch and it's the rarity that makes them loved and respected that much more. It's kind of like finding a diamond in that coal field. One thing for sure is weather it's Jason Ledger or Tim Couch or Joey Coach or Jerremy Caudell that man is gonna give his all for the big blue. Maybe more so than a run of the mill recruit.
 

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Wasn't Kash rated the #3 ILB in the rivals rankings as a high school senior?? I don't care where he's from, he's a beast and needs to be on the field!
We have a bunch of nice guys that just like to dance around on the sidelines while giving up 500+ yards to a team that shouldn't have scored a single point against a UK defense!
I may be wrong but believe that Kash will put some fear into opposing RB's if given the chance.
 

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While it is true, there are few quality FB Players in Mountain schools, this stems from lack of competition & the overall number of individuals that are available in the schools that participate in the sport! This being said, it has been my observation that those who do make it to UK are or have been successful!
Perhaps you remember a couple of brothers from Corbin, Ky., Calvin & Jerry Bird, with a little less stardom, the Hughes brothers, QB's from Prestonsburg, Ky. & how about Jeremy Caudill our Mr. Tim Couch ?
Oliver Barnett, Joey Couch and Brian Williams come immediately to mind, also.

I don't know how good Kash actually is, but I do think he deserves some meaningful minutes at linebacker, based on what I've seen from Love. If nothing else, he may be a better run-stopper than Love. I will say that I've watched Kash intently on special teams and not seen anything extraordinary out of him thus far, but he may be a better fit in down defense situations, versus special teams. I think we need to find out.
 
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megablue

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Amen brother, he is so poor at mlb that a change needs to happen today!!!

I hope Love doesn't end up being another Nebraska transfer from Ohio that doesn't pan out, like Braylon Heard. I may be wrong, but it appeared they were so sure about Heard that they ran off Dy'Shawn Mobley as a running back, after rushing 43 times for 300 yards (6.98 ypc) in 2013, with two (2) 100-yard games to end the season. It seemed like they had their minds made up about how good Braylon Heard was going to before he proved it on the field. He was beaten out by Boom Williams and JoJo Kemp and did not return for his Senior year. Greg Hart, also a Nebraska transfer from Ohio, is looking like he will be a pretty good tight end, but it's still too early to really tell.
 

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I bet you were a huge Richie Farmer fan, weren't you?

This post is such fantasy-land bunk. People from Eky are not any "tougher" on average than those from other regions (but they are plenty more obese, according to public health statistics), that's plain nonsense based on nothing other than what you "want" to believe.

And reality is that Eky has for decades been one of the worst regions in the entire country for producing athletic talent. Absent a few very rare exceptions (like Kash) the region has long been known as an athletic black hole to recruiters. And your suggestion that we should be looking at players there for "speed" is downright hilarious--that's the LAST region to go looking for speedsters.

I'll bet some guy from East Kentucky took your girlfriend, or kicked your ***.
 
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I hope Love doesn't end up being another Nebraska transfer from Ohio that doesn't pan out, like Braylon Heard. I may be wrong, but it appeared they were so sure about Heard that they ran off Dy'Shawn Mobley as a running back, after rushing 43 times for 300 yards (6.98 ypc) in 2013, with two (2) 100-yard games to end the season. It seemed like they had their minds made up about how good Braylon Heard was going to before he proved it on the field. He was beaten out by Boom Williams and JoJo Kemp and did not return for his Senior year. Greg Hart, also a Nebraska transfer from Ohio, is looking like he will be a pretty good tight end, but it's still too early to really tell.

