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Wouldn’t Moreno Y2 > Moreno Y1 ?
No one appears to be interested in how this compares to the rest of the SEC and that’s a major problem. The conference is stacked and we may not even finish in the top 8.
How do you persuade yourself to give CMP a 4th year if he finishes outside the top 4 for a 3rd straight year?
Even if he managed to somehow make it to the Sweet 16, assuming he makes the tournament at all, he has still not shown he’s capable of competing in the SEC. That would be extremely troubling.
How do you persuade yourself to give CMP a 4th year if he finishes outside the top 4 for a 3rd straight year?
Even if he managed to somehow make it to the Sweet 16, assuming he makes the tournament at all, he has still not shown he’s capable of competing in the SEC. That would be extremely troubling.
So waiting to see what
So you think the fan base has that much power? Mitch gave another stupid contract so no matter how many people complained Pope was always going to get a 3rd year. Look at all of the people in the media and even the Governor bitching but guess what Pope is still the coach.Let it ride! Those of us who know the sport and the goings on around it, warned everyone as early as last late December, we were headed for this situation if Pope was retained for another season!
We pleaded, we begged for people on the fence to listen, but in the end, the portion of the fan base who don’t give two chits about the future of the program, and only support the coach because he represents the underdog, got what they wanted…
Well, I want you all to watch every damn second of every game next season, as you remember, this is what you wanted, so I hope you all enjoy watching your underdog coach get humiliated for 15+ games!
I’ll be watching real basketball being played down I-64, until this 3 Ring Circus called UK MBB gets sorted out, and back on track…
If the damage done, isn’t too insurmountable
Still supporting your team though adversity isn’t “accepting mediocrity” it’s understanding that you as a fan don’t have control and you’re very delusional to think otherwise. So I will watch every minute of every game and I will still renew my season tickets. That just means I’m a fan and just like through the Tubby years I’ll complain about the coach but still support the team.
I agree but that’s not what THIS thread is about. There’s about a hundred others to make that point in.
lol that’s some massive homerism to think Wilkins is or could be better than Oweh. That kid will get broken doing things Oweh did
Man going in the last year I know you were freaking calling for that to be a title team top five team. I mean all you do is sunshine pump man and then you talk like youre part of the program. I’ve listened to your sunshine, pumping about our roster since the season ended you said these guys are gonna commit on this day and nothing happens. You just given opinion in the form of a statement like you know what you’re talking about.. telling people that their posts are pointless.
I like Kam over Chandler and Wilkins and Diallo collectively add more playmaking.
If you still believe mid major transfers aren’t any good you obviously haven’t been paying attention to college BB. Kobe Brea? Remember him? If you don’t like these players due to fit or talent fine, but this mid majors are trash argument is BS and needs to die. I don’t care if Wilkins came from a D3 school the kid can play. Those stats from a freshman PG are very good regardless of the conference.
I disagree.
Zoom is = Aberdeen, if not slightly better. Too soon to know for sure.
Wilkins may not be the finisher Oweh was, but he seems to appear more well-rounded, so that may be an =
Kam (next year) may be = or > Chandler (last year), also too soon to tell. Kam last year was > Chandler 2 years ago
McBride won't be our starting PF, he was brought into for the Almonor role.
Moreno (next year) > Moreno (last year) that's just common sense (at least 90% of the time it happens that way)
i must have watched a different kam Williams and a different Collin Chandler than a lot of people on this board did. So a sophomore CC was light years better than a sophomore Kam Williams. But junior Kam is going to be better than a Junior CC would have been?
Potter or the dude from USC most certainly aren't better than BG...and I HATED BG.
And, to be fair, both of those lists are seriously better than the current list.
We had a player from Deleware???
And we just left Wake off the two years ago list.
Dude wears me out with his cluelessness.
Junior year Chandler isn’t an option. Also I put Chandler against Wilkins. Oweh was the 3 guard last year.
It doesn't matter really, Last year was bad and this year is going to be bad.
List the players retained that improved under Pope. List the players that didn't. I think you can at least see the concern that Moreno doesn't take a noticeable step forward. Plus, the S&C isn't exactly setting the world on fire and that was probably MM's biggest hurdle. If he looks the same in his uniform in year two as he did year one, it's an issue. I'm not ready to say definitively one way or the other, but again, that's more of a sign of coaching incompetence than anything.
IDK year 3 of Garrison was no better than year 2, so id say its not a guarantee he will be better.
A dude that average equal or less numbers at FURMAN than Owek did at UK. I swear, there's a reason the backup QB is always the best player on a crappy football team. This is the level this board has gotten to, forcing ME to defend freaking Oweh. Unreal.
Your smartness does not lie in basketball. Stick with your day job.
Oweh and Chandler for sure. I’d say Aberdeen and Amari the year before last coming from other schools. Brea probably fits there too.
How many of those starters for Michigan transferred from a mid major? Oh and how about UCONN they have a team full of mid majors.
Well tell me what the problem with this is, You say this and don't follow up with anything. If you think we will be improved next year be ready for disappointment.
finally someone saw the same thing that I saw.
That was the whole damn problem with the team. Aberdeen catches the ball, Aberdeen stops looks at the defense for 10 seconds, Aberdeen waits for the defense to set , Aberdeen drives into traffic in the meantime Oweh throws his hands up can’t believe he’s not getting the ball. Aberdeen shoots, Oweh watches the ball miss, Oweh watches the ball bounce off the rim until it hits the floor 5 feet away. Oweh “oh crap the balls right there“ Oweh watches the opposing player run past him to grab the ball.
Anybody that says they didn‘t see that multiple times is either a liar or blind. Possibly both.
Only Yaxel. But they did get Goldin and Wolf the year before.
I don’t think guys coming from P4 schools improve much when transferring laterally. Mara and Oweh are the exceptions really.
We’ve only gotten one such transfer in Diallo thus far, which is a problem
I'm not saying you cant take some mid major players, but you cant have a whole roster full of them.
Maybe I misspoke. I'm good at that according to my wife. I don't word well.
Year1...Under Pope
Year 2...Under Pope
Players that got better?
Players that didn't?
Agreed. I think he COULD be. I also think he COULD be far, far worse.
It's wild to me for someone who's probably, at the very most, seen this dude play one game against UConn and then just say, yep...he's going to be better than the best player UK has had the last two years. And that dude they're anointing played at effing Furman.
He also "dropped"...
- 11 points on High Point
- 10 points on N. Iowa
- 10 points on Ohio Christian
- 8 points on Elon
- 5 points on Bob Jones
- 8 points on Chattanooga
- 7 points on Mercer
- 8 points on VMI
- 8 points on the Citadel
Ansley Almonor's per 40 average his last two seasons at FDU weren't far from Wilkins numbers last year at Furman...with about the same level of competition. Try to process that sentence.
No, you are not comparing apples to apples. This lead post was saying we are downgrading from last year to this year, comparing last season's starters to next season's starters. So then you must compare last year's CC to next year's KW. Of course we don't know how good KW will be next year. We do know is a much better defender than CC. So the best comparison we can make is how good CC was the year before this past season (his FR year) to how good KW was the year before next season (his Soph yr).
There were games where BG was quite good, but also many games where he was bad or basically invisible. BG was a BAD rebounder both seasons at UK.
Do I think Potter will be as good as BG? Probably not. But I do think it is possible for him to be like Handlogten was for UF, and close to BG level
No. A teenager would say a player sucks, because he plays for a smaller school. Like the poster i was originally replying to.
Based on that logic, Oweh is probably better than Steph Curry and Larry Bird.