I've said all along the ACA needs to be modified, but congress has to do it and never did. Once the GOP has a plan that passes, then we can talk about alternatives to it. In the meantime, nobody's gonna waste their time because what they say now and what is passed are likely to be very different.
During the campaign (which apparently is still going on) Trumplethinskin said fixing healthcare ....
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Let's review. BO and a Dem congress got the ACA passed. If the Dems controlled congress now, they would have likely been looking to make some changes to improve it but they are not in power. Seeing as "the left" passed the ACA, why would they be looking for an alternative? make some changes? likely but not replace it. Beyond that I really don't know what you're talking about.
We also did nothing to lower healthcare costs. Nothing to incentivize healthier living. Did away with the death panels.
That communist Michelle tried to get kids to eat better in school. How'd that go over in the Fox news crowd?
See where Melania's big cause will be cyberbullying awareness and prevention? She needs to start with that bully she married.
One or two programs were introduced at my work place over the last several years but not sure of their origin or whether they were associated with the ACA.
I vote to let it die on the vine. After that, just go single payer. Only way to make it work the way the country is demanding.
They hire outside consultants to administer/oversee the programs. The big, all encompassing program is called Healthy Tomorrows and a smaller program is called Work it Out. I work for the state. HT required us to name a primary care physician then get some basic blood work and consultation. The other program checked out BMI and checked to see if we could meet some physical standards of aerobic/strength capability.
Pay higher premiums and maybe some other punitive measure, can't remember. HT was pretty much required, the other program was purely voluntary but I'm up for any kind of free blood work, health evaluation, etc.
Realistically, I don't know. I don't have the answers, and don't care to. Personally, I think everyone should be responsible enough to buy healthcare coverage. I also think there shouldn't be catastrophic limits or refusal due to pre-existing conditions. I think the kids to 26 on parent't health care is retarded and counterproductive to teaching responsibility for one's self. I'm not a complete bastard, and even though I believe a failure to plan accordingly on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on mine, I acknowledge we can't just have old people dying off due to no coverage even though financially, it's probably better if they do.
I heard something interesting yesterday that made some sense to me with regards to healthcare and Medicare. The person advocated for lowering the eligibility age for Medicare, but raising the retirement age minimum to 70 for those born after 1970. This would get healthier people into Medicare earlier while they are still paying but using fewer of the services, and extending retirement age keeps workers funding the program longer.
Then after beginning health coverage on Medicare, employers would take them off of their main program and offer supplemental programs from the same insurer. So for the employer it strikes a balance for the health package they offer by having the higher risk employee, 60 and older, off of their coverage and on to Medicare, but they become gap members; not as needing of services under Medicare as a much older population but still paying into the system to support the older and sicker crowd already retired.
I'm sure it also has some issues, but I thought it had some merit.
Can I begin to explain to you how bad extending people into their 70s for retirement would be? Most of those old fvcks are so lost in today's workplace that they are more of hindrance than a help. Sure, if you need some tribal knowledge, or consulting, they can be useful. Individual contributors at that age are pointless and cost too much. Would rather take someone fresh out of the military or a recent college grad.
I agree.....thats about the only sensible thing you have said in weeks.
I don't think they meant today's 70, these would be people born 1970 and later, they're 47 now, and that would be the Social Security minimum. I forgot to add that.
So people planning properly for their own retirement, hopefully all of them, might retire sooner but not collect.on SS until 70.
You must be hanging around some really downtrodden folks, most of the 60 to 70 year olds.I know can work circles around most of the whipper snappers.
I thought it was passed as the solution to our Health care problems moe? Why does it have to be "fixed" if it was offered as the panacea or solution to what ailed us in Health care delivery services?
It certainly wasn't sold as needing any "fix". No Republicans were allowed to offer any changes that might have improved it. Now we have what it's become after running for six years, and by any objective analysis, it's an overall abject failure.
So I'm not sure what the Left is so upset about? The American people had a chance to decide if it was working for them. An election was held in part as a referendum on it (that's what Obama said) and it was rejected. So why is the Left now upset that folks want something different, if not better?
Absolutely NOT RPJ. Just as big of a cluster f*ck as the "VA"...worse even. I'd try allowing Americans, who can figure out which restaurants to eat in, which stores to shop at, and which houses to buy on their own...figuring out how to purchase and fund their own health insurance.
A Market works every time it's tried, Government screws it up every time it's allowed.
Oh I do understand you have a difficult time following me countryroads89, which is why when I ask you to defend your Leftist ideology you normally just vaporize. So many questions I've asked in this forum for you to elaborate on, and all I've ever received as a response is so much "white noise" silence. (or your default name calling)
Here's an example:
I've asked you to explain to me how a 'personless' fetus ostensibly with no 'rights' under our Constitution is considered a murder victim if it is killed by a criminal who also attacks its Mother and kills her in the process? The criminal is charged with double murder. (Mother and the Baby)
I've been waiting for your response to that question for nearly 3 months now, and all I get from you is anger over how I always bring up Abortion! But I honestly want to hear your answer, how is this possible?
Yes, you get frustrated over my constantly bringing up Abortion but it's in part because neither you nor anyone else on the Left has ever answered that question countryroads89, especially after YOU in particular promised to "destroy" me in one of our Abortion debates when it came up.
More recently, I asked you a question about the Left's alternative to the "penny plan" to reduce our annual deficit spending. I asked you to cite for me the Left's proposed plan to reduce our massive & wasteful Government debt which stands as an acceptable, popular & superior alternative plan to that one Trump is proposing. (I asked you many other questions in that particular post which you have yet to answer also)
I've asked you to explain to me how inner city kids supposedly deprived of proper education funding in failing Public schools are able to achieve tremendous academic success in Parochial or Private charter schools in those very same neighborhoods, often times with even less funding through school choice vouchers?
You have yet to respond to me on ANY of those very answerable questions, and you post I rarely make sense countryroads89?
Really?
I am so hard to understand or so "out there" with my posts that you have no answers to my questions to you? You can't just easily dismiss my idiotic questions with at least one quick simple short answer exposing my off base assumptions?
Deconstruct me countryroads89... surely it should be easy for you to do after your claim to have superior intelligence enough to categorize me as "stupid". Or at least you claimed I don't realize how dumb I am? OK, you're right. So prove it!
Why don't you educate me countryroads89, or just put me in my place...or maybe back on "ignore" like you've done in the past presumably because you simply can't handle being called out by a supposedly "stupid" Negro. That's been your typical response to me (which is actually quite racist...a charge you love to hurl around about Trump btw), or you simply refuse to engage me as you've been practicing...dismissing me as ordinarily "dumb" or impossible to decipher.
THAT tells me more than anything else you can ever suggest about my lack of mental acuity or your own self aggrandizing racially motivated air of superiority... the classic definition of a "racist" which I honestly believe you are countryroads89.
Nothing speaks more effectively to me than your ongoing silence, and it's obvious to anyone I render you muted.
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RPJ do you know how many more Americans have also lost their Health care Insurance since the ACA went into effect?
Either through unaffordability or being summarily dropped by their Insurers, it's just as many millions who gained Insurance.
https://ballotpedia.org/Health_insurance_policy_cancellations_since_Obamacare
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-in-obamacare-to-lose-plans-as-insurers-quit