Everything always works out for UL

BMo643

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The secret formula to UofL's success is simple. They have gotten very lucky to have 2 elite QB's in short time span. Teddy and Lamar are program changing players.

UK has not had a game changing QB since Andre hence why this program has struggled since he left and even when he was at UK the defense was not good enough to win more games.

Great QB play, easier schedule, and better coaching has separated UofL from UK and it is not close right now.

I agree with 98% of your post except for the statement of UL being "very lucky" to have 2 elite QBs in a short time. When it comes to UL and especially Petrino I think we can retire the idea that UL is "lucky" to get good QBs or that typical UK statement "wait until (insert starting QBs name here) leaves then UL will suck". I've followed UL football for close to 25 years and in that time UL has had: Chris Redman (96-99), Dave Ragone (99-2002), Stefon Lefours (2001-04), Brian Brohm (2004-07), Teddy Bridgewater (2011-13, and Lamar Jackson. Basically aside from the Kragthorpe era and the start of the Petrino era UL has always had a good QB.
 

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Sports Illustrated:

"The Cardinals were on the verge of taking themselves out of the mix when they finally awoke against Wake Forest on Saturday. After trailing 12–0, Louisville scored 44 unanswered points—34 of them in the fourth quarter—to win comfortably. As odd as it sounds, Clemson's loss probably hurts the Cardinals. Unless Clemson falls to Wake Forest next week, the Tigers will win the ACC Atlantic Division. Louisville would have been better off as the 11–1 non-champ of a conference with a 13–0 champ. Now, the Tigers look weaker, and the Cardinals have to stay behind them in the playoff rankings unless Clemson loses again."

They likely win out, but it's not "a fact" that they're in the playoff.

The only thing yesterday did was pretty much clinch the Citrus Bowl-(look like the B1G will be in the Orange Bowl and that means the ACC get the slot opposite of the SEC in the Citrus Bowl). My focus is Houston and winning out and NYD 6 Bowl.
 

Mr Schwump

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UK can't beg, borrow, or steal a break. QB has great first half in first game and gets hurt, maybe even career ending. Young defensive players on an already suspect defense are dropping like flies, replacements are not ready for prime time.

UL needs major help to get in playoffs and they get it....in spades and in about a 2 hour period. 2, 3, and 4 losing on the same day has happened ONCE in college football, and that was in 1985. Now it's happened again.

The level these 2 programs are at now is staggering and unlikely to change anytime soon.
 

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They may be top 4 this week, but hard - still - to see it lasting. They'll jump Clemson, but if Clemson wins next week vs Wake and then wins the ACC Title game, they'll jump Louisville.

Still, a lot can happen between now and year end. They could get in. Never understood those who declared Louisville dead the first week rankings came out.
There is going to be two AllCheatersConference teams in the playoffs!
 

sluggercatfan

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If ul and clemson win out clemson will be acc champ.
I don't think two teams from the acc will get in.
If Otis wins Thur night and Clemson wins AllCheatersConference championship they both are in. They are not going to keep an 11-1 team with possibly the Heisman winner out of the playoff!?
 
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brianpoe

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Yes that great coach was down 12-10 at home to Wake Forest to start 4th qtr...he is just great


Another dandy post...

The Cardinals were on the verge of taking themselves out of the mix when they finally awoke against Wake Forest on Saturday. After trailing 12–0, Louisville scored 44 unanswered points—34 of them in the fourth quarter—to win comfortably.
 

LeonThe Camel

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Why does it matter what happens to Louisville. It does not affect our play or end result other than 1 game.
 

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If Washington wins out, they bump UL out. If they get by WSU, it's looking like they'll play Colorado in the Pac 12 Championship game. I thought it would be USC, but Colorado is ahead of them in the standings. I think Wash gets it done, and there's gonna be alot of pizzed off Birdie fans when they get left out. Houston, just end all this speculation next Thursday. Is that too much to ask? LOL.
 

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It's a fact. I just researched the history of the polls and based on facts from the previous years, they would get in if they win out. I'm going to tell you what the polls will be this upcoming week based on history.

