Dr Lou and Mark May both think that USC should be national champions.

DawgNsuds

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is that the Big 12 was over rated, much like the Big 10 has been in the past. It also shows that the Pac 10 was somewhat under rated. SC is definitely better than Oklahoma and should have played Florida last night.
 

Shmuley

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to stir the BCS pot to keep the masses clamoring for a playoff. Sure suits the networks motives to keep the **** flying about the shortcomings of the BCS.
 
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the Big-2 (Texas & Oklahoma), and the PAC-1-1/2 (USC & Oregon[?]). the rest of the conference got pulled up by the way the very top of the conf's were steamrolling people. the SEC basically had 2 good teams this yea (UF & Alabama & OM counting as a 1/2 each).
i agree that UF/USC would have been a MUCH more enjoyable game to watch, though.
 

RebelBruiser

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Fewest points scored in a game: 24 in the national title game
Most points allowed in a game: 31 in the Ole Miss game
Second most points allowed in a game: 21 in the LSU game

Essentially, with the exception of the game against us, their offense scored more points in every game individually than their defense allowed in any individual game.

It's hard to lose games when your offense never scores fewer than 24 and your defense never allows more than 21. That's what I find the most impressive. Only once all year did their defense allow enough points for a team to consider outscoring their offense. Unfortunately for them, that one game ended in a loss.

Another impressive stat, every game they played was decided by 10 points or more, outside of their one loss. On top of that, 11 of their 14 wins were by 23 points or more.
 

Xenomorph

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Essentially, with the exception of the game against us, their offense scored more points in every game individually than their defense allowed in any individual game.

Really, Sherlock? You've done research that shows Florida ESSENTIALLY outscored every opponent except Ole Miss? Damn.... you might want to think about starting your own think tank or applying to NASA. You is a genius.
 

The Big Slick

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Essentially, with the exception of the game against us, their offense scored more points in every game individually than their defense allowed in any individual game.

So, let me make sure I have this clear in my mind.

ESSENTIALLY, When a football team's offense scores more points than it's defense allows, it wins the ballgame.

ESSENTIALLY, Florida's offense scored more points than it's defense allowed in every game, except for one.

So Florida, ESSENTIALLY, won every game, except for one.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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Especially in any one game playoff situation. So why should this faulty system be the place where that is a major criteria? Underdogs win games and knock "better" teams out all the time.

I now think more than ever that they should go back to the traditional bowls and let the voting happen and have split National Champions when it is as murky as this year has turned out.
 

RebelBruiser

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You missed the point obviously:

Outside of the game against us where they gave up 31 points, the most points they allowed all year was 21. The fewest points they scored all year was 24.

So with the exception of the 31 points they allowed to us, every other offensive performance they had this year was more than their defense allowed in any single game.

Example: You can win two games by scores of 10-7 and 31-17. You're undefeated, but your defense in game 2 gave up more than your offense scored in game 1. So technically, your defensive performance in Game 2 would not have been good enough to counter your offensive performance in Game 1. In 14 of Florida's games, there was only one time their defense gave up enough points where their offense even had a chance to be outscored.

I'm a statistics guy, and this is the range of points scored in Florida games this year:
3, 5, 6, 6, 7, 10, 10, 14, 14, 15, 19, 20, 21, 24, 26, 30, 30, 31, 31, 38, 42, 45, 49, 51, 56, 56, 63, 70

Florida scores are in bold. Florida opponent scores are not. Maybe that illustrates my point better. There was only one time all year where they gave up enough points to outscore any of their offensive performances on the year. And that one performance only outscored 4 of Florida's offensive performances on the year.

For another example, Utah went undefeated, but 9 of their opponents scored more than Utah's worst offensive performance of the year (13 points). For Oklahoma, in 14 games, their worst offensive performance was 14 points against Florida. They gave up more than 14 points in 10 of their 14 games. In 14 games, only one of Florida's opponents scored more than Florida's worst offensive performance (24 points). I can see where the way I phrased it before didn't make as much sense. I hope this clears up what I'm saying to show how dominant Florida was on the year.
 

msudawg12

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USC may be a great team and may be able to beat most teams right now but thats no excuse for the fact that they played a cupcake schedule and are having to pay for it. Granted, Ohio State wasn't expected to be a lesser team when they played them. ButVirginia and Notre Dame were both crappy games as well.

