ESPN post-spring power rankings..

msstate7

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I think auburn is too high. I know they have done talent, but they did nothing last year. Flip us and auburn and I've got no problem with it
 

Bulldog from Birth

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57stratdawg

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I think auburn is too high. I know they have done talent, but they did nothing last year. Flip us and auburn and I've got no problem with it

Agreed. I don't really buy Vandy either. I saw a Vandy fan the other day saying that they'd have a top 5 D in the country next year. Yeah, f*cking, right..
 

msstate7

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Agreed. I don't really buy Vandy either. I saw a Vandy fan the other day saying that they'd have a top 5 D in the country next year. Yeah, f*cking, right..

I'm a huge vandy fan till they finish their first game. I hope the defense lives up to the hype.
 

dawgs.sixpack

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"8. Ole Miss: Coach Hugh Freeze wants to make sure expectations are tempered in Oxford after last season's success and a monster recruiting haul. He lost just three starters from last season's team, and guys are motivated to top last year's 7-6 season. But injuries hurt the team this spring, and depth issues still exist at receiver and along both lines."

and this is why ole miss is very overrated. they had a perfect storm of arkansas and auburn having all time melt down seasons, a new coach exciting the fanbase, no expectations allowing them to sneak up on teams, and decent health. i think their lines get exposed this season and they come back to earth.

compared to our write up:

"10. Mississippi State: The Bulldogs had a Jekyll and Hyde 2012 but also lost some key parts to last season's squad. Quarterback Tyler Russell has to work with a new receiving corps, while the secondary has to replace three starters, including Thorpe Award winner Johnthan Banks. It sounds as though the defensive line made major strides this spring, especially ends Denico Autry and Ryan Brown."

we return our entire OL, all but 2 of our 2 deep in the front 7 (i believe off the top of my head) plus our front 7 has the most young upcoming talent on the team, and our starting QB. anyone that follows SEC football knows good and damn well that you are in much much better shape returning the front 7, OL, and QB. WRs and DBs are luxuries, but won't win you games without strength in the trenches. give me inexperienced DBs and WRs everyday with experience at QB and on the lines. we learned that last year. and it's why i think we are pretty underrated going into 2013 and ole miss is very overrated.
 
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Angelo Pappas

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No they aren't. They're starting a 5th yr senior QB who is a former MWC player of the year.
 

Angelo Pappas

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"8. Ole Miss: Coach Hugh Freeze wants to make sure expectations are tempered in Oxford after last season's success and a monster recruiting haul. He lost just three starters from last season's team, and guys are motivated to top last year's 7-6 season. But injuries hurt the team this spring, and depth issues still exist at receiver and along both lines."

and this is why ole miss is very overrated. they had a perfect storm of arkansas and auburn having all time melt down seasons, a new coach exciting the fanbase, no expectations allowing them to sneak up on teams, and decent health. i think their lines get exposed this season and they come back to earth.

You mean if OM has some injuries at WR and along both lines then they won't be as good as they otherwise would have? You're really going out a limb there.

And Ark and AU having melt down seasons helped MSU just as much as it helped OM.
 

haildearoldstate

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Franklin was quoted as saying afte rthe spring that if the season started today,

a RS frosh (Patton ???) could very well be the starting QB. Doesn't matter to me though one way or the other.
 

GloryDawg

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And Ark and AU having melt down seasons helped MSU just as much as it helped OM.[/QUOTE]

But MSU still would have gone to a bowl game.
 

BigLeagueChew

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Probably but that has more to do with you playing UK and TN and us having to play UGA and Vandy. But I'm sure you're gonna say how State would've stomped Vandy last year.
 

coach66

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I think it is about right. We have some things to prove after the meltdown

we had with our internal coaching issues that led to defeat in Oxford. I honestly
believe there isn't much difference in teams 3 thru 10. Any of those teams can beat the other
on any given day next year. Bama and TAMU are going to be the class of the league by far.

We were a better team than we showed the last half of last season. How much better is yet
to be determined.
 

dawgs.sixpack

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You mean if OM has some injuries at WR and along both lines then they won't be as good as they otherwise would have? You're really going out a limb there.

