Expectations and stadium expansion

[catvet]

1. I thought with our returing talent and tough schedule that we would be lucky to win 4 games and 5 wins would be a very good year. I've been to all of the home games and have seen enough of our deficiencies to realize that we have played as about as good as our talent level will allow. I'm not going to beat a dead horse, but against the top teams we have a sporadic offense at best and below average QB play and WR that can't make the tough catches. I am still hopeful that we can win at least one more game, but it is going to be difficult. I'm not giving this team a free pass, but with the exception of the second halves of Auburn and Alabama, they have played thier guts out, Tyson Lee included. I wish we had a better option this year, but we didn't. Kudos to this group.

2. If MSU fans can't get off of their sorry asses and come to the game, then I would hope that we never even consider expansion. Tonight, Alabama fans made up at least 30% of the crowd, and that is embarassing as hell. I had then all over the place in the MSU area that I was in indicating that MSU folks sold or did not purchase these tickets. It sucks watching these bastards celebrate in our stadium and make enough noise to disrupt play. This is not on them, it is on us for not buying tickets and comming or selling them online or to a scalper to put those bama ******** in the seats. If we are not going to come out in masse to these games, then all a stadium expansion would do is make this like playing on a neutral field or at Bryant Denny. In either case, screw expansion until we make this place a stadium to dread instead of handing them a level playing field.

 

[catvet]

1. I thought with our returing talent and tough schedule that we would be lucky to win 4 games and 5 wins would be a very good year. I've been to all of the home games and have seen enough of our deficiencies to realize that we have played as about as good as our talent level will allow. I'm not going to beat a dead horse, but against the top teams we have a sporadic offense at best and below average QB play and WR that can't make the tough catches. I am still hopeful that we can win at least one more game, but it is going to be difficult. I'm not giving this team a free pass, but with the exception of the second halves of Auburn and Alabama, they have played thier guts out, Tyson Lee included. I wish we had a better option this year, but we didn't. Kudos to this group.

2. If MSU fans can't get off of their sorry asses and come to the game, then I would hope that we never even consider expansion. Tonight, Alabama fans made up at least 30% of the crowd, and that is embarassing as hell. I had then all over the place in the MSU area that I was in indicating that MSU folks sold or did not purchase these tickets. It sucks watching these bastards celebrate in our stadium and make enough noise to disrupt play. This is not on them, it is on us for not buying tickets and comming or selling them online or to a scalper to put those bama ******** in the seats. If we are not going to come out in masse to these games, then all a stadium expansion would do is make this like playing on a neutral field or at Bryant Denny. In either case, screw expansion until we make this place a stadium to dread instead of handing them a level playing field.

 

[bulldogballa]

a lot of Bama fans bought the three game mini packs of season tickets and they sell the tickets to the other games. Its some of their only hopes to see Bama play seeing as how they have a waiting list a mile long at their place

 

[catvet]

The minipack was Houston, Ga. Tech and Florida. Bama wasn't in there.

 

[FlabLoser]

Lots of Bama fans bought season tickets.

 

[catvet]

If we allow anyone to buy season ticket, then let these Tiders pay for our upgrades by making them buy $400 seats plus the $240 season ticket. It looked like all of the upper deck on the West side and a third of the upper sky dawg section were bama fans. If they want to buy season tickets, let them buy the high priced ones.

 

[FlabLoser]

Our high priced season tickets are sold out to paying Bulldog Club members (obviously many Bama fans are also Bulldog Club members). But what are you gonna do...kick out presumably legitimate BC members so Bama fans can buy some high priced tickets?

 

[catvet]

that if MSU wants to build a program for the first time, then our people are going to have to purchase these tickets and support this program. It should embarrass all of us that the record crowd was due to 15,000-18,000 bama fans and not our own folks. The camera should pan in and see a small section of Crimson is a sea of Maroon.

 

[DAWGWOOD34]

I too was surprised and disgusted with the number of crimson turd fans in my section. It's bad enough losing to those jackasses, but having bunches of them sitting amongst a STATE section and having to listen to those obnoxious bastards crow... To quote a fellow alum sitting next to me, "This is ********." If you can't sell your tickets to a STATE fan, burn the sonsabitches!

 

[MississippiHeavyMetalDawg]

Really. You saw more than I did. They usually stick out because the ones in my section were rather large and obnoxious. I would've guessed about 7,000 - 8,000. Within about 10 rows of Section E around me (about 300 people), I'd say there were less than 20 Bama fans. They do stand out though because they are ALL obnoxious and you usually never see visiting fans in this section.

Anyone that's ever been to a road game at Bama: Please tell me that the fans that travel to Starkville don't represent their University. If so, then my stereotype of Bama fans IS true.

 

[urethrafranklin]

if you really have a problem with it, get onto the fans bringing their coworkers, family members and friends. thats all you can do, and they probably won't stop.

 

[dawgstudent]

the old upper deck sits around 6K and about 1000 were State fans. I have no idea how many were in the new upper deck (maybe 1K?) but I am guessing there were about 3K more in the regular visitor sections and others scattered around.

 

[catvet]

If anyone happened to see any of the Penn State/Ohio State game, they showed an aerial view and you saw a tiny Ohio St. section surrounded by a sea of white. I buy four season tickets and unless their is a family crisis, I'm at the games. To have a a great program, we need to buy those tickets and attend the games. If it rains, so what. Get their and support this team. A couple of the MSU season ticket owner groups next to me show up at a couple of games and sell their tickets to whoever on the other games. Everyone on this board say they want this to be a great program, well do the things that it takes to get there. If Florida folks, yes there were ten of them next to me in the MSU section some from Gainesville and two from Tampa, can travel 10 or more hours to come follow their team, then can't our own fans come from Greenville, Gulfport, Hernando, etc. We finally have what appears to be a very good coaching staff and a chance to become a team that goes bowling on a regular basis. The rest is up to us to make this a place that kids want to play football at and opposing teams don't want to come to. It reeally is up to us.

