EDIT: Losing because of Wimsatt

RU05

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GS has 1 single goal each game- win. Could you imagine if he decided to put it in the air 25 times when Indiana could not stop the run? This game was about them realizing their QB sucked and they really could do much against us. So- the plan became, just do not let them touch the ball.
Ya, I was alluding to this in my posts above. I don't think Rutgers came into this game thinking they would only throw the ball 12 times for 39 yards. But when Indy can't stop our run game and then we go up multiple scores, the plan changes.

I think half of the 12 throws came on the drive before half time. Why? Game situation dictates you have to throw the ball there.

Our last pass attempt came with 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Why? Because at that point we let our successful run game do it's thing and milk the clock. Literally no need to throw the ball at that point.

If the game played out in a way which made more sense to throw the ball more we would have, it didn't, so we didn't.
 

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I would say winning when the QB is 5/12 for 39 yards is the definition of winning despite the passing game.

I'd say it's more the definition of winning because of a dominant run game.

Your comment would make more sense if the pass game was a hindrance, which it wasn't.
 
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I played football in HS and at RU and won a HS state championship as an OC. But yeah, I’ll defer to RUBOB72.
Yet you still posted “crap throw after crap throw” even though three of his incompletions were dropped and one was tipped “

I would think someone with your football playing and coaching experience wouldn’t post such an imbecilic comment as that, knowing why four of his incompletions occurred.
 

rureadyforsomefootball

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Don't know if you missed it but he claims to be a former RU football player in this thread. I called BS on that post because most RU athletes carry themselves much differently and he has a long history of toxicity on these boards.
There's another 'ex Rutgers football player" that carries himself the same way.
 

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Yet you still posted “crap throw after crap throw” even though three of his incompletions were dropped and one was tipped “

I would think someone with your football playing and coaching experience wouldn’t post such an imbecilic comment as that, knowing why four of his incompletions occurred.
just watched the every throw- he had 3 clear drops on very good passes. he had one pass he just threw through the endzone and he did get bailed out once by Benjamin. Yeah- had that one that was tipped but can't give him that one- so let's say the Benjamín catch wipes out 1 drop. That means his total should have been 7-12.

I am sure the coaches saw this too- the decision not to throw in the 2nd half was not an inditement on GW.
They looked at the game- Indiana could not stop our run game. Our RB's do not fumble and we had the lead. Why would you throw it?
 

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just watched the every throw- he had 3 clear drops on very good passes. he had one pass he just threw through the endzone and he did get bailed out once by Benjamin. Yeah- had that one that was tipped but can't give him that one- so let's say the Benjamín catch wipes out 1 drop. That means his total should have been 7-12.

I am sure the coaches saw this too- the decision not to throw in the 2nd half was not an inditement on GW.
They looked at the game- Indiana could not stop our run game. Our RB's do not fumble and we had the lead. Why would you throw it?
Given it was all of 4 minutes, I watched twice.

Thought it was funny to see that last pass with 4 minutes to go in the 3rd.
 
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DJ Spanky

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People do realize there were 3 drops don't they? 8-12 looks way better than 5-12, although having said that, yes, he threw some bad balls, and needs to improve his accuracy

Sadly people don't. At least one of those was right on the money, he put it right in Langan's hands. But 2-3 of his passes really, really sailed, he needs to calm down and put more touch on those passes.
 

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Now, you're being vindictive. You're digging deep to justify your hate for Wimsatt. Without Wimsatt running, this team is not 6-2. Simon might be a better passer, but his lack of running would not have prevented Rutgers from winning a game or two. Rutgers is winning because they are playing to their strength. The passing game takes longer to develop, and a lot depends on the play calling, route running, chemistry between the receiver and QB, and the development of the players. Let's not forget Wimsatt is on his 3 OC in his short career. Even Nova struggled under the same circumstance.

Is Wimsatt a solid passer? No, but he has executed the game plan perfectly, resulting in a 6-2 record. You have failed to realize that this team is run first, run second, and pass only to keep teams honest. Wimsatt's total TD to TO ratio is superior to most on that list of FBS top passers, which is critical to our success. Throwing for 10,000 yards but 30 INTs defeats any chance of winning in most cases. But hey, that doesn't matter when you completely dislike someone. Why can't you enjoy the win and the season as a whole? Unless you're not really a Rutgers fan. That is possible as we see more fake fans on this site because they can't fathom the fact that Rutgers may be better than their real team. Rutgers has a way of bringing the worst out of haters.
Great post. Wish I could like it 1000x...
 

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I know there is a lot of negativity about Wimsatt but I am very happy with how well he has executed the game plan so far. I get people not wanting to think about his downsides, but I look at them as an opportunity to make our team even better (not a reason to say he sucks). If he can work on the passing and get to the next level there, then we will have a great shot at having some close games and maybe even upset wins to close out the rest of the year. The danger of our play style is if Monangai goes out, then the game plan basically goes out the window -- really like the other RBs but they are not the same presence as KM -- so getting more confidence in the pass game is going to pay dividends, just in case we need it on down the road, regardless of whoever has to play at QB for a pass-first offense. Hopefully we won't be in that situation though.
 

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I played football in HS and at RU and won a HS state championship as an OC. But yeah, I’ll defe

I played football in HS and at RU and won a HS state championship as an OC. But yeah, I’ll defer to RUBOB72.
So, as long as you brought it up. Why don't you post your stats ( as a RU player??!!) and let us evaluate your performance while you were here. Maybe you do have some insight or maybe you were just a bust and are now bitter!
 

