***DUKE VS LOUISVILLE OFFICIAL GAMEDAY THREAD***
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Tough loss against a team playing against 7 guys. I have not seen a more physical game in college basketball this year! Anyway, on to the Florida State.
Derryck going out crushed Duke; the full court pressure was difficult for the rest of the guys, and forced Grayson to be the primary handler, exhausting them before they even crossed half court. Regardless of the L, I am cised to see Thornton try to take the game over at the end (and he was fairly successful considering the injury).
This team is tough-as-nails. They can beat anyone if they keep playing like this. The ACC tourney will be tough with the lack-of-depth, but the NCAA tourney should be somewhat better with the 2 games in a 6-7 day span.
This team is tough-as-nails. They can beat anyone if they keep playing like this. The ACC tourney will be tough with the lack-of-depth, but the NCAA tourney should be somewhat better with the 2 games in a 6-7 day span.
I still can't believe they didn't call a foul on the play that Thornton was injured on.
No way you can be upset with this team right now. It would have been nice to win, sure; but we have been fighting like heck and came out looking pretty good in the win column after this 4 game stretch.
Just a couple of random things..
1. Marshall Plumlee has become so much better and tougher throughout this season. Wow.
2. Thornton is going to be really, really good next year.
3. The ACC is tough.
4. I may catch some flack for this, but I really really wish Grayson would quit with the constant head flails.
Just a couple of random things..
1. Marshall Plumlee has become so much better and tougher throughout this season. Wow.
2. Thornton is going to be really, really good next year.
3. The ACC is tough.
4. I may catch some flack for this, but I really really wish Grayson would quit with the constant head flails.
K didn't like it. http://www.goduke.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?id=5058924&db_oem_id=4200
Echo some statements, no way in hell anybody should be complaining. Heck, I had to labor to get up for this game emotionally, let alone the pkayers. They were more then ready, the limitations just took toll. I'm way over it... I still suspect we will be full staff for the UNC game
Said the call on Grayson wasn't close. He never said anything negative, so avoids blowback, but was clear the call sucked. He handled it like a 5 time champ.
I had to take off right after the game and just got back. So glad to read the positive feedback! Just a couple of my takes from this game:
1. I'm not one to complain about officials, but that was a complete joke. They (officials) actually lost their composure, or their eyesight.
2. The game was finally decided in the stretch that DT went out with injury/then the absolutely hilarious fifth foul on Grayson (are you kidding me)!
3. These kids have come so far, and I have no doubt that they are "for real". Gutsy, and will battle until the end. Grayson is an absolute "All-American"!
4. Probably getting tired of hearing me say it, but damn, I love these Kids! Oh yeah, It's gonna be OK!
Go Duke!!
JC-OFC
1. I'm not one to complain about officials, but that was a complete joke. They (officials) actually lost their composure, or their eyesight.
2. The game was finally decided in the stretch that DT went out with injury/then the absolutely hilarious fifth foul on Grayson (are you kidding me)!
3. These kids have come so far, and I have no doubt that they are "for real". Gutsy, and will battle until the end. Grayson is an absolute "All-American"!
4. Probably getting tired of hearing me say it, but damn, I love these Kids! Oh yeah, It's gonna be OK!
Go Duke!!
JC-OFC
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I Really like players like Grayson Allen who hate to lose and will fight to the end. You can tell that everyone on this team looks to him for leadership. I would like to see a little more in Ingram as he has more talent. The T on Allen and coach K didn't bother me at all today. Got to go there sometimes OFC
At the time of the technical call on K, I thought at the time that he was purposefully doing it so he could blame the loss on himself, rather than the players who busted their balls all day. I think he saw the loss coming at that point.
OFC
I think he was pissed at the big change in how the refs were calling the game.
The technical against Coach K didn't really bother me because he hasn't gotten a technical in awhile that I can remember so I just chalked that technical up to him probably saying a little more than he usually says to the refs but in my opinion I think the technical against Grayson was ridiculous because he was frustrated after picking up his 5th foul, yeah he yelled out "that's f'n bs" but it wasn't like he ran up to the ref and yelled it in the refs face, so to me, by the ref hitting him with a technical was basically saying that he wasn't allowed to get frustrated after fouling out
Honestly Brandon might have had the worst game I've seen a duke player ever have. But as stared he's young and gased. He'll get it right
Allen lost it, but I don't blame him. I also don't blame the ref for T-ing him up. I can read lips, and Allen was over the line. So it goes.
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Looking through today's game stats I noticed something that I'm not sure I remember seeing happen before, Grayson was our only player to score in double figures in today's game. That's a definite sign that fatigue is catching up to us with having such a short rotation.
Grayson lost his cool. He absolutely should have gotten the technical foul.
