Now is the time. We're gaining momentum but need to keep it up. Thanks to all that have donated. Even if it's a small amount. We need to capitalize and close the gap noe especially with um on their slide down.
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I know I’m beating a dead horse, but if our athletic department wants to improve donations from the average Joe, they need to put more effort into it. The “please give us some money and trust that it will be used wisely” approach isn’t ever gonna cut it for the everyday family that has to make decisions between this or a summer vacation, saving for college, saving for retirement, etc.
We want to know why we’re donating, where it’s going, and frankly… what’s the incentive? A 1 in 10,000 chance to win a Polk signed baseball? Yeah, no thanks. Do a better job selling it or perhaps start by at least trying, and you’ll start seeing better results.
We want to know why we’re donating, where it’s going, and frankly… what’s the incentive? A 1 in 10,000 chance to win a Polk signed baseball? Yeah, no thanks. Do a better job selling it or perhaps start by at least trying, and you’ll start seeing better results.
Exactly. Buying a two million dollar OT for Loadholt is like buying a $5000 set of clubs for @Jeffreauxdawg. He’s just gonna shank it all over the place.
I don't work for them but it's obvious to see if you buy tickets and don't go to all the games you'll likely easily get back what you put in with roi if we're able to get better players and win more games. Right now you can't hardly sell your tickets and when you do it's Penny's on the dollar.
I will agree the engagement has been minimal with the average fan in raising money. I saw there they had quite double point for donations at the end of the year. I saw that when I went to give some more on January. I wish that I'd have seen it sooner and I'd have likely given then and more. They use to travel around and put on programs. I'm sure they'll ramp back up in the summer. They could be doing a lot more. Seems they are working on big donors right now and it's paying off with the numbers being tossed around.
Either way I know some of yall are trolls trying to persuade state fans not to donate. Others just want excuse not to and don't want others to so they won't feel like the odd one out and being "right"
I'm the end, that's the era we're in and if you watch us on TV a monthly donation of $20 each to your schools program is easily as much worth as your Netflix account.
They are putting a pretty good portal class together. If there is success on the field next year, NIL donations will go up. It isn’t exactly rocket science.
I like MSU sports, but what little extra money I have goes to things much more important to me.
Sure! Can I get a rundown on how it will be spent first?
Some people can’t give. I get it.
But if you spend your extra money on things that are “more important” and don’t give at all, don’t complain.
I’ll say it again. I’m in the top 9% of the BDC and that isn’t bc I’m wealthy or give a ton of money. THATS 17ing SAD.
I know people who make lots more money than me and don’t give anything. NOTHING. ZERO.
#pathetic
Loadholt drastically improves the OLine talent and still gets no credit. Maybe Goat was right about our fans after all
The whole thing is so twisted. What other league ask for donations to cover salaries? (Maybe there is one out there, I don’t know)
And then we are asking people that are maybe just above the median income to send in money so a left tackle can make 2.5 million?
People can spend their money where they want obviously, but this is all a little convoluted and I am not sure all the money in the world donated this year will keep us from going for it on 4th and 8 from our own 25.
And then we are asking people that are maybe just above the median income to send in money so a left tackle can make 2.5 million?
People can spend their money where they want obviously, but this is all a little convoluted and I am not sure all the money in the world donated this year will keep us from going for it on 4th and 8 from our own 25.
Dang guys, you suck.... Oh, wait, I am not donating either. Why? I must care more for my money than if State wins or not.
I do buy tickets and merchandise etc... I have several cowbells, shirts etc... The money for NIL has to come from somewhere though.
I think the sport needs to be set up so it pays for itself and not rely on the regular fan for more and more. If there are people willing to give and have plenty for themselves, then I applaud them and I am grateful for their donations as it makes my fan experience better.
It's' not about Lebby though. I think the guy is doing some good things and is learning. Continuity matters and I certainly like the portal hauls they have gotten. Of course we always want more but it's been pretty darn good considering what was out there. Getting a sure fire LT would be a game changer as I think they have enough for everything else even without someone stepping up to the LT role. I didin't think it would be possible to get 2-3 OL starters out of the portal this offseason but I think they have at least 2 now.
Proof will be in the games next year but donate now if you are so inclined as it can only help. I thank those that give now. Thank You
I do buy tickets and merchandise etc... I have several cowbells, shirts etc... The money for NIL has to come from somewhere though.
I think the sport needs to be set up so it pays for itself and not rely on the regular fan for more and more. If there are people willing to give and have plenty for themselves, then I applaud them and I am grateful for their donations as it makes my fan experience better.
It's' not about Lebby though. I think the guy is doing some good things and is learning. Continuity matters and I certainly like the portal hauls they have gotten. Of course we always want more but it's been pretty darn good considering what was out there. Getting a sure fire LT would be a game changer as I think they have enough for everything else even without someone stepping up to the LT role. I didin't think it would be possible to get 2-3 OL starters out of the portal this offseason but I think they have at least 2 now.
Proof will be in the games next year but donate now if you are so inclined as it can only help. I thank those that give now. Thank You
I'll be sure to give $5 so I'm allowed to ***** and moan on here going forward
This makes the most sense. I completely understand that thought process. For me, it doesn't matter how or how wisely they are spending it. They could be getting prime Tom Brady for $15 and I'm still not paying for that. This whole thing is like Wal Mart selling you your groceries then asking you to drop a 20 in the jar on the way out the door so they can pay their employees. Then telling you that if you don't donate, you will not get the groceries or service you need. F that.