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SCOREBOARD
All about the scoreboard passing game took a back seat to the running game. It's all good GW, KM and SB at the end ran the ball like beasts.
If IU didnt gift us 10 pts GW's 80 yard gallop would have been the winner. Offense needs balance against the 4 remaining teams to have a chance. Maybe not against Iowa but the other 3 offenses that can put pts on the board 55 runs isn't going to happen or cut it. Need to move chains thru the air as well
 

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All about the scoreboard passing game took a back seat to the running game. It's all good GW, KM and SB at the end ran the ball like beasts.
If IU didnt gift us 10 pts GW's 80 yard gallop would have been the winner. Offense needs balance against the 4 remaining teams to have a chance. Maybe not against Iowa but the other 3 offenses that can put pts on the board 55 runs isn't going to happen or cut it. Need to move chains thru the air as well
if?

Fact is GW took it to the house. IU didnt give it to us. He took it to the house because he made the right read and made a defender miss then had the speed to score.

GW gives us that threat which other teams needs to prepare for.
 

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if?

Fact is GW took it to the house. IU didnt give it to us. He took it to the house because he made the right read and made a defender miss then had the speed to score.

GW gives us that threat which other teams needs to prepare for.
What are you talking about??? We blocked a punt scored 7pts. They muffed a punt return 3 pts. 10PTs. Nowhere in there did I say anything negative about GW's 80 YD run. It was impressive and huge beast play and would have been the game winner. Am I missing something
 

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Gavin only had 2 bad passes that went incomplete. The others were dropped or tipped. They just didn’t call many passing plays because we were moving the ball running, including Wimsatt who had a bunch of yards on the ground that are just as important as passing yards.
 

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Speaking of Saturday players, a 4* QB with RU and Buff offers went Buff. Not that it matters to me because I don't put much focus on recruiting, stars etc = especially on QBs and OL (seen too many 4* busts and 2* heroes)




This thread has nothing to do with Deion or Colorado and you still can't help but verbally fellate him. 🤣

Can the Mods keep the Deion content to the Deion thread? Ashokan maybe take a cold shower.
 

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So, as long as you brought it up. Why don't you post your stats ( as a RU player??!!) and let us evaluate your performance while you were here. Maybe you do have some insight or maybe you were just a bust and are now bitter!
Closest he's ever gotten to a Rutgers playing Field.
 

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15 of 25 (60%) instead of 10 for 25 and we’d have had a shot at beating the number #1 team in the country.

Our QB has the worst completion percentage among D1 starting QBs in the country.
 

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I was referring to his passing skills-skills that we will need in November.
I edited the title of my prescient post.

Today was a day that we needed our QB to make a difference; with a tired D and an ineffective running game.

Wimsatt couldn’t do it,

He has had 2 seasons of opportunities. He’s just not getting it done.

Time to get a bridge QB via the portal next year.
 
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I edited the title of my prescient post.

Today was a day that we needed our QB to make a difference; with a tired D and an ineffective running game.

Wimsatt couldn’t do it,

He has had 2 seasons of opportunities. He’s just not getting it done.

Time to get a bridge QB via the portal next year.
blaming GW because he couldn’t bailout a bad run game and OL?
 

Jtung230

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No. He’s the one guy holding back tge offense. The guy with tremendous run ability. Even announcers said so. He needs to make up for his arm accuracy with his legs. Didn’t at all. Not even close.
GW is playing with a lot of caution. I think that’s coaching. They don’t want him to take chances because we think the run game and D can keep us in it.
 
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So, you are blaming him for this loss because his season stats are bad.
I am blaming the HC for playing him and not having a competent QB What n the team. Gavin is a great young man, accountable, and hard working but D1 QB he is not
 

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You’re simply parroting group think. None of that is why we lost yesterday. We lost because we couldn’t run the ball and took too many dumb penalties.
No did my own homework and it’s factual. I use my eyes to tell me what i am I seeing. Then I go back and look at the numbers and statistics. He litterally the worst QB in all of football in completion percentage and after yesterday 2 nd to last in yards. Just facts! He is also not a good runner let alone great. He lost yesterday because the HC and OC got embarrassed and the young man isn’t talented enough to play QB
 
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No did my own homework and it’s factual. I use my eyes to tell me what i am I seeing. Then I go back and look at the numbers and statistics. He litterally the worst QB in all of football in completion percentage and after yesterday 2 nd to last in yards. Just facts! He is also not a good runner let alone great. He lost yesterday because the HC and OC got embarrassed and the young man isn’t talented enough to play QB
The fact is he won 6 games and we’re going bowling. Those are the facts that matter.
 

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No did my own homework and it’s factual. I use my eyes to tell me what i am I seeing. Then I go back and look at the numbers and statistics. He litterally the worst QB in all of football in completion percentage and after yesterday 2 nd to last in yards. Just facts! He is also not a good runner let alone great. He lost yesterday because the HC and OC got embarrassed and the young man isn’t talented enough to play QB
He's had a QBR of under 30 in 4 of the last 5 games and in all 5 games he was under 50% passing. Funny how they went silent on QBR when it no longer worked in their favor when discussing Gavin.

This is another Art situation where fans don't want to accept the truth because of HS rankings. The red flags are there smacking everyone in the face.
 

Jtung230

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He's had a QBR of under 30 in 4 of the last 5 games and in all 5 games he was under 50% passing. Funny how they went silent on QBR when it no longer worked in their favor when discussing Gavin.

This is another Art situation where fans don't want to accept the truth because of HS rankings. The red flags are there smacking everyone in the face.
Would it surprise you if I told you his QBR was over 100 by the end of 3Q?