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As long as the epstein files are relased NLT the day before inaguration day in 2028 this administration will have done way more than the Biden administration so I'm still happy.
JFK files dropping tomorrow morning. I bet the Epstein files won’t be far behind. The People are demanding it.
 
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Seems like the CIA was involved to me.
Seems like Oswald was a Soviet sympathizer. CIA was tracking him on his Mexico trip where he visited a bunch of commies and bragged about wanting to kill Kennedy.

Mafia and the CIA were likely pissed at Kennedy. Kennedy failed to deliver Cuba with the bay of pigs fiasco. The Mafia was pissed about that, then the Kennedy's went after Hoffa, that pissed them all off even more. Kennedy was very aware of how much power and international influence t he CIA had and he definitely criticized them, a lot. Lots of motivations all over the place, no actual factual documentation released that changes any narratives.
 

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Seems like Oswald was a Soviet sympathizer. CIA was tracking him on his Mexico trip where he visited a bunch of commies and bragged about wanting to kill Kennedy.

Mafia and the CIA were likely pissed at Kennedy. Kennedy failed to deliver Cuba with the bay of pigs fiasco. The Mafia was pissed about that, then the Kennedy's went after Hoffa, that pissed them all off even more. Kennedy was very aware of how much power and international influence t he CIA had and he definitely criticized them, a lot. Lots of motivations all over the place, no actual factual documentation released that changes any narratives.


Just curious, you aren't suggesting the same will happen in the Epstein case? Just asking because this is the Epstein thread.

The government, unequivocally, knows who Ghislaine trafficked those girls to.
 

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Just curious, you aren't suggesting the same will happen in the Epstein case? Just asking because this is the Epstein thread.

The government, unequivocally, knows who Ghislaine trafficked those girls to.

Based on what? Honest question since I really don't know. You stating that the Government unequivocally knows seems like a stretch.
 

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Based on what? Honest question since I really don't know. You stating that the Government unequivocally knows seems like a stretch.
1) Common sense - If you prosecute someone for trafficking women, then logically those women were trafficked to someone.
2) The women's testimony. Listen to their words.
3) The pictures of FBI agents carrying multiple boxes of electronic equipment and VHS video tapes out of his sex dungeon building on Little St James Island.
4) The testimony of the woman saying she saw the room with the video surveillance equipment.
5) Understand the tools the NSA has. They know everything.

I don't think there is anyway to conclude the investigators didn't know who the men customers were. They prosecuted a women and sent her to jail for life. Who were the customers?
 

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1) Common sense - If you prosecute someone for trafficking women, then logically those women were trafficked to someone.
2) The women's testimony. Listen to their words.
3) The pictures of FBI agents carrying multiple boxes of electronic equipment and VHS video tapes out of his sex dungeon building on Little St James Island.
4) The testimony of the woman saying she saw the room with the video surveillance equipment.
5) Understand the tools the NSA has. They know everything.

I don't think there is anyway to conclude the investigators didn't know who the men customers were. They prosecuted a women and sent her to jail for life. Who were the customers?
What you 'know' and what you can prove in federal court are two different things. Thats how the justice system works.
I don't think the JFK files released were anything ground breaking, I think the Epstein files will be the same. The CIA didn't release its transcripts from its first discussion with new President Lyndon Johnson for example. Why did Johnson keep the same Cia director? Why was the Warren commission allowed to conclude only one gunman, based on single bullet/magic bullet BS theory. Its ridiculous. Everyone should at this point understand there was not a single gunman, physics wont allow for it


Anyway, the CIA is still not sharing all their documents. Which is ofcourse, not surprising.
I 100% believe the CIA is hiding embarrassing facts in the JFK and Epstein cases. Epstein was 100% a CIA asset.
 

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1) Common sense - If you prosecute someone for trafficking women, then logically those women were trafficked to someone.
2) The women's testimony. Listen to their words.
3) The pictures of FBI agents carrying multiple boxes of electronic equipment and VHS video tapes out of his sex dungeon building on Little St James Island.
4) The testimony of the woman saying she saw the room with the video surveillance equipment.
5) Understand the tools the NSA has. They know everything.

I don't think there is anyway to conclude the investigators didn't know who the men customers were. They prosecuted a women and sent her to jail for life. Who were the customers?

I just think it's a huge stretch to claim that they unequivocally know stuff based on you seeing boxes leave the building.

I have no issue with all of it coming out. Anyone who did illegal **** should go down for it. I just want to reserve judgement until we have actual proof. My best guess is that you will end up with a bunch of lists of attendees, some sketchy emails, and probably not much else. I doubt people were sending texts saying, " I only want 12 year olds for sex, get those ready for me"
 

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What you 'know' and what you can prove in federal court are two different things. Thats how the justice system works.
I don't think the JFK files released were anything ground breaking, I think the Epstein files will be the same. The CIA didn't release its transcripts from its first discussion with new President Lyndon Johnson for example. Why did Johnson keep the same Cia director? Why was the Warren commission allowed to conclude only one gunman, based on single bullet/magic bullet BS theory. Its ridiculous. Everyone should at this point understand there was not a single gunman, physics wont allow for it


Anyway, the CIA is still not sharing all their documents. Which is ofcourse, not surprising.
I 100% believe the CIA is hiding embarrassing facts in the JFK and Epstein cases. Epstein was 100% a CIA asset.


