Donte' Stallworth sentence

Coach34

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the guy basically jumped in front of his car- didnt see him coming when he was hurrying to catch a bus...Stallworth didnt flee the scene and has been completely cooperative
 

futaba.79

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I would be truly sorry too. Just like Stallworth, I would stop, call 911 and own up to what I did.</p>

In the end, I would go to jail for several years.</p>
 

Bdog9090

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but, Stallworth said that he flashed his lights in an attempt the warn the guy that he was there driving. The problem I have is, why didn't Stallworth just stop instead of flashing his lights?

I don't really care about the sentence, it is about what I expected it to be.
 

seshomoru

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There's also that lifetime license ban. That seems reasonable to me in lieu of jail time. Along with the monetary restitution and community service, it sounds fine.
 

gtowndawg

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There's also that lifetime license ban

Imagine how hard your life would be if you couldn't drive for just a week much less for the rest of your life. I wonder if that includes a motorcycle license as well? At least you could get around on a motorcycle.
 

dbb49

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Bdog9090 said:
but, Stallworth said that he flashed his lights in an attempt the warn the guy that he was there driving. The problem I have is, why didn't Stallworth just stop instead of flashing his lights?

I don't really care about the sentence, it is about what I expected it to be.
but I thought the story was a little unclear as to whether the guy was actually in the road yet at the time Stallworth flashed his lights. He might have been near the edge of the road, and Stallworth might have flashed him expecting the guy to see, stop, and wait. Perhaps a more detailed account is out there, but I don't plan to look.
 

seshomoru

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In the Jackson Metro area with a normal job? It would be impossible.

He seemed to try and do right by the family. He offered the money and took some pretty significant penalties in lieu of jail time. Yes, a man is dead. But if the victim's family agreed to this, feels Stallworth is truly apologetic, and agrees with the penalties then I say ok. Putting him in jail for ten years would just ensure that he's going to commit another crime ten years from now.
 

Bullyfan87

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My problem with this is that anyone other than a NFL star would have gotten 10 to 15 years, regardless of whether they were apologetic or not.
 

MSUCostanza

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He can hire a driver.

I agree with Sesh. If the victim's family agreed to this, then who are we to say it's too light of a sentence? If it's reasonable for the people affected most, then it ought to be ok for us, I would think.
 

ArrowDawg

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Bullyfan87 said:
My problem with this is that anyone other than a NFL star would have gotten 10 to 15 years, regardless of whether they were apologetic or not.
That's pretty much my point. I'm glad he didn't hit and run, and I'm sure he's truly sorry, but I honestly believe that an average Joe like you or me would be going away for much, much longer. Money talks.
 

patdog

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While Stallworth was legally drunk, it's not like he was shitfaced drunk. And the victim was probably at least as much at fault as Stallworth was. Trying to cross a busy street in traffic is just not a good idea at all. I know (or knew) a guy who got killed doing the same thing several years ago. As others have pointed out, if the victim's family is OK with it, who are we to argue with them?
 

ScoobaDawg

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it is only acceptable to the family because of the money settlement.
That is bribery and corruption of the justice system at its best..
The common person would not get that same deal.
 
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And as for the license ban...do you really think he'll stop driving?

I mean, drunk driving is not allowed. Running over people with your vehicle isn't allowed either.

I'd love to know how much money this guys family gets from this. Blood money.

What is the dollar amount for "justice?"
 

seshomoru

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ArrowDawg said:
Bullyfan87 said:
My problem with this is that anyone other than a NFL star would have gotten 10 to 15 years, regardless of whether they were apologetic or not.
That's pretty much my point. I'm glad he didn't hit and run, and I'm sure he's truly sorry, but I honestly believe that an average Joe like you or me would be going away for much, much longer. Money talks.
Well, it's either his money paying the victim's family or our money locking him up for 10 years to just have him get out and probably commit more crimes. Priviledged? Sure. But I think it's a decent result given the other options.
 

Shmuley

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I must assume you also believe ...

1. That there really is such a thing as a "federal" or "national" driver's license;
2. That the jurisdiction of Miami-Dade extends beyond the boundaries of the State of Florida;
3. Ol Drunkte' doesn't have a license to drive in any state but Florida.

He may have some trouble trying to get a license in another state at this point and going forward, but he ain't "banned" from driving anywhere but Florida.
 

saltybulldog

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Stallworth has cooperated from the beginning. Vick lied to authorites and was completely uncooperative. Stallworth's actions indicate that he was in fact remorseful and was willing to accept the punishment. Vick knew he did something wrong and wanted to run from it. While it is very difficult to accept the penalties when straight comparison between human and animal life in this case it makes some sense.
 

dawgstudent

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I know someone that killed another person while driving drunk. The family of the person that he killed said he can provide a lot more to society as a free man than someone locked behind bars. He is just a normal guy.
 

Xenomorph

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"Awe, man.. he just killed a couple of dogs."

Yep. He did. And he also had a very expensive house set up to run a highly illegal gambling, dog fighting ...and truth be told, I bet to some extent a drug operation.

Then he lied about it and tried desperately to cover it up for months which forced our 17'ing federal government (which you and I pay for) to spend untold millions in investigative research and prosecution to put a stop to it.

Are you telling us Vick didn't get what he deserved?
 

DerHntr

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i have an old family friend who killed someone when driving drunk over 30 years ago. he spent several years in jail. it was in michigan. to this day he can't get a driver's license in Mississippi or anywhere for that matter. trust me, he has tried constantly to get one in mississippi and to get michigan to drop the ban. his wife dropped him off at work and my dad gave him a ride home for years. finally he started his own shop as a machinist at his house so that he didn't have to depend on everyone all of the time.</p>
 

Shmuley

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from this point going forward. However, I have to assume he has a valid license already in another state (Ohio or Tennessee or Massachusetts or Pennsylvania or Louisiana or his home state of California).
 

DerHntr

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when i moved from MS the state of KS cut my MS license in half. i guess it was because i was claiming residency? **** i have no idea. just passing on the story about my dad's friend and his troubles that were similar.
 

graddawg

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The Full Faith and Credit Clause can definitely be used to revoke any existing license. The question is will anyone go to trouble to see that it is done.
 

graddawg

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Some, but not all, states ask if the address for the new license is for a second (or more) residence. If the answer is yes you get to keep your existing license.
 

DerHntr

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but i would have been lying so that wouldn't be very easy to explain to the game warden. oh well.