Cord cutters will change cable forever! The days of a 125.00 cable bill and 500 channels is close to an end. The percent of households that ESPN is in vs. the amount of viewers it has was never a sustainable model. As Margret Thatcher said about socialism, sooner or later you run out of other peoples money.
Charging 80% of NJ for the BTN when maybe 2% actually wants it isnt sustainable either.Cord cutters will change cable forever! The days of a 125.00 cable bill and 500 channels is close to an end. The percent of households that ESPN is in vs. the amount of viewers it has was never a sustainable model. As Margret Thatcher said about socialism, sooner or later you run out of other peoples money.
Cord cutting doesn't mean digital is free except of course the main broadcast channels (ABC, NBC, etc..) it means not getting those bundled cable packages that include CNN, ESPN, Disney, Nickolodeon, Discovery, etc... and instead switching over to streaming media like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, HBO Go etc...I keep reading about this but don't quite understand yet what I need to do here. Sounds like a digital signal will be broadcast for free pretty much like the old days of just getting a signal with an antenna? (not to hijack this thread)
also, I'm right there with you 32Mine..same here.
The guys getting fired likely have nothing to do with your reasons to hate espn.
Cant believe people are happy here about 350 families being ruined.
The problem for ESPN is that a) its locked into alot of long term high money contracts and b) when they run out, they dont really own their content, so its no sure thing.Cord cutting doesn't mean digital is free except of course the main broadcast channels (ABC, NBC, etc..) it means not getting those bundled cable packages that include CNN, ESPN, Disney, Nickolodeon, Discovery, etc... and instead switching over to streaming media like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, HBO Go etc...
But to me it's all overblown in terms of cost savings and threats to the big cable companies and content providers. Unless you really trim back your viewing habits all your doing is changing to whom you're paying your bills. Instead of paying as big a bill to Comcast you'll be paying a bill to Netflix/Hulu/Prime etc..
People act like those companies will never raise prices and all their original content is somehow created for free or that they acquire their content libraries for free. They most certainly will raise prices. A couple weeks ago a I was discussing this same thing here and literally the same day Netflix came out with an increase of price on their service to new subscribers and for that same price increase to hit existing subscribers October next year. Just a few days ago on their earnings call they said expect more increases in the future. BTW their US subscriber growth wasn't so hot, international was better. Do you think Prime/Hulus etc..won't do the same? Of course they will.
As far as the "old guard" content providers, as long as they control content people want they're fine. The over the top stand alone HBO Go is 15 bucks/month. If these other guys like ESPN can't distribute their network to the entire subscription base you don't think they'll raise their prices and find a price model that works for their smaller distribution. They most likely will. Maybe they charge pay per view for events as well. Who knows but as long as they have content people want to see they'll adapt and find the pricing model that works. So in the end you'll likely end up paying more for less.
As far as the cable companies, if people start forgoing their tv packages and don't take those "triple/double play" packages at greater numbers I can see them charge higher rates for internet usage and possibly tiers with greater rates for high bandwith users. Just like the cell phone companies did going from minutes/texts to data. I didn't save any money on that switch over. They may also offer slim down versions of their tv packages but I think the pricing model for internet usage is where they're likely to adapt most.
The only threat I'd see is if the wireless companies are ever able to bring super fast wireless speeds into the home then you'll have real competition. Right now you have usually 2 or 3 at most competitors for the pipes in most markets. Satellite and then one of the big cable providers, occasionally a FIOS or something like that. If the wireless companies can ever bring that high speed across the country not just select markets then you'll have real competition which would bring prices down.
It's sort of like what TMobile has done to ATT/Verizon. They're losing money to gain market share but they're providing real competition which the other two have to address and at times match.
Yes ESPN is an aggregator of content not an owner but I don't know if the leagues would want to change that model any time soon. It is a threat to ESPN but I don't know how real a threat. That would mean the leagues would have to build out their own networks, all that entails and the cost of doing so? Do they really want to do that and are they willing?The problem for ESPN is that a) its locked into alot of long term high money contracts and b) when they run out, they dont really own their content, so its no sure thing.
Te flip side is - there is an argument to be made for leagues to stick with ESPN as their primary source, since people might rather pay $25 a month to get the best MLB/NFL/CFB/etc games rather than $10 for MLB and $20 for NFL and $10 for the BTN and $10 for SECN, etc.
Agree that the end game is you either pay more, or you have fewer choices. I think for right now, alot of people will take the fewer choices option.
No the BTN model doesn't work either, it's the same as ESPN's. The major content providers realize the only way to slow down the theft of their content is to provide what the viewer wants and only what they want at a fair cost. It's simple supply and demand, over price a product and you create a black market or competition. Right now the black market is just registering on the providers radar, soon to cut into top line and bottom line. Paying 125.00 either to cable or the internet provider for content you don't want is also unsustainable, you haven't moved the 125.00 needle. In reality the next gen is not willing to pay 125.00 and they will drive the market.Charging 80% of NJ for the BTN when maybe 2% actually wants it isnt sustainable either.
The real issue for ESPN is going to be the issue of broadcasting by content owners vs aggregators. If aggregation continues to be the norm, ESPN will make out fine. They might have to cut back, but in a world where most of the premier sports events are still through ESPN or its online version, then ESPN is cool.
The issue for them is if the leagues basically take most or all of their content and decide they dont need ESPN to get it out to people.
And of course in reality we will just pay $125 for the broadband connection instead and instead of 500 channels we will have basically infinite channels via the internet.
yes thanks for that. Somewhat what I was thinking (too good to be true is indeed too good to be true).Cord cutting doesn't mean digital is free except of course the main broadcast channels (ABC, NBC, etc..) it means not getting those bundled cable packages that include CNN, ESPN, Disney, Nickolodeon, Discovery, etc... and instead switching over to streaming media like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, HBO Go etc...
But to me it's all overblown in terms of cost savings and threats to the big cable companies and content providers. Unless you really trim back your viewing habits all your doing is changing to whom you're paying your bills. Instead of paying as big a bill to Comcast you'll be paying a bill to Netflix/Hulu/Prime etc..
Problem is, you will pay full freight for each channel instead of bundled bulk package prices. Instead of paying $125 for 500 channels and unlimited internet, you will pay $95 for the 100 channels you want and metered internet service.yes thanks for that. Somewhat what I was thinking (too good to be true is indeed too good to be true).
I will just be happy to be able to go ala cart and get rid of stuff. Right now paying for a regional sports package I NEVER watch. And can't remove it , etc.
Charging 80% of NJ for the BTN when maybe 2% actually wants it isnt sustainable either.
The real issue for ESPN is going to be the issue of broadcasting by content owners vs aggregators. If aggregation continues to be the norm, ESPN will make out fine. They might have to cut back, but in a world where most of the premier sports events are still through ESPN or its online version, then ESPN is cool.
The issue for them is if the leagues basically take most or all of their content and decide they dont need ESPN to get it out to people.
And of course in reality we will just pay $125 for the broadband connection instead and instead of 500 channels we will have basically infinite channels via the internet.
This is closer to the reality of the issue.