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Stick Kitty

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They changed that recently to April 1 and it will be open for 30 days. So now it's after NCAAs

Which IMO- If Beth acts. All the ducks would need to be lined up between NCAA's and April 1st so they could take advantage of that momentum. Ducks being the right head coach and some money backers.
 

Tiltman

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I think Lehighs coaching staff should be fired.
How dare they send Crookman to an open and he gets hurt out for the season. Darn no good coaches letting a wrestler wrestle when there was a possibility of injury.
WOW, good job providing one example from a team, while Iowa has a laundry list of injuries year in and year out. You really proved a point with that one lol
 
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IndianaHawk98

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WOW, good job providing one example from a team, while Iowa has a laundry list of injuries year in and year out. You really proved a point with that one lol
I think it’s odd that Iowa is painted as the only team who is littered with injuries. As if the rest of the playing field hasn’t been littered with injury bugs.

Injuries are much more common in today’s day and age. You’d be a fool to stick to a narrative that Iowa is the only banged up team.

Just a glimpse of teams through the year(s):

Iowas State Last Year: Younger B., Casey Swiderski, Anthony E., Connor Euton, and Evan Beckmann ended his career hurt.

Penn State Last Year: Aaron Nagao, Josh Barr injured. Though Josh Barr thugged it out, he was clearly hurt and banged up.

Lehigh this Year: Luke Stanich was banged up, Crookham injured, and Caden Rodger’s out due to injury.

NcSt. This Year: Jackson Arrington, and Daniel Zepeda out due to injury.

Stanford - Lorenzo Norman and Hunter Garvin both out due to injury. Plus, Nico Provo just finally getting healthy.

I could be typing for so much longer if I included more history. Let’s not be foolish and think Iowa is the only ones who have injury bugs. I know everyone hates Iowa; but much more kids are getting hurt and injured compared to the old days. This is not just an Iowa thing.

Whether through practice or while competing, kids are getting injured. Maybe due to the style they wrestle or other contributing factors.
 
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In Pennsylvania here we have plenty of local farms that do sell the meat and it's amazing. I put it right up there with the prime stuff you get from snake River Farms. I'm sure if you live in Iowa you could find some small farmer who sells to the local locals and it's some really good stuff.
I live in an Ag heavy county in MD. Plenty of farm coops where one can buy into a steer.
 
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chipackhawk

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Really? My take is the program is heads and tails over everyone in every way. Including nutrition , training , restoration and recovery , and psychology .

And if you don't think Dan's lads were juicing back in the day prior to ncaa testing you're nuts.
Steroids were rampant in the 80’s. It most certainly wasn’t just Iowa.
 

kingstown

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I think it’s odd that Iowa is painted as the only team who is littered with injuries. As if the rest of the playing field hasn’t been littered with injury bugs.

Injuries are much more common in today’s day and age. You’d be a fool to stick to a narrative that Iowa is the only banged up team.

Just a glimpse of teams through the year(s):

Iowas State Last Year: Younger B., Casey Swiderski, Anthony E., Connor Euton, and Evan Beckmann ended his career hurt.

Penn State Last Year: Aaron Nagao, Josh Barr injured. Though Josh Barr thugged it out, he was clearly hurt and banged up.

Lehigh this Year: Luke Stanich was banged up, Crookham injured, and Caden Rodger’s out due to injury.

NcSt. This Year: Jackson Arrington, and Daniel Zepeda out due to injury.

Stanford - Lorenzo Norman and Hunter Garvin both out due to injury. Plus, Nico Provo just finally getting healthy.

I could be typing for so much longer if I included more history. Let’s not be foolish and think Iowa is the only ones who have injury bugs. I know everyone hates Iowa; but much more kids are getting hurt and injured compared to the old days. This is not just an Iowa thing.

Whether through practice or while competing, kids are getting injured. Maybe due to the style they wrestle or other contributing factors.
Everybody has injuries. Iowa does seem to bring guys back where other teams shut them down for the season.
 

Trapper85

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I think it’s odd that Iowa is painted as the only team who is littered with injuries. As if the rest of the playing field hasn’t been littered with injury bugs.

Injuries are much more common in today’s day and age. You’d be a fool to stick to a narrative that Iowa is the only banged up team.