Alabama
Ohio State
Louisville
Michigan
Clemson

Or

Alabama
Ohio State
Louisville
Clemson
Michigan

Louisville only gets knocked out if they lose.

Ohio State and Michigan will take care of themselves since they play each other but a 2 loss conference champion has never made it into the playoffs before. I don't see the rules changing just because we don't want Louisville to make it to the playoffs.
Sports Illustrated:

"The Cardinals were on the verge of taking themselves out of the mix when they finally awoke against Wake Forest on Saturday. After trailing 12–0, Louisville scored 44 unanswered points—34 of them in the fourth quarter—to win comfortably. As odd as it sounds, Clemson's loss probably hurts the Cardinals. Unless Clemson falls to Wake Forest next week, the Tigers will win the ACC Atlantic Division. Louisville would have been better off as the 11–1 non-champ of a conference with a 13–0 champ. Now, the Tigers look weaker, and the Cardinals have to stay behind them in the playoff rankings unless Clemson loses again."

They likely win out, but it's not "a fact" that they're in the playoff.
 
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It's a fact. I just researched the history of the polls and based on facts from the previous years, they would get in if they win out. I'm going to tell you what the polls will be this upcoming week based on history.

Alabama
Ohio State
Louisville
Michigan
Clemson

Or

Alabama
Ohio State
Louisville
Clemson
Michigan

Louisville only gets knocked out if they lose.

Ohio State and Michigan will take care of themselves since they play each other but a 2 loss conference champion has never made it into the playoffs before. I don't see the rules changing just because we don't want Louisville to make it to the playoffs.
Well, we'll see. There's plenty of time left in the season, other one loss teams may or will lose, uofl isn't likely to lose, so you might end up being right. But not right now. If Clemson wins out, they'll be ahead of Louisville, whether they're ranked ahead or behind Louisville this week. Bama is in. Oh WAshongton beats WSU and wins the PAC12 title, they'll get in before Louisville. If any conference figures to get two spots out of the 4, it's the Big 10.
 

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The loss to Clemson hurts UL but does at least leave the door open for Wake to beat Clemson next week and Louisville to win the division, so thats worth losing a few "resume points" for Louisville in my opinion. The Michigan and Washington losses help UL more than the Clemson loss. Now the OSU/Michigan game takes care of itself with the loser for sure being out. If we assume Oklahoma wins the Big 12 then a 2 loss Big 12 team is out of the picture as well.

It will be interesting to see what the playoff committee does if Washington and Louisville both finish with 1 loss. Would they put in the Heisman front runner and 1 loss Louisville or the Pac 12 Champ that has been the sort of "odd team out" all year because of their weak schedule? It seems nearly certain that if Washington ends their season with wins over WSU and Colorado then they're nearly certain to be the 4th team. Houston's fall from college football darling is part of why I've been telling all my UL friends to root for UK these few weeks as you all could have provided a much needed resume bump with wins over UGA and UT the last 2 weeks and UL could have really used a game vs a ranked SEC team to end the season.

Likely right now the 4 teams revealed on Tuesday will be Bama, Ohio State, Louisville and either Michigan or Clemson. When its all said and done its probably going to Bama, Clemson, Ohio State and either Washington or Louisville.
 
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The loss to Clemson hurts UL but does at least leave the door open for Wake to beat Clemson next week and Louisville to win the division, so thats worth losing a few "resume points" for Louisville in my opinion. The Michigan and Washington losses help UL more than the Clemson loss. Now the OSU/Michigan game takes care of itself with the loser for sure being out. If we assume Oklahoma wins the Big 12 then a 2 loss Big 12 team is out of the picture as well.

It will be interesting to see what the playoff committee does if Washington and Louisville both finish with 1 loss. Would they put in the Heisman front runner and 1 loss Louisville or the Pac 12 Champ that has been the sort of "odd team out" all year because of their weak schedule? Likely right now the 4 teams revealed on Tuesday will be Bama, Ohio State, Louisville and either Michigan or Clemson. When its all said and done its probably going to Bama, Clemson, Ohio State and either Washington or Louisville.
I think if Wisconsin beats Penn St for the Big 10 title they likely get in before either Louisville or Washington, even with 2 losses....
 