Vince Marrow is the Frank Lucas of Ohio, I've said since day one if your holding your hat for Ohio to make UK a winner keep dreaming, stay south
 

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I think recruiters might take a Tx or Fla boy over a boy from the Mts. with the same stats. Always thought this was a bad thing for UK. When I look at the Dline at App St. and they are local boys from their mountains, and they are in UTs backfield all night , and ours gets dominated by southern Mississippi I say that's lack of development.
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False. Are you just making stuff up? The starters on the DLine and even the Line Backers at App state are from Hampton, GA (outside Atlanta), China Grove, NC (outside Charlotte), Wilmington, NC (on the East Coast), and other parts of South Carolina and Georgia. Same with the 2nd string. None of them are "local boys from their mountains". Just because the school has "Appalachian" in the name and is located in a pretty and scenic area in the "mountains" of NC, doesn't mean they have "tough mountain boys" making plays. LOL
 
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Isn't Love a co-captain? The way the staff has fawned over him and made him out to be the next Ray Lewis they would have to eat a lot of crow if they bench him in favor of a true freshmen. I think they should at least rotate Daniel into that spot and see what he can do. The linebacker play couldn't get much worse.
 

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I am all for having kids from the Commonwealth wearing blue, but how exactly does having a daddy, granddaddy, and great-granddaddy who worked in the coal mines make someone a better football player?

Is this particular individual getting involved in football early? Can he practice year round? Does he have access to appropriate strength training, speed training and agility training staff, facilities and equipment? Does he practice against and play against good competition? Does he have good coaches?

I think those are more important factors than what their daddy and grandpappy did for a living. Yes, kids from E KY may have a "blue collar" mindset, but football is about more than just "toughness." Toughness will not make you catch someone who is faster than you. Toughness will not make you shed a block if your opponent is more athletic or has better technique. Toughness will not make you succeed if your coaches do not put you in the right position to succeed.

Simply loading the UK roster with E KY kids will accomplish nothing. I see folks from E KY glow about the "mountain boys" only to have disappointing performances compared to other SEC players.
 

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False. Are you just making stuff up? The starters on the DLine and even the Line Backers at App state are from Hampton, GA (outside Atlanta), China Grove, NC (outside Charlotte), Wilmington, NC (on the East Coast), and other parts of South Carolina and Georgia. Same with the 2nd string. None of them are "local boys from their mountains". Just because the school has "Appalachian" in the name and is located in a pretty and scenic area in the "mountains" of NC, doesn't mean they have "tough mountain boys" making plays. LOL

Figured that comment was full of crap.
 

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The second coming of Snedegar. When UK stunk at least he was there jacking jaws and never backing down. If Stoops was smart he'd play Kash, just for crowd pleasure, because they aren't getting much anywhere else.

Seems like a great marketing call, if your being destroyed, why not ?
 
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Love obviously has some problems at MLB. I may be way off here but try something completely different. Put Kash in over Love the try love out with his hand in the ground. He may be a little on the small side ar DE but he should be faster. Give him one job pressure the QB. If he doesn't work out at DE but Lash does then 1 problem down. Stoops would also keep his loyalty to Love.
 

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Love obviously has some problems at MLB. I may be way off here but try something completely different. Put Kash in over Love the try love out with his hand in the ground. He may be a little on the small side ar DE but he should be faster. Give him one job pressure the QB. If he doesn't work out at DE but Lash does then 1 problem down. Stoops would also keep his loyalty to Love.

All about Marrow is what the news is
 

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We have one of the worst defenses in college football. How can playing Kash disrupt that? I say play the kid, that will get him some experience for down the road. So what if he makes mistakes, it isn't like we are not already giving up over 500 yards per game. With that happening, how can he be any worse?
 

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False. Are you just making stuff up? The starters on the DLine and even the Line Backers at App state are from Hampton, GA (outside Atlanta), China Grove, NC (outside Charlotte), Wilmington, NC (on the East Coast), and other parts of South Carolina and Georgia. Same with the 2nd string. None of them are "local boys from their mountains". Just because the school has "Appalachian" in the name and is located in a pretty and scenic area in the "mountains" of NC, doesn't mean they have "tough mountain boys" making plays. LOL
China Grove , NC and Wilmington , NC last I checked its in state players . Know Wilmington is on the coast have no idea off the head where China Grove is .All i know is I seen time after time a North Carolina player in UT' s backfield either rushing or shedding blocks and making tackles. I'll take a UK player from Fulton Co who lives in an island on the Mississippi River of he plays better than what we have now. By all accounts Hyde is from the hills and can't even get on the field. He bleeds blue but that ain't winning games in the trenches.

