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<blockquote data-quote="topdecktiger" data-source="post: 129502653" data-attributes="member: 1459051"><p>You can get those conference networks in different areas, but the same goes for the LHN. The point I was making is, if you want to get the Pac 12 network in South Carolina, for example, you have to get it through the special sports package. I get the SEC network on my regular cable package. Big difference. The point is, it contradicts your theory that Texas would get more exposure nationally on a Big 12 network, because it's still not going to be on basic distribution nationwide, which is the same situation now for the LHN.</p><p></p><p>You are wrong about the $4-6 million statement from Boren. The majority of money made by the conference networks comes from the in-footprint rate. I'll give you an example. These are the figures from the BTN. They are a couple of years old, but that's good since it gives us a conservative estimate. <a href="http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/5/3/4295242/sec-network-big-ten-network-comparison">http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/5/3/4295242/sec-network-big-ten-network-comparison</a></p><p></p><p>The Big Ten has 52 million subscribers, 20 million in-footprint. The Big Ten gets $1.00 per subscriber in footprint, and $.20 per subscriber outside the footprint. Ok, let's do the math. 20 million X $1.00 would be $20 million. 32 million X $.20 = $6.4 million. See? You get 3 times the amount of money from about 1/3 fewer subscribers.</p><p></p><p>The Big 12 schools can't keep those Tier 3 deals if the conference forms a network. The conference has to buy back all those rights and package them into the Big 12 network. You can't count that money twice.</p><p></p><p>No, the figures don't add up. I'll go back to the Big Ten as an example. We already established they got $26.4 million from all subscribers. Multiply by 12 months, and you get $316.8 million. Divide half for Fox, and you get $158.4 million for the year. Divide that by 13(remember they only had 12 schools at the time), and you get $12.2 million per team. That year, the Big Ten actually got $7.6 million per team.<a href="http://btn.com/2013/05/06/report-big-ten-payouts-to-hit-25-7-million/">http://btn.com/2013/05/06/report-big-ten-payouts-to-hit-25-7-million/</a></p><p></p><p>My point is, the way you calculated the money previously is incorrect. I applied the same formula to the Big Ten (for which we have actual numbers to compare) and got an error of over 50%. So yeah, the $4-6 million Bowlsby quoted is more accurate than your figure of $8+ million.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="topdecktiger, post: 129502653, member: 1459051"] You can get those conference networks in different areas, but the same goes for the LHN. The point I was making is, if you want to get the Pac 12 network in South Carolina, for example, you have to get it through the special sports package. I get the SEC network on my regular cable package. Big difference. The point is, it contradicts your theory that Texas would get more exposure nationally on a Big 12 network, because it's still not going to be on basic distribution nationwide, which is the same situation now for the LHN. You are wrong about the $4-6 million statement from Boren. The majority of money made by the conference networks comes from the in-footprint rate. I'll give you an example. These are the figures from the BTN. They are a couple of years old, but that's good since it gives us a conservative estimate. [URL]http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/5/3/4295242/sec-network-big-ten-network-comparison[/URL] The Big Ten has 52 million subscribers, 20 million in-footprint. The Big Ten gets $1.00 per subscriber in footprint, and $.20 per subscriber outside the footprint. Ok, let's do the math. 20 million X $1.00 would be $20 million. 32 million X $.20 = $6.4 million. See? You get 3 times the amount of money from about 1/3 fewer subscribers. The Big 12 schools can't keep those Tier 3 deals if the conference forms a network. The conference has to buy back all those rights and package them into the Big 12 network. You can't count that money twice. No, the figures don't add up. I'll go back to the Big Ten as an example. We already established they got $26.4 million from all subscribers. Multiply by 12 months, and you get $316.8 million. Divide half for Fox, and you get $158.4 million for the year. Divide that by 13(remember they only had 12 schools at the time), and you get $12.2 million per team. That year, the Big Ten actually got $7.6 million per team.[URL]http://btn.com/2013/05/06/report-big-ten-payouts-to-hit-25-7-million/[/URL] My point is, the way you calculated the money previously is incorrect. I applied the same formula to the Big Ten (for which we have actual numbers to compare) and got an error of over 50%. So yeah, the $4-6 million Bowlsby quoted is more accurate than your figure of $8+ million. [/QUOTE]
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