I agree. Although if you're an official and you blow a call that badly, you probably deserve whatever the player yells at you. Some just awful block/charge calls today...anyone who watched UK-TAMU knows what I'm talking about.
I agree with the head flails, and after tripping the guy last meeting with Louisville, and his overall aggressive attitude this game, I honestly believe he needed a good elbowing to the face to come back down to planet earth, he's been doing this crap for a few games now and if I'm being real here, it's on my damn nerves. He constantly goes for flops and plees to the ref like he should be invincible. Sorry, I love the kid just as much as everyone else and he is one of my favorite players to wear a Duke uniform, but damn man enough is enough.
I liked about everything he said there. The haters will call it sour grapes, but even with his opinions on how the game was called he still gave credit where it was due.
Thanks for posting that.
Enough was enough by the first comma of your post. You ready for your elbow to the face?
I'd like to see Grayson and that guy who elbowed him go at it with gloves on and a ref. That would be fun.
The fact that a UK poster is the only like you received on above post should tell you something about it. He is indeed one of my favorite players and I don't think he needed an elbowing of any kind on that play and I want him to change nothing on his aggressive attitude. He is the heart and soul of this team and I'm sure his teamates agree. He is the type of player that always has your back. I'll bet Carolina wishes they had someone with Graysons backbone and aggressive attitude! OFC
I'm sorry you disagree and I also understand that when you're a fan of something you tend to not look at the bad things as much, but he really does try to flop too much. Doesn't change how I feel about him what so ever, it's just obvious when he does it.
I'm only post once in response to this trolling -- but I can't even fathom what's being said about "flopping." I'm not sure if I've seen Grayson get a charge call in a month, and whatever you want to say about his driving -- there is no flopping on his drives. You can accuse him of initiating a lot of the contact that leads to foul calls -- but there's indisputably a lot of contact created when he goes to the rim. And, to the extent there is any exaggeration, it is no different than virtually every high-level guard who makes a living driving to the rim-- and far less than guys like Marcus Paige, Russ Smith (a couple years ago), etc. etc. If you think Grayson is a flopper, you (i) have no idea what you're talking about, and (ii) you certainly don't respect his game in the way I do. Quit the trolling.
My biggest frustration with the game was how we handled the press.
1. We seemed to walk back to throw it in giving Louisville PLENTY of time to get the press set.
2. No one seemed know what they were suppose to do -- whoever needs to throw it in GET THERE fast.
3. Put a pick on the defender of Plumlee and let Plumlee run down, throw a long pass and get a layup. It seemed to work once.
Cannot understand HOW we could not break the press!!
My only other frustration was the lack of composure -- really just a mental meltdown.
The bright side is that the team has a lot of drive and heart. Even in the loss of their composure, I did not see them give up -- bad calls (and there were plenty) and all.
1. We seemed to walk back to throw it in giving Louisville PLENTY of time to get the press set.
2. No one seemed know what they were suppose to do -- whoever needs to throw it in GET THERE fast.
3. Put a pick on the defender of Plumlee and let Plumlee run down, throw a long pass and get a layup. It seemed to work once.
Cannot understand HOW we could not break the press!!
My only other frustration was the lack of composure -- really just a mental meltdown.
The bright side is that the team has a lot of drive and heart. Even in the loss of their composure, I did not see them give up -- bad calls (and there were plenty) and all.
I think there were two culprits. One, Ingram -- who was a critical part of our gameplan for beating the press a couple weeks ago -- just didn't seem to have the requisite energy and focus. Hence, 10 turnovers. I think that was a huge issue. Two, I'm sure we almost certainly didn't have the energy to have any kind of real practice in advance of the game.
As for the "meltdown" point, I don't buy that at all. The game really turned against us when foul trouble forced us into a zone defense (that has been regularly torched all season) + thornton getting injured, which forced us into a big lineup with Jeter and Plumlee that we've basically never played all season. It's hard not to ignore those major issues. I really wouldn't take much from that game other than the fact that injuries to important player / fatigue got the best of us.
You claim to be a duke fan and " you love Grayson as much as anyone" yet say you are glad one of our boys caught a hard elbow to the face.
You are a fraud and we all see it clearly. He's not perfect but he's our own and you stand with him in the tough moments or screw off. K caught a T and screams at refs for a call every game but he's still our coach and you can stand with him or take a hike. You can do the later.
Every Duke fan thanks you for adding to an overplayed notion that all he does is flop. There are plenty of people over at THR that would love to have this conversation with you.
It's not ALL he does, I've just seen him do it a decent amount. Once again - it doesn't change how I feel about him at all, I love his winning mentality and I agree whole heartedly he drives like a mad man, but the head flailing really is something he does.
Stuff like this.
How can you say such negative things about him and follow it up with it doesn't change how you feel about him? You said he deserved an elbow to the face. Apparently that's how you feel about him.