Just a glimpse of teams through the year(s):

Iowas State Last Year: Younger B., Casey Swiderski, Anthony E., Connor Euton, and Evan Beckmann ended his career hurt.

Penn State Last Year: Aaron Nagao, Josh Barr injured. Though Josh Barr thugged it out, he was clearly hurt and banged up.

Lehigh this Year: Luke Stanich was banged up, Crookham injured, and Caden Rodger’s out due to injury.

NcSt. This Year: Jackson Arrington, and Daniel Zepeda out due to injury.

Stanford - Lorenzo Norman and Hunter Garvin both out due to injury. Plus, Nico Provo just finally getting healthy.

I could be typing for so much longer if I included more history. Let’s not be foolish and think Iowa is the only ones who have injury bugs. I know everyone hates Iowa; but much more kids are getting hurt and injured compared to the old days. This is not just an Iowa thing.

Whether through practice or while competing, kids are getting injured. Maybe due to the style they wrestle or other contributing factors.
I lean towards this view as well. And I will probably stay there until someone disproves with a very thorough quantification of injuries in NCAA wrestling using an objective and meaningful rule of what constitutes "injury". Easier said than done unless the criteria is simply "lost for season before Natty's". And even if it were to pan out that Iowa has more injuries, it's the least of my concerns at the moment.
 

TheREALSpooner

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I think it’s odd that Iowa is painted as the only team who is littered with injuries. As if the rest of the playing field hasn’t been littered with injury bugs.

Injuries are much more common in today’s day and age. You’d be a fool to stick to a narrative that Iowa is the only banged up team.

Just a glimpse of teams through the year(s):

This is a woefully incomplete analysis of the situation and you should be embarrassed for trying to use the data presented as evidence of anything.

Only if he gets a medical. Elam already proved he can beat him.

Well, yeah. Of course it’s about next year. He can’t wrestle for another D1 team this season.

Id love to hear your 6 step injury prevention program. Maybe it'll be so bold as to recommend they dont wrestle? Tard

One idea might be to adopt modern training techniques instead of living in the 90s. Call me crazy.
 

IndianaHawk98

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This is a woefully incomplete analysis of the situation and you should be embarrassed for trying to use the data presented as evidence of anything.



Well, yeah. Of course it’s about next year. He can’t wrestle for another D1 team this season.



One idea might be to adopt modern training techniques instead of living in the 90s. Call me crazy.
lol, how long have you been on this forum/Hawkeye report and still offer absolute nothing to this board.

You are by far the biggest troll against your own fan base. It makes me to believe you troll because you have no good take to offer for the rest of the fan base.

lol, plus the data that was provided carried no inaccuracy. Injuries are much more common than the past And if you were locked into the rest of the wrestling world you would know this is a common topic that wrestling fans talk about.
 
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AndreTheHawk

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Mo was the difference between winning and losing tonight. He would have torched their 97.
I would have thought our supposed stud 197 recruit could record one F'ing takedown to beat a 30th ranked wrestler with the F'ing dual on the line, at Carver. But nope. 😡

Ya know, there was a time when Iowa's backups, up and down the lineup would piss pound 30th ranked wrestlers. Now the majority of our starters can't get one takedown. This is what the Iowa Wrestling version of rock bottom looks like.
 

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Ya know, there was a time when Iowa's backups, up and down the lineup would piss pound 30th ranked wrestlers. Now the majority of our starters can't get one takedown. This is what the Iowa Wrestling version of rock bottom looks like.
I’m sorry for my negativity, but it’s time for a leadership change within the wrestling program.
 

kingstown

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He was to hurt to wrestle according to him🤷. So he wouldn't have been out there regardless
You know that isn't true. He was too injured at that time. He would have been wrestling by now. It is obvious you haven't talked to Mo. I like how you throw hurt in place of injured as a way of saying he should have just wrestled through the injury. You often know much of the inner workings but I think you are asking the wrong people the wrong questions (to quote Brands) when it comes to the Mo situation.
 

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You know that isn't true. He was too injured at that time. He would have been wrestling by now. It is obvious you haven't talked to Mo. I like how you throw hurt in place of injured as a way of saying he should have just wrestled through the injury. You often know much of the inner workings but I think you are asking the wrong people the wrong questions (to quote Brands) when it comes to the Mo situation.
Really wish both sides could have figured something out. Left the team with a huge hole at 197 regardless of who's fault it was. BS isn't beating anybody and HL is not ready either. Last night is what happens when you wrestle backups at 1/3 of the weights. Iowa just doesn't have the depth anymore to be successful doing that.
 