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I think if Wisconsin beats Penn St for the Big 10 title they likely get in before either Louisville or Washington, even with 2 losses....

I'll be absolutely stunned if a two loss team eve makes it into the playoff. Especially if there are 1 loss Power 5 teams with an argument.
 

LadyCaytIL

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if you want to say a weaker schedule by a mile with a 1 loss UL deserves it more than the 2 loss loser of the osu/mich game then the weaker schedule no loss western Michigan deserves it more than UL

And if you try to change and twist your own logic to argue that then it proves who here really roots for UL
 

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Feels great to be in the mix for a playoff spot. Louisville has went from a middle of the pack conference USA team to a program with a chair at the big boy table. How can you complain as a fan when the worst case scenario is a new year's six bowl.

And I don't see how you all keep saying our schedule is weak when the division Uk plays in is the dumpster fire of college football.
 

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Let UL play Bama south carolina vandy miss state mizz georgia and UT...then come talk to me....get lost
 

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What are you talking about Trump666....UL would be in top 4 with no questions if they played our scheddule
 

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Have been trying to tell everybody Clemson is not as good as everybody has thought all year. UL's A game is better than Clemsons.

I think UL will get in if they heat Houston and us. Poor performances against conference also rans are hurting them right now so they will be trying to put the hurt on Houston and will try to run it up big time against us to overcome those.
 

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The Big Ten East race is actually a 3 team race. Penn State, Ohio State and Michigan are all 6-1. If Penn State wins at Rutgers and at home against Michigan State, and Ohio State beats Michigan, then Penn State wins the Big Ten East. Penn State would then play for the Big Ten championship, while Ohio State and Michigan will sit and watch.
 
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I'll be absolutely stunned if a two loss team eve makes it into the playoff. Especially if there are 1 loss Power 5 teams with an argument.
Yeah, would be a little shocking, but then we're only 2 years in, not long enough to say with much certainty what the rules and patterns are. One thing the committee has shown is that a conference title is very meaningful. The Big 10 is arguably the best league - at the top, inarguably. Wisconsin will have 2 close losses to two teams that spent most of the year in the top 5. They are skeptical of Washington, I think they've telegraphed that much. Even if WU wins the next 3 to finish 12-1 with a PAC 12 title, I think they'd be very inclined to give Wiscy the final spot, and easily so if WU loses again. Louisville's problem is they finish with several weak teams in a row, so even wins when others are losing doesn't really impress, and then on top of that you guys will finish a week early, which means out of the conversation and largely forgotten during the week with the most hype. Clemson losing hurts you guys - before, there was a dilemma as to whether the ACC or the Big 10 would get 2 spots if it came to that. I think that riddle has been solved. But, like I keep saying, plenty of time left - best thing for you guys, my opinion, is to hope Clemson loses again.

Which isn't out of the realm - all year, they win close ones, everyone sees resilience and fighting spirit. I see a somewhat disinterested team.
 

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Yeah, would be a little shocking, but then we're only 2 years in, not long enough to say with much certainty what the rules and patterns are. One thing the committee has shown is that a conference title is very meaningful. The Big 10 is arguably the best league - at the top, inarguably. Wisconsin will have 2 close losses to two teams that spent most of the year in the top 5. They are skeptical of Washington, I think they've telegraphed that much. Even if WU wins the next 3 to finish 12-1 with a PAC 12 title, I think they'd be very inclined to give Wiscy the final spot, and easily so if WU loses again. Louisville's problem is they finish with several weak teams in a row, so even wins when others are losing doesn't really impress, and then on top of that you guys will finish a week early, which means out of the conversation and largely forgotten during the week with the most hype. Clemson losing hurts you guys - before, there was a dilemma as to whether the ACC or the Big 10 would get 2 spots if it came to that. I think that riddle has been solved. But, like I keep saying, plenty of time left - best thing for you guys, my opinion, is to hope Clemson loses again.