Pete Carroll was quoted saying that he didn't think any team in the country would want to play them and that they can beat anyone. That may be true, but if it is then go ahead and schedule those games and this wouldnt even be up for argument
 

muddawgs33

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Usc only played 6 bowl teams and their combined opponents records was 74-77. Oklahoma played 8 bowl teams and their opponents combined record was 94-60 with an 0-12 Pac-10 team on their schedule. Florida played 10 bowl teams and their opponents combined for a 93-63 record. Oklahoma played 2 BCS bound teams while Florida and Usc played 1 each. The Big 10 went 1-6 in Bowls, so Usc's win over Penn State is not that impressive to me. Now don't get me wrong, I think Usc has a great team, but to say they deserved to be in the National Championship game over the 2 teams who played tougher schedules is ********. To me, Texas is the only team that has an argument, because they beat Oklahoma. Fact is, if Usc would have taken care of their weak *** schedule, then they would have been in the National Championship game, so they didn't deserve anything.
 

uscreb

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With the exception of the Ole Miss game, you could take their worst offensive game and match it up with their worst defensive game and they would still be on the positive side of the ledger.

Some teams will post very high scoring averages because they beat up on lesser teams, but have pretty high defensive scoring averages because their defenses suck. Texas is a good example of this. Their season average was 42.2 ppg against 18.8 allowed. If you take out their one defeat, the range of ppg was 24 to 56 against their opponents range of 7 to 35. This means their worst offensive effort was 24 points and their worst defensive effort was 24 points. Missouri (31pt), OSU (24pt), and OKL (35pt) all scored equal to or greater than Texas' worst offensive effort. Had Texas had a sputtering offense (hard to concieve of 24 points as sputtering, but I think you get the drift) on the days that they played these three teams, they would have been 0-2-1 against them.

Surely, it is statistical minutiae, but an interesting exercise nonetheless.
 

MrHooch

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RebelBruiser said:
You missed the point obviously:

Outside of the game against us where they gave up 31 points, the most points they allowed all year was 21. The fewest points they scored all year was 24.

So with the exception of the 31 points they allowed to us, every other offensive performance they had this year was more than their defense allowed in any single game.

Example: You can win two games by scores of 10-7 and 31-17. You're undefeated, but your defense in game 2 gave up more than your offense scored in game 1. So technically, your defensive performance in Game 2 would not have been good enough to counter your offensive performance in Game 1. In 14 of Florida's games, there was only one time their defense gave up enough points where their offense even had a chance to be outscored.

I'm a statistics guy, and this is the range of points scored in Florida games this year:
3, 5, 6, 6, 7, 10, 10, 14, 14, 15, 19, 20, 21, 24, 26, 30, 30, 31, 31, 38, 42, 45, 49, 51, 56, 56, 63, 70

Florida scores are in bold. Florida opponent scores are not. Maybe that illustrates my point better. There was only one time all year where they gave up enough points to outscore any of their offensive performances on the year. And that one performance only outscored 4 of Florida's offensive performances on the year.

For another example, Utah went undefeated, but 9 of their opponents scored more than Utah's worst offensive performance of the year (13 points). For Oklahoma, in 14 games, their worst offensive performance was 14 points against Florida. They gave up more than 14 points in 10 of their 14 games. In 14 games, only one of Florida's opponents scored more than Florida's worst offensive performance (24 points). I can see where the way I phrased it before didn't make as much sense. I hope this clears up what I'm saying to show how dominant Florida was on the year.
but you're still a douche. hehe sorry couldn't resist.
 

llmsudawg

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USC can suck it... Big 12 and SEC both have their best two teams square off every year to decide who is the conference best. I personally don't think USC was better than Oklahoma or Florida, but don't be fooled, USC is fine and happy to play a home game in a bowl every year and keep saying "we shoulda" and "we woulda".