I bought a Bulldog Initiative polo a couple of years ago so I’m free to let it rip. **
I was unaware Walmart had tips jars now!
But as for donations? It’s how every other university does it unless we are talking about someone who isn’t successful in athletics.
But selmon does deserve credit bc he is raising money.
Along these lines, St. John’s just fired someone in their athletic dept for embezzling over $1 million from their NIL fund.
How about the schools that are making the millions in revenue off of the players pay the players?
If you step back and look at what is currently going on in college athletics, it is totally insane. These schools are having to ask everyone to dig deeper each year. Now we are at the point where college athletes are opting out of professional drafts to make more money as a college player. At some point, even the millionaire boosters are going to take a step back. You certainly can't expect middle income families to contribute to this indefinitely in addition to increased ticket costs. Something has to be done.
I applaud them. Wish it was this easy to get rid of all people embezzling funds wink wink nod nod
Show me where Mississippi state is making a huge profit MARGIN off their revenue.
Sorry im not like OM claiming cruitin championships. If we are improved on the OL next year I’ll give him credit. But based on last year and his last year at Colorado, I can’t celebrate yet.
Need transparency on dollars in, dollars out, who is giving (corp vs individuals), how that compares to the competition, etc. Make the case that you've milked the corp world / high wealth folks as much as you can and that a little from a lot of people will make us a winner. Then you have a chance at Joe State Fan writing a monthly check...
His only year at Colorado where the line was drastically improved from 2023 and won 9 games? Not his fault Sanders held the ball for 9 seconds and took awful sacks
Again. Kudos for the recruiting if October 15th we see a QB have time to throw the ball I’ll be glad to give him the kudos then. I’m basing my opinion on what I saw on the field.
Because they aren't actually making all this money off the players. That's the biggest fallacy of this whole thing. Journalists have framed this like the universities are these big bad guys but they don't understand that there is no enemy. You cannot put your finger on them, because they don't exist - they are non-profits. Positions turnover, people come and go. The closest thing you pinpoint is the head coaches, because they actually were making millions of dollars. But schools have always depended on donations to fund things, and here recently, TV money.
There was a time where the money coming in was a little more than needed. That's when you saw the gold-plated facilities start being built, and you saw coaches salaries climb. Well......now you have to come up with an extra 20.5M (for now, I'm sure that number will rise). And if you haven't noticed, it's not exactly easy to do with just TV money, which is why they are fundraising so heavily. There's no one making a profit off a stock here.
This huge balloon cost we see now is due to one thing - big boosters trying to buy wins. It sucks, but there's nothing really you can do about that. You can't tell people how to spend their money. This really should have been addressed during the SMU days - why players ever had restrictions on money is beyond me. These terms like NIL should not even exist.....they should have just said "make money if you can". I mean seriously - how the 17 can you tell a person (booster, in this case) he can't give a $5,000 gift to another person (player, in this case)? It's really asinine if you think about it all.
So, back to the schools making money. I honestly think that the rev share cap should have been MUCH smaller, maybe around 5M, and stipends to players should have been equal across the whole team. Then the outside booster NIL, or regular NIL, makes up the rest on a player by player basis. That keeps it all independent, and you have no data leaks like Ole Miss did, at least from the school.
Rev share was just so 17ing stupid. Surely there is some formula they could come up with to justify the rev share based on the TV money, or something. Either way, this really isn't fair to the G6. Oh well, just how it is I suppose, they don't have to pay if they don't want.
Hard to imagine how any embezzling or other fraud could occur considering the openness & integrity of the NIL system and everyone involved. Glad they nipped it in the bud.
That was an analogy.
I’m not saying they don’t. They clearly do. That’s just my take on it. The ones who are making money on it can fund it. I’m not going to. Fine if anyone else wants to.
Yes he does.
If they or others aren’t making enough to pay the players what does that tell you about the business model?
Tells me that it's not the 'business' so many try to say it is.
You are not getting transparency until there is a real salary cap which I don't see happening. No one wants everyone else to know what they are paying to their players. It would be like giving them a menu options and the estimated price of each player.
Agree. I'm just tired of this middle state where everyone is pretending this is some weird state between amateur leagues and pro leagues. Big money is involved. You have to pick one or the other. We are picking pro so structure it like any other respected pro league does.
I am of the opinion players were always paid. Why? I knew players personally and they all got paid, some a lot even by today's standards.
Agree. And I'm not naive enough to believe there wouldn't be under the table payments in a structured world either. I believe that if we want player payments subsidized by the regular fan via NIL collective and outside of traditional ticket sales/rev share, then they deserve to understand the economics of what's happening when the AD asks for 50 bucks a month or whatever.
Boosters will always try to get their program an advantage. Not really concerned with the things that can't be controlled.
Agreed. At the very least offer me one of those portable chairbacks if I buy a season ticket and give to SEF. Or offer me a game entrance to the Gridiron club.
All the man did was ask folks to give. No need to **** all over it with your excuses.
Most of you broke *** f’kers wouldn’t give no matter if Charlie sat you down and went line by line over expenses/income. You just want to complain.
Most of you broke *** f’kers wouldn’t give no matter if Charlie sat you down and went line by line over expenses/income. You just want to complain.
You nailed me. I don't care if Charlie himself cooks me dinner, pours me a bourbon, and massages my feet while his powerpoint slide was presented to me. I won't give a nickel to the $hitshow that is NIL.
WelL dOnT coMpLaIn iF yOu dOnT pArTiCiPatE....... as the kids would say, miss me with that ****.