And Ark and AU having melt down seasons helped MSU just as much as it helped OM.

i'm saying guys get banged up and/or need to be rotated out. OM doesn't have as much depth. wanna know why we were disapppointing in 2011? because we didn't have depth on the DL and OL. well, we had some depth, but we had a gap there because croom left a class or 2 devoid of OL/DL talent. we've spent the last few recruiting cylces building up our depth at OL/DL so that an injury doesn't completely derail us much like our OL injuries in 2011.

and yeah, ark and auburn melting down last year helped us, but we (1) still would have gone bowling and (2) we aren't getting 1/10th of the hype OM is right now despite the better overall 2012 record and more depth at the most important spots on the field (OL and front 7). if ark and auburn had been just avg for them over the past decade or so, OM would have gone 4-8 or 5-7 and no one would be hyping OM going into 2013. hell, OM might have gone 3-9 in 2012 if they didn't have the momentum and motivation going into the egg bowl and instead were just playing for 4-8 instead of 3-9.
 

horshack.sixpack

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I think auburn is too high. I know they have done talent, but they did nothing last year. Flip us and auburn and I've got no problem with it

Until we show that we can stop a high powered offense(or outscore one), I'd have to leave us right there below Auburn. I don't want to, but I have to. Of course I'm assuming that Malzahn is gonna Malzahn.
 

whereisATL

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i'm saying guys get banged up and/or need to be rotated out. OM doesn't have as much depth. wanna know why we were disapppointing in 2011? because we didn't have depth on the DL and OL. well, we had some depth, but we had a gap there because croom left a class or 2 devoid of OL/DL talent. we've spent the last few recruiting cylces building up our depth at OL/DL so that an injury doesn't completely derail us much like our OL injuries in 2011.

and yeah, ark and auburn melting down last year helped us, but we (1) still would have gone bowling and (2) we aren't getting 1/10th of the hype OM is right now despite the better overall 2012 record and more depth at the most important spots on the field (OL and front 7). if ark and auburn had been just avg for them over the past decade or so, OM would have gone 4-8 or 5-7 and no one would be hyping OM going into 2013. hell, OM might have gone 3-9 in 2012 if they didn't have the momentum and motivation going into the egg bowl and instead were just playing for 4-8 instead of 3-9.

What hype? Being predicted to beat the teams you beat last year when you add more and lose less is hype? Hell Vandy is favored to beat us by 6.5. Why do you think you have more depth than we do in trenches? Nevermind I forgot where I was posting.
 

121Josey

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Here's my take

t.1 Bama/A&M - holes to fill but talented. A&M has a better schedule but loses Kingsbury.
3. Georgia - gambling on JUCOs but within a TD in SECCG.
4. Florida - not flashy but defense, defense , defense.
5. South Carolina - balanced but not the same talent level as the past couple years.
6. Vandy - younger, better talent maturing; best in-game coaching.
7. LSU - talented but too many holes to fill.
8. State - fixed schematic problems on defense; jury out on offense. Can they run consistently?
9. TSUN - easily could be 7 or 8 but not convinced they could beat either on a neutral field. Unfavorable schedule.
10 Auburn - the great unknown. Two of the best strategists in the league and talent to boot. Could leap Vandy or fall to Mizzou.
11 Kentucky - plenty of reasons to get excited about Stoops. Freeze 2.0? Will rely on defense in 2013.
12. Mizzou - will they adapt to SEC play sooner than later?
t.13 - Ark/TN - write off seasons, especially for UPig - total revamping philosophy on both sides of the ball.
 
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Not sure I get the love of all things Vandy aspect. Who did they beat that was worth a damn last year? OM? They were crushed by every SEC team they played that had a winning conference record by a combined score of 96-33. Their low end NC opponents make ours look like an NFL schedule--they played the UMass Minutemen and Presbyterian "Blue Hose" (whatever the 17 that mascot is supposed to be). Their quality wins were against OM (by a point) and two ACC schools. And now they finish in the upper echelon of the SEC? I don't see it.
 

dawgs.sixpack

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What hype? Being predicted to beat the teams you beat last year when you add more and lose less is hype? Hell Vandy is favored to beat us by 6.5. Why do you think you have more depth than we do in trenches? Nevermind I forgot where I was posting.

you must have missed this past recruiting cycle. and obviously hype is relative. yall aren't getting bama/a&m hype, but i've read and heard more than a few non-ole miss fans talk about ole miss beating texas and/or lsu in 2013. that's pretty big hype imo.