they're not going to be very good next year. I doubt Henderson returns. The Summers kid is decent, but they won't be able to replace these guys anytime soon.
Don't let our OM friends fool you..
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YelaBear Henderson will realize he is not a super star and only has a chance to go pro forging checks to make mega stacks.
His big man on campus life may be limited also once his ho's, who he claimed via tweeter drive him around so he doesnt get dui's, hand over the Rabbit Foot key chain to his Honda Civic
His big man on campus life may be limited also once his ho's, who he claimed via tweeter drive him around so he doesnt get dui's, hand over the Rabbit Foot key chain to his Honda Civic
They'll be on the bench again, assuming Jones and Cox are back and healthy from their season-ending injuries. Neither are as good as Holloway, but we won't be as bad in the post as this board thinks. Both will be juniors.
This was their best team in years. Let that sink in...
What did they do, won the SEC tourney and one game in the NCAAT...
They will be lucky to be .500 in the SEC. No post presence and lucky if Henderson makes it back..
What did they do, won the SEC tourney and one game in the NCAAT...
They will be lucky to be .500 in the SEC. No post presence and lucky if Henderson makes it back..
The glue of that team was Nick Williams and you do lose him. Summers is a turnover machine. Cox is average at best. Jones was showing promise.
Yea, but you still have the "international incident" for your head coach for at least the next two years, so it makes this choke job that much pleasureable.
If Henderson leaves - OM chances of making the tourney are about like ours for next season. So if I am Kennedy - I would leave now if I could.
Because if he doesn't make the tourney next season - he is right back on the hot seat.
Because if he doesn't make the tourney next season - he is right back on the hot seat.
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Williams was a leader. That can be replaced. Every team has to have a leader step up when the previous year's leaves. Other than that he was replaced by White, who is better in every other phase.
He was second in the league in assist/turnover ratio at 2.2/game. Averaged 1.7 turnvers per game. Your analysis is dead wrong.
Not claiming they are Buckner and Holloway, yet. But much better than Brutus and Perez, both freshmen. The person I responded to didn't even have enough sense to know about Cox and Jones.
All I know is I work with a big Ole Miss guy and he was constantly bitching about Summers. I didn't realize he was the next Chris Paul.
It all depends on how good Buckner and Murph's replacements are.
Those two will be difficult to replace. I doubt Ole Miss finishes in the top half of the SEC honestly, but if we can get some decent production from the interior, an NIT run could be in the mix.
Those two will be difficult to replace. I doubt Ole Miss finishes in the top half of the SEC honestly, but if we can get some decent production from the interior, an NIT run could be in the mix.
Nice deflection instead of just saying you were wrong. You could have taken the 30 seconds it took me to look it up.
Poor Vicky. You are sad over here defending your Fins tonight.
By the way, CBS just called and said to thank you guys for providing another Promo clip for them. If nothing else, you guys won the Championship for "most clips of your team getting heartbroken". Banner?
If I am Kennedy, I enjoy this "magical run" for the next couple days then I am heading to the next mid major that has a vacancy and paying close to what I am making. If I am Henderson, I am signing with any nba team that has any interest in me because that is more money than I could steal or counterfeit in a lifetime.
If this team was a Rick Stansbury coached MSU team there would be ALOT of talk of underachieving.
I don't see how squeaking in with an SECT run is acceptable
For a team led by seniors Holloway and Buckner. They had so much more talent than your typical 10-12 seed. Hell, they won 23 not counting their tourney run, and tied for 2nd in the SEC.
Had they not inexplicably lost to us and USC late in the season, they probably would have ended up in an 8-9 game. Erase their pair of single possession losses in non-con (to NCAA and NIT participants), and their resume on paper is as near as good as Florida's.
Simply put, thank you, Andy Kennedy. I hope you have a long, long career.
For a team led by seniors Holloway and Buckner. They had so much more talent than your typical 10-12 seed. Hell, they won 23 not counting their tourney run, and tied for 2nd in the SEC.
Had they not inexplicably lost to us and USC late in the season, they probably would have ended up in an 8-9 game. Erase their pair of single possession losses in non-con (to NCAA and NIT participants), and their resume on paper is as near as good as Florida's.
Simply put, thank you, Andy Kennedy. I hope you have a long, long career.
Cox and Jones averaged about 7 PPG combined last year
and around 15 PPG combined this year, when healthy, most of which were blowouts where OM scored in the 90s.
But yeah, they're great.
and around 15 PPG combined this year, when healthy, most of which were blowouts where OM scored in the 90s.
But yeah, they're great.
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I found the next 3 years' leader. Cade Peeper.
He may be yet to score a point, but I'll be damned if a white guy named "Peeper" isn't a born leader.
He may be yet to score a point, but I'll be damned if a white guy named "Peeper" isn't a born leader.
Mark me down as ...
Doubt that OM will be anywhere close to as good as they were this year. Henderson is the 'wildcard.' He definitely adds energy BUT is a streaky shooter that takes way too many ridiculous shots. If he doesn’t come back, OM loses 4 of 5 top scorers. (Henderson, Holloway, Buckner & Willimas)</SPAN>
Cox is listed as a JR, so am assuming that he will get a Med RS if you say he will be a JR. Before getting hurt, he played in 7 games averaging 6.3 min; shot 4 of 13 (31%) from the field; 1.6 points per game and 1.1 RB a game. As a FR, he played in 29 games, 8.6 min, 1.6 points and 1.9 RB a game. As a SO, he played in 33 games, 13.4 minutes, 3.2 points and 2.9 RB a game.
