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Hes protesting in a nonviolent way. You dont have to like it. I dont like it. But he has the right to. Thats why this is the best country.
Why do people keep saying this? Name me one person that has ever said he doesn't have the right to say what he says. People who keep repeating this are just cowards who don't want to take a stand against his crap. There are LOTS of things that people have the "right" to do that are still stupid and wrong.
Yes, he has the right to open his mouth, insert his foot and chew vigorously...and we have the right to vilify him for it.
I'd be the first to fight for his right to do it, and I'd also be the first to tell him why he's wrong on so many issues, and an ignorant idiot.
I think he has the right to protest, just not on " company time".
By staying silent, the NFL condones this behavior, it will spread.
Here's the link if you want to express your opinion. I notified sponsors as well.
http://www.corporateoffice.com/NFL.html
By staying silent, the NFL condones this behavior, it will spread.
Here's the link if you want to express your opinion. I notified sponsors as well.
http://www.corporateoffice.com/NFL.html
Just a new victim leader - implementing a strategy that will not change one life – for a group of people that have struggled to survive in America. Same old story, just another day. Fast forward a few years and scratch your head wondering why your situation in this country is even worse than it was today and implement some other idiotic strategy that will further impoverish your community. Carry-on...
They keep saying it because it's true, and no one is going to physically stop Kap from doing it. Some have also moved on with life and it's not consuming them (me). NFL just got done with the Brady mess, think they want to go through another legal fight, that if it went to the SC, Kap has a real good shot at winning? I don't agree with his method of protest, but wanted to answer the question.
He has the right to do what he is doing but IMO what he did the other night was a disgrace. That game was meant to honor those that gave him that right. It was a total lack of respect. It's not about you. It was about showing respect for others. IMO he failed in all aspects of his stance. It is my right to say that I have no respect for that human being.
I'd like to see Kap, and the entire black race who care so much about black lives, take a stance on the violence in Chicago.
I definitely think there are way better ways to protest something than what he did and I'm pretty sure a lot of men and women that have served will support his right to protest against a government he feels is failing the people. With his resources are there much better avenues... sure, but this is what freedom is about and while I personally wouldn't do it. I don't feel the need to vilify it either.
I will gladly open a one way ticket booth for all those people who think our country is so bad. I'm sure I could raise enough money to pay for having their belongings shipped to them. But then again, those belongings were acquired from such an unfair, hateful, racist country that they probably won't want them as a reminder of such a terrible place they came from. In any case I am sure they would have no problem finding charitable and benevolent people and organizations to get them on their feet.
BTW, on the back of the one way tickets I would print, "don't let the door hit you in the *** on your way out".
BTW, on the back of the one way tickets I would print, "don't let the door hit you in the *** on your way out".
While I think their stance is dumb, saying deal with it or get out is stupid. You should always look to progress and grow as a country. Resting on your old thoughts is what ruins things.
I don't believe this cop issue, it's more of a couple people who are bad getting stereotyped. But, this country is not perfect and immune from criticism.
He has the right to protest and the NFL has the right to kick his a$$ out of the NFL. I hope the NFL exercises that right.
If you think it doesn't get brought up, you're lazy. And not just a little bit lazy, like, "Oh is your google broken" lazy. Guess you missed that ESPN just hosted this event, IN CHICAGO:
http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-r...athletes-responsibility-violence-thursday-es/
Basically the first thing Rondo did when he got to Chicago was try to see how he could start combating this problem. Wade has been working against it.
Lock it, boys. We've had this conversation too many times already and we've clearly identified who is on which side of which narrative.
I think what he meant by it never gets covered, is that it never gets covered when you compare it to the coverage they give police shootings. Cop shoots somebody, coverage non stop for days or weeks and if we're really lucky a city gets burnt down and people lose their business. Inner city murder, no matter how deadly the weekend or month, barely gets a sentence and you never see the usual jackasses Sharpton and such spouting off in front of a mic. That's my best guess of what he meant and if you asked yourself an honest question about the ratio of coverage I think you'd say something like...90/10 in favor of the cop shootings. Seems to me like you have to go looking pretty hard to find the 10.
Painting with a broad brush aren't we?
What CK is doing isn't stupid or wrong to many people.
If somebody thinks that, then they should stand behind that argument instead of whether he has the "right" to say what he says-an argument which nobody has made.