Unfortunately the CIA has had to "lie down with dogs" for many years to get inside criminal organizations world wide. They are gonna get fleas sometimes.

It's kind of the universal challenge of law enforcement. You use lower level thugs and informants to take down bigger fish. They have to make a judgement of whether letting this low level dude get away with stuff to take out a high level criminal is worth it. They get it wrong sometimes.
 
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I just think it's a huge stretch to claim that they unequivocally know stuff based on you seeing boxes leave the building.

I have no issue with all of it coming out. Anyone who did illegal **** should go down for it. I just want to reserve judgement until we have actual proof. My best guess is that you will end up with a bunch of lists of attendees, some sketchy emails, and probably not much else. I doubt people were sending texts saying, " I only want 12 year olds for sex, get those ready for me"


If it was just the boxes in isolation, i would agree with your assessment. But we have a lot more information than that. We can't just ignore it. The women said they were trafficked. They named names. Prince Andrew for one. Prince Andrew settled a lawsuit i believe?

The one woman testified that she saw the surveillance room with cameras placed on the beds. She described it vividly.

The NSA has all text messages. They probably have all phone conversations. They have all bank records. It's not like the people at the time thought they were going to get caught and were covering their tracks. They believed they were untouchable because they were intellgience. Either domestic or mosaad.

And no, i don't think that there is a specific text saying "give me a 12 year old". No one is that naive. You know how honeytraps work. You know how the feds work (if you don't read up on it). The entrapped person is usually in way tooo deep even before even realize they are a target.

It was an operation that should have never been run.
 

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If it was just the boxes in isolation, i would agree with your assessment. But we have a lot more information than that. We can't just ignore it. The women said they were trafficked. They named names. Prince Andrew for one. Prince Andrew settled a lawsuit i believe?

The one woman testified that she saw the surveillance room with cameras placed on the beds. She described it vividly.

The NSA has all text messages. They probably have all phone conversations. They have all bank records. It's not like the people at the time thought they were going to get caught and were covering their tracks. They believed they were untouchable because they were intellgience. Either domestic or mosaad.

And no, i don't think that there is a specific text saying "give me a 12 year old". No one is that naive. You know how honeytraps work. You know how the feds work (if you don't read up on it). The entrapped person is usually in way tooo deep even before even realize they are a target.

It was an operation that should have never been run.

Let me ask this separate from Epstein.

If you believed that you could save 1000s of lives by letting a scumbag get caught by endangering one person would you do it?

So many criminals have been taken off the street due to being caught committing crimes other than their primary activities, Capone for Tax evasion as an example.

Not at all condoning Epstein, but im really glad that I don't have to decide between which terrible people I have to work with daily. I try to give a little bit of grace to those that do.
 

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Unfortunately the CIA has had to "lie down with dogs" for many years to get inside criminal organizations world wide. They are gonna get fleas sometimes.

It's kind of the universal challenge of law enforcement. You use lower level thugs and informants to take down bigger fish. They have to make a judgement of whether letting this low level dude get away with stuff to take out a high level criminal is worth it. They get it wrong sometimes.
Yah they sure do get it wrong sometimes.
Like when they imported cocaine to the US to fund illegal wars. LIterally killing its citizens to kill other citizens in other countries... creating a drug epidemic which the government then passed laws to prosecute its citizens for in brutal fashion, while privatizing the prison systems so corporations could get rich off the situation that they themselves created.
 

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Yah they sure do get it wrong sometimes.
Like when they imported cocaine to the US to fund illegal wars. LIterally killing its citizens to kill other citizens in other countries... creating a drug epidemic which the government then passed laws to prosecute its citizens for in brutal fashion, while privatizing the prison systems so corporations could get rich off the situation that they themselves created.

Agreed. I'm not arguing that at all.
 

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What you 'know' and what you can prove in federal court are two different things. Thats how the justice system works.
I don't think the JFK files released were anything ground breaking, I think the Epstein files will be the same. The CIA didn't release its transcripts from its first discussion with new President Lyndon Johnson for example. Why did Johnson keep the same Cia director? Why was the Warren commission allowed to conclude only one gunman, based on single bullet/magic bullet BS theory. Its ridiculous. Everyone should at this point understand there was not a single gunman, physics wont allow for it


Anyway, the CIA is still not sharing all their documents. Which is ofcourse, not surprising.
I 100% believe the CIA is hiding embarrassing facts in the JFK and Epstein cases. Epstein was 100% a CIA asset.

wtf is this? Sure seems odd.

 

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She knows where the bodies are buried.

