Dude on Gene's free board saying Garrett to MSU....

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Dollabillz

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may be nothing, but it's a slow Saturday in the dog days of summer.
 
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may be nothing, but it's a slow Saturday in the dog days of summer.
 

TR.sixpack

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"local tv station reports..." Which is to say, don't hold your breath. May be true, may not.

At this point, I don't care one way or the other. He's even less of spread-option QB than Russell is, but he's a big kid with a strong arm. If there is anything we learned from Sylvester Croom it's the importance of depth at QB.
 
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I disagree with everyone about this whole "Mullen needs a running QB" myth. A QB is a QB, his job is to get the ball to the playmakers, whether the offense is a spread, west coast or whatever. You run something suited to your talent. All offenses can benefit from a running QB. But that particular QB still has to be able to throw.

My proof? Auburn at the beginning of last year. As Chris Todd went, so did Auburn. And supposedly Malzahn needs a runner too. Mitch Mustain disagrees with that.
 

TheStateUofMS

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Dollabillz said:
I disagree with everyone about this whole "Mullen needs a running QB" myth. A QB is a QB, his job is to get the ball to the playmakers, whether the offense is a spread, west coast or whatever. You run something suited to your talent. All offenses can benefit from a running QB. But that particular QB still has to be able to throw.

My proof? Auburn at the beginning of last year. As Chris Todd went, so did Auburn. And supposedly Malzahn needs a runner too. Mitch Mustain disagrees with that.
I agree with you and was actually going to use Auburn as an example. Mullen is recruiting Rivers hard. He can run an effective offense with out a spread option QB. I think that may be his ideal QB, but Mullen will ADAPT players to fit his offense. If a Shotgun stand-still in the pocket QB is the best available, he will take that. If a 4.45 speed QB with okay passing ability is the best available, Mullen will take that and mold the offense around him.<div>
</div><div>We saw a lot of option because Lee was somewhat mobile, and we had a horse of a RB and Lee couldn't pass for ****. Now Relf should be serviceable in the passing game, but he's still fast so we will see a lot of spread option type plays, but the passing attempts should pick up. I look for us to be about 55-45 run pass. Mullen as said he wants to be as balanced as possible.

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DirtyLopez

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we have a spread offense made for a dual threat QB and all of a sudden we have fairly highly rated out of high school "pocket passers" coming out of our ears. And before Mullen and the spread, we couldn't buy a QB. This is some kind of a cruel joke.
 

patdog

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the fact is he got cut at LSU after just 2 springs and 1 redshirt season. You don't get cut that soon unless you're causing a lot of problems or you suck. And I haven't heard anything about Garrett being a trouble maker. Odds are, he wouldn't help us much no matter what offense we run.
 

TullyBlanchard

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I guess I can see where a pocket passer can work in Mullen's offense. If the qb reads the defense crashing in at the point of hand off, he releases to the rb. If they don't crash in, then he keeps the ball and doesn't have to run. Just make an accurate throw. Which is what we lacked last year.
 

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patdog said:
the fact is he got cut at LSU after just 2 springs and 1 redshirt season. You don't get cut that soon unless you're causing a lot of problems or you suck. And I haven't heard anything about Garrett being a trouble maker. Odds are, he wouldn't help us much no matter what offense we run.
Is he any worse than Relf at that point in time? Mullen has trained Relf into a decent QB. Just saying .......
 

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why didn`tMiles release him to any school? I don`t think the kid is the next Peyton Manning but maybe he was just flat unhappy at LSU and Miles had to follow up on a promise he made in the recruiting process. I know I`m unhappy when I go to LSU. At the time he signed LSU was THE place to go in the SEC , MSU was THE place to avoid. He did what dozens of others did and stayed away from the goofball known as Slytanic.
 

patdog

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That is just so dumb I don't quite know where to start. But here goes:

1. Do you really think that at the same time Garrett is going around saying that God told him to go to LSU, he's telling Miles that the only way he'll go there is if Miles will promise to release him to MSU in 18 months if he doesn't like it?

2. If Garrett is leaving LSU because he was justunhappy there, then why did he wait until AFTER Milestook his scolarship away? And why would Miles have taken his scholarship away in the first place? Hell, he was in 1st sememster summer school (which is optional) when he found out his scholarship wasn't being renewed. Doesn't sound like he was too unhappy to me.

3. Fair or not, it's just standard operating procedure than when ANYONE transfers out of your program you block them from transferring within the conference. There are exceptions but not many.

4. While I'm sure that one reason Garrett decommited from MSU and committed to LSU was that he realized Crxxm was possibly the worst coach in the country, he had time to change his mind after we fired Crxxm and hired Mullen. But he didn't. And don't give any "he was already committed to LSU and felt like he had to honor his committment" ********. He proved a couple of months earlier that he had no problems at all with going back on a committment.
 

patdog

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Miles didn't renew Garrett's scholarship, so Garrett asked for his release. He asked Miles to please not block him from transferring to MSU since he'd grown up such a big MSU fan, and Miles agreed.
 

thatsbaseball

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and why doesn`t every kid at every school get a chance to transfer to their second choice if it doesn`t work out for them where theysigned ?

Garrett had some kind of leverage other than just being an MSU fan. Either Miles was afraid of recruiting ramifications down the road for not keepinga promise to Garrett or having Garrett being used as an example of what can/will happen to you if you signat LSU or Miles was just following up on a promise he made to the Garretts or something but it ain`t as simple as you make it sound.</p>
 

57stratdawg

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patdog said:
Miles didn't renew Garrett's scholarship, so Garrett asked for his release. He asked Miles to please not block him from transferring to MSU since he'd grown up such a big MSU fan, and Miles agreed.
Miles doesn't consider Garrett to be a threat at all at MSU (apparently because he's not very good), and granted him a release to MSU.

Seems pretty cut and dry to me..
 

Coach34

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he's kicking him off the team- thats why he is releasing him to State. Had Garrett initiated this- no way Miles releases him
 

patdog

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If Garrett had any kind of leverage on Miles, there's no 17ing way Miles wouldn't have renewed his scholarship. And there's no way Miles was promising him while recruiting him that he'd release him to MSU if things didn't work out. It really is as simple as it looks. And Miles figured this was a just a way to help a good kid out because he knows Garrett will probably never play for MSU.
 

mstatedawgs

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why do we want a reject 4th string qb from LSU. yeah, i wouldn't have wanted my kid to play for Croom's O either, but if he was that good he would be making a name for himself in baton rouge, which he's not.

maybe we could use him to hold a clipboard, or be a good scout team qb. it'll be interesting to see how this goes down.

hell, he may come in and blow the doors off the qbs we have now.