But not every military member feels that CK is being disrespectful. In fact many have applauded him (right or wrong). So who is right?
Why do people always go to Chicago for the reason to not bring up injustices that black people feel on a regular basis? Because Chicago is riddled with black on black crime, does that mean other injustices can't be discussed?
I'll say my first reaction to his protest was very similar to most on this board. It was "dear God, what is he hoping to prove? If you don't like what America has provided for you, go somewhere else and see if it's better." - but as I've had a chance to digest a lot of this, I think not only is it his right, but it's OK because it has generated a ton of conversation on a touchy topic. Without conversation and thoughtful reflection, we can't progress, so I don't see his protest as ugly as others do. He isn't burning flags. He isn't rioting on the streets. There is no violence from his protest. Is that really that harmful to everyone?
I agree, nobody here has made that argument. Unfortunately I had a cousin-in-law saying that CK shouldn't have the right to sit or kneel during the National Anthem. I'm not sure if he truly meant it or not.
I'm really curious how all of the white people in this thread suggest Kaepernick should go about protesting. Presumably in some manner that is easy to ignore and, thus, completely ineffective?
Chicago doesn't even rank in murders per capita. Not even top 20. To hear this board tell it, I dodge bullets every time I drive downtown. It's nothing more than a pet talking point for people who want an excuse to ignore people when they assert that you get treated differently in this country based on what you look like. "Black people don't get to have an opinion until they fix Chicago." The translation is, "Your opinion has no value to me." The only thing that changes is the reason they give for not valuing the opinion.
If that's fair, then I want all the Italian guys off this board. No opinions on football or anything else for you until you end organized crime. Sounds awfully dumb when we apply it to another demographic, doesn't it? And yet I hear it every single time there is a conversation about racial issues. It's a child's logic, like whining to your parents that your friend doesn't have to clean his room when they tell you to clean yours.
The fact that people know it exists in order to use it as a talking point in these conversations proves that's false. For an issue that "nobody talks about" people sure do seem to have heard of it.
BTW I meant to ask you guys, are you feeling triggered by Kap's actions? Could you all use a safe space where you can go to not be offended by having to be made aware that his opinion differs from yours? Did he micro-aggress you?
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Isn't this like the pot calling the kettle black? You seem to get pretty worked up over other's opinions on this board when it comes to politics.
Considering Kap is bi-racial, your comments are ridiculous. Or, maybe he doesn't have a leg to stand on since he's bi-racial? Only "true 100% black" people can make suggestions, or share their opinion. Is that what you want? Is it okay I responded to you, or do you want to see my race make-up before answering?
I'm so sick of this crap, all it continues to do is divide the nation instead of bringing it together.
I've had some more time to think about it, and I've decided kap can go eff himself.
Obviously if this does not work out for him, as a white person I recommend he chains himself up in the center field of the Albuquerque Isotopes field and go on a hunger strike.
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I don't think it's ridiculous to point out that, when it comes to black people expressing concern over the way our society treats them on a systematic level, there doesn't seem to be any way that is acceptable to white America (generally speaking, obviously) and which would actually be somewhat effective. Kaepernick has gotten people otherwise inclined to avoid thinking and discussing "political" issues to think about how our country can do better in the way it treats black people. That's the first step in actually accomplishing systematic change and I, for one, praise him for his efforts. If you step back and actually listen to what he has to say, he is extremely patriotic; so patriotic, in fact, that he expects our country to live up to the ideals it is supposedly founded upon and is willing to use the platform he has, and personally sacrifice, in order to help make sure it happens.
Lights out, dead on, nailed it. If your wife asks you to help out around the house a little more, you don't scream, "IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY I SPEND MY TIME THEN FILE FOR DIVORCE!" You work together to find a method that can better serve everyone involved.
He certainly has every right to get his point across however he decides. But, if he ever has to call the cops for something, if he ever needs the men in blue to protect him from something, if he's in need of protection or needs the police at his home, I hope they take their sweet time to get there.
"black people", "white America", "better treat black people". Nothing about black on black crime. Nothing about black on white crime. It's a one-way street, you've been clear with that.
Ya, he's so patriotic, he disrespects the millions of soldiers that have fought for this country. The same country, or as you say "white America", that he despises how "black people" are treated.
Go ahead, keep supporting those who continue to divide this country. And I'll continue to call them out. After all, I'm a part of "white America". Or am I?
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