Which isn't out of the realm - all year, they win close ones, everyone sees resilience and fighting spirit. I see a somewhat disinterested team.
I want us to beat Louisville. Unfortunately, Louisville has the Heisman frontrunner on their team. Think about the media and politics behind Louisville this year with the Heisman runner, that will get them in. if you don't think it will, then you don't know money. The media has made Lamar Jackson bigger than life. They want to capitalize on ratings to get that almighty dollar. Believe it
 

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I want us to beat Louisville. Unfortunately, Louisville has the Heisman frontrunner on their team. Think about the media and politics behind Louisville this year with the Heisman runner, that will get them in. if you don't think it will, then you don't know money. The media has made Lamar Jackson bigger than life. They want to capitalize on ratings to get that almighty dollar. Believe it
Politics will be the reason Louisville will be left out of the playoffs if we win out. The irony of your post makes me chuckle lol
 

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I want us to beat Louisville. Unfortunately, Louisville has the Heisman frontrunner on their team. Think about the media and politics behind Louisville this year with the Heisman runner, that will get them in. if you don't think it will, then you don't know money. The media has made Lamar Jackson bigger than life. They want to capitalize on ratings to get that almighty dollar. Believe it

ESPN has the rights to the Orange Bowl, too, so they do not really care whether Louisville gets into a playoff game or the Orange Bowl.
 

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Red rage 2016...i want some of what you are smoking if you think UL beats georgia UT or miss state bringin that weak *** **** last night...you cant bring that crap week in week out in SEC or you go home with a loss...end of discussion
 

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The Georgia that lost at home to Vandy....the same Tennessee that took a miracle to beat Appy State at home or the same Mississippi State that lost at home to South Alabama...ok...you're trolling your own Fanbase...can't be a real UK fan.

All I know is this...the Coaches and AP Poll right now has Louisville #3 in the nation...for us it is on to Houston on Thursday Night.
 
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You wouldnt be 3 if you played 2 good teams in a row...but i hope you make it in and then play Bama...oh thats gonna be ugly
..you aint big time and everybody but your linebeard buddies knows it
 

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If Louisville wins out, can't see them not getting in because of Jackson.I'm a diehard Cats fan, but the kid when he is on, is almost unstoppable. I would love to see Louisville play Alabama and I'm sure I will get blasted, but I think they have a shot with Jackson. He passes first and runs second, I think he would give Alabama fits.
 

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UL is 3rd in the nation. They will be in the playoffs and have best offensive coach in the country and the likely Heisman trophy winner. They will be great as long as Petrino is there.

Are they as good as Bama or OSU? I don't think so but anything can happen in a one game scenario. We saw that Saturday.

You can ignore it if you wish or act foolish like they couldn't compete in the SEC all you want. Facts are facts. And it's a kick in the nuts to UK whether you admit it or not.

We just keep getting further behind and we're not catching up as long as they have that staff, imo. But we need to take care of our stuff. We have to get to the next level and soon. Getting to a Bowl is the first step.
 

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UL is 3rd in the nation. They will be in the playoffs and have best offensive coach in the country and the likely Heisman trophy winner. They will be great as long as Petrino is there.

Are they as good as Bama or OSU? I don't think so but anything can happen in a one game scenario. We saw that Saturday.

You can ignore it if you wish or act foolish like they couldn't compete in the SEC all you want. Facts are facts. And it's a kick in the nuts to UK whether you admit it or not.

We just keep getting further behind and we're not catching up as long as they have that staff, imo. But we need to take care of our stuff. We have to get to the next level and soon. Getting to a Bowl is the first step.
Agree totally. We screwed the pooch four years ago. We better be much better next season because of the schedule will be much tougher and I don't think the current HC is up to the task
 

Tannerdad

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Agree totally. We screwed the pooch four years ago. We better be much better next season because of the schedule will be much tougher and I don't think the current HC is up to the task

I think the jury is still out on that. We have seen improvement and all fans wanted to see this year is a Bowl and this is likely. Next year is Stoop's show me year, or should be.

But to constantly make bogus claims that UL is weak seems misguided at best, imo. If it sounds like I'm jealous. Well you're damn right I am.
 

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It affects our ability to pull great players out of Jefferson Co
Both of them. The state is not known for football. We own the northern Kentucky region and every other place in the border. If a player is really that good, chances are Louisville is not the primary opponent. It will be the same major players, Notre Dame, Alabama, ..