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Jones does bring more ... played in 20 games, averaged 16.9 min; 3.5 points and 4.1 RB a game. He’s also a 50% FT shooter.</SPAN>
Brutus played in 27 games and averaged 9.1 minutes; 1.3 points and 1.7 RB a game.
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Perez played in 36 games and averaged 6.8 min; 1.5 points and 1.7 RB a game.
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OM with Summers, White, Milllinghaus & Newby have some reasonable guards BUT where is the inside production? Where is the inside defense? Cox, in his 4[SUP]th[/SUP] year, has never averaged more than 3.2 points in 13.4 minutes. </SPAN>
Doubt that OM will be anywhere close to as good as they were this year. Henderson is the 'wildcard.' He definitely adds energy BUT is a streaky shooter that takes way too many ridiculous shots. If he doesn’t come back, OM loses 4 of 5 top scorers. (Henderson, Holloway, Buckner & Willimas)</SPAN>
Cox is listed as a JR, so am assuming that he will get a Med RS if you say he will be a JR. Before getting hurt, he played in 7 games averaging 6.3 min; shot 4 of 13 (31%) from the field; 1.6 points per game and 1.1 RB a game. As a FR, he played in 29 games, 8.6 min, 1.6 points and 1.9 RB a game. As a SO, he played in 33 games, 13.4 minutes, 3.2 points and 2.9 RB a game.
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Jones does bring more ... played in 20 games, averaged 16.9 min; 3.5 points and 4.1 RB a game. He’s also a 50% FT shooter.</SPAN>
Brutus played in 27 games and averaged 9.1 minutes; 1.3 points and 1.7 RB a game.
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Perez played in 36 games and averaged 6.8 min; 1.5 points and 1.7 RB a game.
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OM with Summers, White, Milllinghaus & Newby have some reasonable guards BUT where is the inside production? Where is the inside defense? Cox, in his 4[SUP]th[/SUP] year, has never averaged more than 3.2 points in 13.4 minutes. </SPAN>
They're also both true freshmen who weren't supposed to see nearly as much time as they did and they weren't ready. Perez will be fine I think by the time his junior year rolls around.
Ole Miss being excited about Cox returning is like State fans bragging about Wendell Lewis returning. Lewis will average 5.5ppg and give us around 6.5 boards per game. Cox will be about the same. He may score a little more.
Every AD in America looking for a coach will notice that he didn't call a timeout with 2.5 seconds left to set up a play at the end of that game yesterday. Or that he let Henderson shoot 15 threes yesterday when he had a dominant and unstoppable front line. If they worked through the post every possession, they would've beaten LaSalle handily.
I always kinda thought Kennedy was a decent enough coach, but I never really watched him that closely to know for sure. I saw enough just in that LaSalle game. Ole Miss had some horses this past year, and they should've been much better than they ended up being. They should've made the tourney easily as a higher seed. They clearly underachieved. And then, when the planets aligned to almost assure them a real shot to make the Elite Eight, he let them down. It was, dare I say, Stansburyesque. But to be fair, at least Stansbury had the common sense to run his offense through the post when he had a dominant post player.
I agree.. I never felt like OM established much of an identity, and good teams could dictate pace and style to them. Doesn't usually work out very well.
If we had kept Rick, and we had the season they had (the draw, the bracket setting up for a deep run, the talent), there would be ALOT of people calling for Stansbury's job this morning.
If we had kept Rick, and we had the season they had (the draw, the bracket setting up for a deep run, the talent), there would be ALOT of people calling for Stansbury's job this morning.
Where would Henderson go?
Do kids go to the Turkish league early now?
Surely no one here is dumb enough to think he's headed to the NBA.
He's a hobo's Jimmer Fredette. Ask the Kings how that is working out.
Do kids go to the Turkish league early now?
Surely no one here is dumb enough to think he's headed to the NBA.
He's a hobo's Jimmer Fredette. Ask the Kings how that is working out.
When you guys keep saying stuff like "if he leaves", where do you think Henderson is going to go? Europe? If so, then there's at least a chance of that actually occurring. If you're talking about the NBA, though, it just ain't happening. There's a reason that you can't think of any player in the league that he reminds you of... He's undersized, he hasn't even come close to proving that he can run an actual offense, and his passing skills are unproven(which is pretty important for a guy that would be playing PG in the league). For those thinking about JWill, they may be similar in personality, but people forget that Williams was a very good ball handler and assist man too.
This isn't a knock against Henderson. He's a very good college player and he's better than anyone that we currently have on the roster, but this guy will never see an NBA roster.
This isn't a knock against Henderson. He's a very good college player and he's better than anyone that we currently have on the roster, but this guy will never see an NBA roster.
reminds me of Jayson Williams that came from florida. And him in a turkish league might lead to a turkish prison.....ouch.
I think the general assumption is that he would try to catch on in Europe somewhere. I can't see how anyone could think he's an NBA prospect. He's really not all that good of a college player. At least not anywhere near as good as the hype. He's a mediocre shooter who takes WAY too many shots, and that's his strength.
As of now Henderson returns. Nobody knows the future, at least not on here. But as of now, he's returning. We have a 4* center coming in that we beat Memphis St. for. We also have 2 good international players coming in. One was said to be a good player by Gene. So if he says we got a good one, then he must be good.