 

[Oxford Godfrey]

Not a joke, I'm seriously asking. Does one fan base wear white?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Their crimson colored shirts are different from maroon. I thought you were smarter than that.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

It seems odd that Bama may have brought less than 10,000 fans. They get an 8k allotment right? And they are really close, and they have a number one team. They bring more than 10k to Oxford every year even when they suck.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

The crimson really is easy to pick out from the maroon.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

and the thirty four different shades of maroon they've pumped out on merchandise.

 

[dawgstudent]

by the middle of the 4th quarter - see who was in the stadium.

Honestly, it's easy when a good play happens for Bama.

They basically had all of rhe upper deck except where you see it oultlined. They had part of Section A and part of Section G - it was a mix of Bama and State fans They had W and V and for some reason which really pissed me off, the sections below the students in R and Q.

It might have been a shade over 10K. And like I said, I have no idea how many they had in the other upper deck.

 

[mjh94]

i heard something about Keenum revoking ticket privileges from faculty & staff that buy tickets, but don't go to the game.. why in the hell do they not have to scan their id's at the gate along with their tix? that makes perfect sense and it was VERY obvious they sell most of their tickets.. every <17>in game, the faculty/staff sections are covered up with the opposing fans.

by the middle of the 4th quarter - see who was in the stadium.

Honestly, it's easy when a good play happens for Bama.

They basically had all of rhe upper deck except where you see it oultlined. They had part of Section A and part of Section G - it was a mix of Bama and State fans They had W and V and for some reason which really pissed me off, the sections below the students in R and Q.

It might have been a shade over 10K. And like I said, I have no idea how many they had in the other upper deck.

 

[biguglyjoe]

buy season tickets when we play them there and blacklist em. Yeah, that's how I'd do it.

 

[mississippi architect]

I sit on the west side but the lower part of Q & R were almost all RED. It looked like over in G way too many were RED and way too many folks around me who are normally there had sold their tickets. Maybe the Ninja can start "educating" fans not to sell to them. But there were so many in the cheaper sections they must be buying season tickets. It will be interesting to see how ticket sales go next year.

 

[cowbell9]

...what with the Barrett thing and all. Did yall ban pillow cases?

 

[catvet]

in the stadium. They covered the visitors section along with Sections A, V, and W. The sky dawg section was at least 30-40% Crimson and they were scattered in other areas of the stadium in seats that had been previously held in other games by MSU fans. Even with that, my interest is in MSU fans to buy and attend these games so that other teams fans cannot.

 

[Sarc Dawg]

West side upper deck was almost full of them. End sections East and West were full of them. I have no problem with designated visitor sections being full, but there are way too many season ticket sections that were loaded with Bama fans. There should be an asterik by the attendance record because damn near a third of the crowd was Bama- it was embarrassing.

I sit in section R. I have 50 yard line tickets. The four seats in front of me have NEVER had state fans in them. Half of section R was Bama fans, and even more were in Q. It was almost as bad with UF and GT. These are prime seats no matter what people think. There is an easy way to fix this from happening again. Instead of the minimum 100 per seat donation, make it 250 or 300. Make it impossible for an opposing fan to sell the other 6 games at face value and cover the cost of tickets and donation. Or make everyone in the staff sections and R and Q scan their bone cards when they enter, if your tickets are used more then half the time without a, accompanying card scan then they are moved to a less prime seat next year.

And while I am at it a few more things:
1- The student section should be for MSU students. No visiting fan should ever be in the student section. Way to many people in those sections cheering at the wrong times.
2- The alumni tent should be for alumni and alumni guest. I arrived late and didn't tailgate for Bama. Went to the alumni tent for some free food and there were 2 tables full of Bama fans dressed head to toe sitting and eating there. Why? I'm all for being hospitable, but <17> that.

 

[msudawg12]

1 - basically whoever plays bama gets a decent number of bama fans at their games. Just ask Arizona State when boatloads of their season tickets disappeared.

2 - although I don't agree with it. I would say a decent number of fans saw a chance to get their $ back for their season tickets on a perceivably failed season in their minds and they want to be there next year when it gets better. ONCE AGAIN, I DONT AGREE WITH IT.

 

[Agentdog]

I know this has been covered over and over. However, two open ends of a stadium look terrible. It really does stick out when you watch other games from all over the country and they have some form of endzone seats connecting one side of the stadium to the other. Then you tune into ours and have bleachers and darkness on one end and a building on the other. It really makes the stadium look smaller than it really is. We need to enclose for this very reason alone.

As far as filling the seats, you already have those bleachers. So, you will at least have those there. Also, we are filling up the upper decks now. Those people could possiblily move to those seats. So, if you have any empties, it will be in the uppers and out of the TV camera's view. Not to mention just moving the student section down a section or two which guarantees that section is nearly full every game.

What should happen, State should expand in the north with a lower structure that expands all the way across and matches the heighth of the east and west lowers. Also, angle in one more section on the south end of the east and west side lowers. There is plenty of room there without obstructing the view of the Seal Building. Then when you have that in place, renovate the west side quarter deck and upper deck. It would probably take a few years. So, you would have some seating in place for those displaced fans. Also, you could easily comeback in 10-15 years and make an adition on the north endzone like we did on the east side.