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<blockquote data-quote="michaelwalkerbr" data-source="post: 129495803" data-attributes="member: 1601483"><p>OK, let's end this debate in an amicable fashion. No one has actually challenged anyone's GOR, nor do I believe they are likely to. We really have no reasonably accurate prediction of how a 'fantasy litigation' would transpire, much less conclude. And that's all it is. No competent attorney ever guarantees to win a case, ever. Topdecktiger, you surprise me to presume to know how multiple entities would respond to any given scenario. Judges are biased, opinionated and occasionally corrupt. And people and corporations are greedy. (Universities are indeed corporations)</p><p></p><p>Some judges suppress their personal opinions to accommodate the letter and intent of the law. Others twist their opinions of a law to accommodate their personal beliefs. And juries are unpredictable and ignorant of the law more often than not. They are oftentimes selected to be that way. You lost me when you presumed to <u>know</u> that 14 school presidents would turn down an offer of $50 million per school to allow another school to leave without courtroom drama. Would they also turn down $75 million? I don't think WVU would to lose Iowa State or Kansas. It merely accelerates your expansion schedule. </p><p></p><p>I believe the GOR is as rigid and strong as Fort Knox, you simply can't break in. But you can entice those inside to bring a piece of the gold to you if the price is right. To maintain that none of the schools would agree to allow a lower tier member out of the agreement for more than reasonable compensation is not realistic. The ACC was adamant that Maryland would pay the entire $50 million exit fee that Maryland and FSU voted against. No negotiation, fight it all the way. But they all accepted $31 million as a settlement after a judge had ruled in their favor on nearly every motion. That likely occurred as a result of some backroom advice given to their attorneys by the same judge. </p><p></p><p>We really have no idea of how this Big 12 expansion idea is actually going to play out any more than we know what will be happening in our own lives next week. It is indeed entertaining and somewhat fun to conjecture and argue our viewpoints. But we seem to have reached a point where we are not only boring others, we have become so polarized in our own ideas that we shut out any possibility of someone else being right regarding any point. Even if one of the three or four of you are right about one thing, one of the others could also be right about another. It does not diminish your credibility. I may possibly be correct in one of my predictions. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then! It's been fun, but I'm done.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="michaelwalkerbr, post: 129495803, member: 1601483"] OK, let's end this debate in an amicable fashion. No one has actually challenged anyone's GOR, nor do I believe they are likely to. We really have no reasonably accurate prediction of how a 'fantasy litigation' would transpire, much less conclude. And that's all it is. No competent attorney ever guarantees to win a case, ever. Topdecktiger, you surprise me to presume to know how multiple entities would respond to any given scenario. Judges are biased, opinionated and occasionally corrupt. And people and corporations are greedy. (Universities are indeed corporations) Some judges suppress their personal opinions to accommodate the letter and intent of the law. Others twist their opinions of a law to accommodate their personal beliefs. And juries are unpredictable and ignorant of the law more often than not. They are oftentimes selected to be that way. You lost me when you presumed to [U]know[/U] that 14 school presidents would turn down an offer of $50 million per school to allow another school to leave without courtroom drama. Would they also turn down $75 million? I don't think WVU would to lose Iowa State or Kansas. It merely accelerates your expansion schedule. I believe the GOR is as rigid and strong as Fort Knox, you simply can't break in. But you can entice those inside to bring a piece of the gold to you if the price is right. To maintain that none of the schools would agree to allow a lower tier member out of the agreement for more than reasonable compensation is not realistic. The ACC was adamant that Maryland would pay the entire $50 million exit fee that Maryland and FSU voted against. No negotiation, fight it all the way. But they all accepted $31 million as a settlement after a judge had ruled in their favor on nearly every motion. That likely occurred as a result of some backroom advice given to their attorneys by the same judge. We really have no idea of how this Big 12 expansion idea is actually going to play out any more than we know what will be happening in our own lives next week. It is indeed entertaining and somewhat fun to conjecture and argue our viewpoints. But we seem to have reached a point where we are not only boring others, we have become so polarized in our own ideas that we shut out any possibility of someone else being right regarding any point. Even if one of the three or four of you are right about one thing, one of the others could also be right about another. It does not diminish your credibility. I may possibly be correct in one of my predictions. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then! It's been fun, but I'm done. [/QUOTE]
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