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<blockquote data-quote="topdecktiger" data-source="post: 129504296" data-attributes="member: 1459051"><p>Yes, your numbers are incorrect because your numbers don't account for things like expenses. You HAVE to take that into account. Your figures of $8-9 million are BEFORE EXPENSES. That's a meaningless number. It only matters what the schools actually put in their pockets.</p><p></p><p>Also, I do know the Big Ten gets $1.00 inside the footprint.</p><p></p><p><em>At last check, the channel charges a $1.00 fee per subscriber per month for those customers within the conference footprint, which NY/NJ now falls into thanks to Rutgers.</em></p><p><a href="http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/big-ten-network-hits-the-nyc-jackpot-worth-tens-of-millions-of-dollars.html">http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/big-ten-network-hits-the-nyc-jackpot-worth-tens-of-millions-of-dollars.html</a></p><p></p><p>So yes, they do get $1.00 inside the footprint.</p><p></p><p>The article clearly said the $8.1 million was from the year before, which was 2012.</p><p><em><strong><u>Last year</u></strong> Illinois received $24.6 million, including $6.6 million from the BTN. This afternoon, the university corrected an earlier report of $8.1 million from the BTN, noting the difference of $1.5 million came from Fox.</em></p><p></p><p>The discrepancy comes from this. The BTN is not set up the same way as the SECN. The Big Ten is actually a half owner of the BTN (unlike the SEC). Therefore, they get base payout from Fox, aside from the network revenue:</p><p></p><p><em><u>BTN pays about $100 million per year in rights fees to the conference</u>, according to sources. That revenue is distributed to the schools, <u>along with profits</u>, benefiting athletic programs and facilities across the Big Ten</em>.<a href="http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-14/business/ct-biz-1014-executive-profile-silverman-20131014_1_mark-silverman-btn-college-football-game">http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-14/business/ct-biz-1014-executive-profile-silverman-20131014_1_mark-silverman-btn-college-football-game</a></p><p></p><p>Point being, the Big Ten gets a flat fee, plus the actual generated revenue. That's why they got $6.6 million in actual revenue, plus the $1.5 million in rights fees. However, the article is clear that all this money was from 2012, not 2013. You are trying say the $6.6 million or $1.5 million had something to do with 2013, and clearly it doesn't.</p><p></p><p>The Nebraska issue just bolsters my point. Nebraska didn't get a full share, so that that means the other schools actually got an inflated share than they other wise would. That means, the $7.6 million figure would be even lower if the money was distributed equally. That puts the Big Ten's actual payout even lower than the $12.2 million they should get using your formula. That makes your formula even less accurate.</p><p></p><p>Again, the point is, there are more factors that have to be considers (like expenses) to determine the actual payout for the Big 12. You are not accounting for those figures in your calculations. You are simply adding up the subscription fees, and claiming $8 million a year for the Big 12, without subtracting anything for factors like expenses. That artificially inflates the total.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="topdecktiger, post: 129504296, member: 1459051"] Yes, your numbers are incorrect because your numbers don't account for things like expenses. You HAVE to take that into account. Your figures of $8-9 million are BEFORE EXPENSES. That's a meaningless number. It only matters what the schools actually put in their pockets. Also, I do know the Big Ten gets $1.00 inside the footprint. [I]At last check, the channel charges a $1.00 fee per subscriber per month for those customers within the conference footprint, which NY/NJ now falls into thanks to Rutgers.[/I] [URL]http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/big-ten-network-hits-the-nyc-jackpot-worth-tens-of-millions-of-dollars.html[/URL] So yes, they do get $1.00 inside the footprint. The article clearly said the $8.1 million was from the year before, which was 2012. [I][B][U]Last year[/U][/B] Illinois received $24.6 million, including $6.6 million from the BTN. This afternoon, the university corrected an earlier report of $8.1 million from the BTN, noting the difference of $1.5 million came from Fox.[/I] The discrepancy comes from this. The BTN is not set up the same way as the SECN. The Big Ten is actually a half owner of the BTN (unlike the SEC). Therefore, they get base payout from Fox, aside from the network revenue: [I][U]BTN pays about $100 million per year in rights fees to the conference[/U], according to sources. That revenue is distributed to the schools, [U]along with profits[/U], benefiting athletic programs and facilities across the Big Ten[/I].[URL]http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-14/business/ct-biz-1014-executive-profile-silverman-20131014_1_mark-silverman-btn-college-football-game[/URL] Point being, the Big Ten gets a flat fee, plus the actual generated revenue. That's why they got $6.6 million in actual revenue, plus the $1.5 million in rights fees. However, the article is clear that all this money was from 2012, not 2013. You are trying say the $6.6 million or $1.5 million had something to do with 2013, and clearly it doesn't. The Nebraska issue just bolsters my point. Nebraska didn't get a full share, so that that means the other schools actually got an inflated share than they other wise would. That means, the $7.6 million figure would be even lower if the money was distributed equally. That puts the Big Ten's actual payout even lower than the $12.2 million they should get using your formula. That makes your formula even less accurate. Again, the point is, there are more factors that have to be considers (like expenses) to determine the actual payout for the Big 12. You are not accounting for those figures in your calculations. You are simply adding up the subscription fees, and claiming $8 million a year for the Big 12, without subtracting anything for factors like expenses. That artificially inflates the total. [/QUOTE]
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