She never accused Clinton of rape, but in addition to the above, she also named Dershowitz.
A lot can change in 5 years BUT she commented several times in 2019 that she was not suicidal and if she died for people not to believe that she committed suicide.
 
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So many “coincidences”

Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre that just “committed suicide” who said “I was trafficked to Prince Andrew” had her case dismissed BY THE SAME JUDGE who ruled Donald Trump was guilty of raping E. Jean Carroll

WHAT ARE THE ODDS?!?

Judge Lewis Kaplan ruled:

- Donald Trump was guilty of Raping E. Jean Carroll
- This SAME JUDGE dismissed Prince Andrew’s case where he was accused of raping underage girl Virginia Giuffre on Jeffrey Epstein Island
- This judge formally dismissed all sexual abuse charges with a nice sealed settlement and no prison time

And now she’s dead by suicide after RECOVERING from a car accident
 

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Rabbithole goes deep.



As we get closer to unraveling what Diddy and Epstein were involved in, we should understand it goes much deeper..

John Paul Rice (movie producer) broke his Silence on The Global Pedophile Network - “They Have a Pipeline of Children From Haiti to the Vatican”

Before Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell were publicly known, we found a global network of pedophiles who were selling children back and forth to each other.

The Mainstream Media, Hollywood, the Royal Family, the Vatican are all implicated in human trafficking.

In Hollywood, there’s a hidden layer, and when the Me Too movement started in 2017, he reached out to prominent actresses, and he asked, what about the children. They all said, “We Know. We Know.”

Edge Dot Org was a multibillionaire club financed by Jeffrey Epstein. Contributing members:

• Bill Gates
• Marina Ambramovic
• Paul Allen
• Heads of Major Industries

They r*ped & tortured these girls.
They sacrifice these children.
They harvest organs of children.
They’re murdering these children for pleasure.
They own all politicians & there is a unified cabal.

PIZZAGATE, IF look how the New York Times covered it and compare it to the James Alefantis Instagram images, they completely omitted pictures of children in compromising positions.

All of James Alefantis friends were talking about how delicious those children looked.

Look at “PedoGate 2020” or “Out of Shadows” to see how disgusting these people are.

“I worked in Hollywood for 20 years & I saw **** nobody should see.”

When you see celebrities like Britney Spears, Amanda Bines, or any of these pop stars have meltdowns, it’s not because of fame or pressured— It’s because They are Sexually Abused and Handed Around Like Candy.

They Have a Pipeline of children going from Haiti all the way to the Vatican on Boats.

“You will not believe the level of satanic crap… this satanic **** going on in Hollywood & the music industry with Baphomet & pentagrams…”

They do these things to children because it’s the closest thing to God on this earth.
 

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I just think it's a huge stretch to claim that they unequivocally know stuff based on you seeing boxes leave the building.

I have no issue with all of it coming out. Anyone who did illegal **** should go down for it. I just want to reserve judgement until we have actual proof. My best guess is that you will end up with a bunch of lists of attendees, some sketchy emails, and probably not much else. I doubt people were sending texts saying, " I only want 12 year olds for sex, get those ready for me"


My position confirmed. There were boxes and boxes of VCR tapes and other digital evidence removed from his properties. There were pictures of FBI agents carrying the boxes out. The proof was out there, some just wanted to ignore it.


 

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This story is about to blow up.

No one is above the law. Except Fauci, the Biden family, and Royals.


 
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Transparency is key. No one trusts the FBI. We are at a trust but verify point with the new people at the FBI. Show the tapes and settle this for the people.





 

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Chatter is beginning in NYC that the Bankers who control $55TRILLION in derivatives for J.P. Morgan are the names at the very top of the Epstein Client list, & that J. P. Morgan also handled Epsteins money. This is believed to be why there are so many delays, because were these Bankers named & removed, the U.S Economy would collapse.
 

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The Epstein/Maxwell case never ended.

You will not see the client list until the proper time.

After the indictments are unsealed.

After the arrests and arraignment and pleas have been entered.

You'll know then. You'll be able to read the indictments. You'll be shown SOME [not ALL] of the evidence to sustain the charges that the grand juries were shown.

The chief reason social media influencers trolling for clicks on here endlessly post about 'why we haven't seen the Epstein Client List yet!' is because they are seeding a narrative in the public consciousness that it's all over, nobody is being investigated, there's no arrests coming, so there's no REASON they can't publicly dump the list out onto the internet right this minute.

That is a LIE.

They can't give you the list because they aren't going to tip off all the targets currently under investigation. Once you unseal the indictments and start making arrests there's no going back. You've tipped your hand and now any that managed to escape the dragnet see exactly what you've got and can begin planning their escape accordingly.

This is not a game.

Deadly serious justice is coming, and those pretending it's not are doing you a serious disservice.

We'll all look back in a year after some of the trials have concluded and laugh at all the hysteria and outrage being whipped up by those loudly insisting every damn day on here that 'nothing is happening' and 'nothing is going to happen!'.

Bookmark this. Let's check in on May 31, 2026.
 
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