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Really wish both sides could have figured something out. Left the team with a huge hole at 197 regardless of who's fault it was. BS isn't beating anybody and HL is not ready either. Last night is what happens when you wrestle backups at 1/3 of the weights. Iowa just doesn't have the depth anymore to be successful doing that.
Gabe Arnold is our depth. Credit to him for stepping up wherever they need him.

I hope he gets to spend his last couple of years at 174 and let the chips fall where they may.
 

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I would have thought our supposed stud 197 recruit could record one F'ing takedown to beat a 30th ranked wrestler with the F'ing dual on the line, at Carver. But nope. 😡

Ya know, there was a time when Iowa's backups, up and down the lineup would piss pound 30th ranked wrestlers. Now the majority of our starters can't get one takedown. This is what the Iowa Wrestling version of rock bottom looks like.
If you wrestled with that vaunted Heavyweight coach that turns every heavy that walks through our doors into an instant title contender, oh wait, we have Bob Telford. At least we only pay him like $50K a year.
 

el dub

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lol, how long have you been on this forum/Hawkeye report and still offer absolute nothing to this board.

You are by far the biggest troll against your own fan base. It makes me to believe you troll because you have no good take to offer for the rest of the fan base.

lol, plus the data that was provided carried no inaccuracy. Injuries are much more common than the past And if you were locked into the rest of the wrestling world you would know this is a common topic that wrestling fans talk about.
So, shouldn’t our opponents be experiencing roughly the same illness ratio and resulting consequences?
 

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It makes sense now on how it could have and eventually did put both sides on edge. Obviously, Iowa wanted Mo for this season with plans to go Ludington next season. If Mo decided quickly after the injury that he wanted to go for a 🏥 year, I could see a quick disagreement if there were differing opinions on the severity.

I get how Mo had to decide what is best for him and I get why Iowa would sever ties. No matter how they both dealt with it, neither side really wins…
 

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It makes sense now on how it could have and eventually did put both sides on edge. Obviously, Iowa wanted Mo for this season with plans to go Ludington next season. If Mo decided quickly after the injury that he wanted to go for a 🏥 year, I could see a quick disagreement if there were differing opinions on the severity.

I get how Mo had to decide what is best for him and I get why Iowa would sever ties. No matter how they both dealt with it, neither side really wins…
Congratulations dumb ****
 
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This is a woefully incomplete analysis of the situation and you should be embarrassed for trying to use the data presented as evidence of anything.



Well, yeah. Of course it’s about next year. He can’t wrestle for another D1 team this season.



One idea might be to adopt modern training techniques instead of living in the 90s. Call me crazy.
What are those modern training techniques going to do for someone hurting their ankle in a match? Or dislocating fingers in a match? Please, I beg you, enlighten me.
 

Slim45

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It makes sense now on how it could have and eventually did put both sides on edge. Obviously, Iowa wanted Mo for this season with plans to go Ludington next season. If Mo decided quickly after the injury that he wanted to go for a 🏥 year, I could see a quick disagreement if there were differing opinions on the severity.

I get how Mo had to decide what is best for him and I get why Iowa would sever ties. No matter how they both dealt with it, neither side really wins…
Actually Mo probably did win given that he made $ this year from Iowa while still preserving eligibility and then will get paid elsewhere next year.
 

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What are those modern training techniques going to do for someone hurting their ankle in a match? Or dislocating fingers in a match? Please, I beg you, enlighten me.

Probably nothing. But you did a nice job cherry picking. So there’s that.
 

Slim45

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I doubt he’s seeing this situation as a win, bruh. He was dismissed from the team for being hurt and may or may not have been paid what he was promised.
Regardless he still got paid something for this year and maintained eligibility to get paid again next year elsewhere. So he’s very likely going to make more $ than if he just finished out this year. If he had no chance at any kind of redshirt and this was for sure his last year of eligibility, would’ve been interesting to see if this played out differently
 

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When does he put in for med redshirt and do teams generally offer pending the outcome or wait for the decision before making an offer? Other thing, do universities now have their own medical staff examine a wrestler before any offer (with $ in the mix)?