My only point is most of the time kids with a 4.5 40 benching and jumping the same stats gets slighted when we take a kid from anywhere else who has the same stats over the mountain kid. And I'll say there is still the issue that Apalachain State has aD line that is light years better than ours. Explain and research that one while your at it, and then when you figure it out let me know and a man named Mark Stoops as well.
 

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Stoops wants the fans to keep coming and supporting this team so "in support" I think when SC starts running the ball at us we all need to chant "KASH" until he plays him or we embarrass Stoops!
 

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China Grove , NC and Wilmington , NC last I checked its in state players . Know Wilmington is on the coast have no idea off the head where China Grove is .All i know is I seen time after time a North Carolina player in UT' s backfield either rushing or shedding blocks and making tackles. I'll take a UK player from Fulton Co who lives in an island on the Mississippi River of he plays better than what we have now. By all accounts Hyde is from the hills and can't even get on the field. He bleeds blue but that ain't winning games in the trenches.

My only point is most of the time kids with a 4.5 40 benching and jumping the same stats gets slighted when we take a kid from anywhere else who has the same stats over the mountain kid. And I'll say there is still the issue that Apalachain State has aD line that is light years better than ours. Explain and research that one while your at it, and then when you figure it out let me know and a man named Mark Stoops as well.


First of all, I agree with you that our coaches are horrible at developing talent and that our DLine is bad. That's obvious so save the "explain and research that" stuff.

Second, you made something up. Just own it. App state doesn't have any local mountain boys as you stated. I told you where China Grove was...it's right outside of a BIG CITY called Charlotte.
 
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First of all, I agree with you that our coaches are horrible at developing talent and that our DLine is bad. That's obvious so save the "explain and research that" stuff.

Second, you made something up. Just own it. App state doesn't have any local mountain boys as you stated. I told you where China Grove was...it's right outside of a BIG CITY called Charlotte.
I'll own I don't know where China grove is and that maybe I never googled the team roster and their locations of their D lineman. All I know is I seen Carolina boys making plays all night. I've also stated before I'd take the boys in state if it was Louisville or Harlan or Lexington, mountains ain't some deal breaker to me. I'll take them from Alaska or the Florida keys if it plugs up our line. And still it remains they have in state leftovers and look like a far better line than our SEC players..

But dead serious I honestly would never just make that **** up and try to sell it after the fact. Just a fly by statement in a kinda pissed off mode at the dog **** we as fans even have to debate. Just when I see an App St. looking like a well oiled unit , and our D has more holes than Bonnie and Clydes car , I wonder how North Carolina pass overs do it with in state guys and we cannot . That is the mystery I seek to find..
 
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I'll own I don't know where China grove is and that maybe I never googled the team roster and their locations of their D lineman. All I know is I seen Carolina boys making plays all night. I've also stated before I'd take the boys in state if it was Louisville or Harlan or Lexington, mountains ain't some deal breaker to me. I'll take them from Alaska or the Florida keys if it plugs up our line. And still it remains they have in state leftovers and look like a far better line than our SEC players..

But dead serious I honestly would never just make that **** up and try to sell it after the fact. Just a fly by statement in a kinda pissed off mode at the dog **** we as fans even have to debate. Just when I see an App St. looking like a well oiled unit , and our D has more holes than Bonnie and Clydes car , I wonder how North Carolina pass overs do it with in state guys and we cannot . That is the mystery I seek to find..

Google is your friend

http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/appalacian-state/92913
 

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Love is a 4th year player (1 redshirt at Nebraska, a regular season at Nebraska, a sit out here last year, and this season), I don't think it's unfair to say he is what he is at this point.

Let me preface this by saying Courtney Love is a very nice young man (maybe to nice), but his football instincts are terrible. Middle linebacker is a position where you have to have a nose for the football. Make your reads quick, be harder to block, and meet the back in the gap preferably. I think you're right, he is at this point what he is. Give Kash some reps.
 
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