Fact: We are stuck with Stans forever at MSU...

fishwater99

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With Byrne gone, Stans not taking another job and the NCAA expanding to 96 teams, he is here to stay until he retires.
If he would just get an assistant to teach and implement a half court offense besides the motionless motion or the stand and shoot.
MSU lives and dies by the 3 ball, next year will be even worse with our center shooting 3's.



“As long as y’all are going to keep me here, as long as I can keep Kyle [yes, that's me] from saying too many bad things about me, I think we’re here — it’s very obvious we’re here for the duration,” Stansbury said. “It’s 20 years already. Sometimes, guys, it takes something to really make you realize and appreciate just how good you have it. I think this is a good eye-opener for both of us.”

http://blogs.clarionledger.com/msu/2010/04/12/stansbury-there-was-no-way-i-could-walk-away-from-mississippi-state/</p>
 

fishwater99

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With Byrne gone, Stans not taking another job and the NCAA expanding to 96 teams, he is here to stay until he retires.
If he would just get an assistant to teach and implement a half court offense besides the motionless motion or the stand and shoot.
MSU lives and dies by the 3 ball, next year will be even worse with our center shooting 3's.



“As long as y’all are going to keep me here, as long as I can keep Kyle [yes, that's me] from saying too many bad things about me, I think we’re here — it’s very obvious we’re here for the duration,” Stansbury said. “It’s 20 years already. Sometimes, guys, it takes something to really make you realize and appreciate just how good you have it. I think this is a good eye-opener for both of us.”

http://blogs.clarionledger.com/msu/2010/04/12/stansbury-there-was-no-way-i-could-walk-away-from-mississippi-state/</p>
 

fishwater99

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With Byrne gone, Stans not taking another job and the NCAA expanding to 96 teams, he is here to stay until he retires.
If he would just get an assistant to teach and implement a half court offense besides the motionless motion or the stand and shoot.
MSU lives and dies by the 3 ball, next year will be even worse with our center shooting 3's.



“As long as y’all are going to keep me here, as long as I can keep Kyle [yes, that's me] from saying too many bad things about me, I think we’re here — it’s very obvious we’re here for the duration,” Stansbury said. “It’s 20 years already. Sometimes, guys, it takes something to really make you realize and appreciate just how good you have it. I think this is a good eye-opener for both of us.”

http://blogs.clarionledger.com/msu/2010/04/12/stansbury-there-was-no-way-i-could-walk-away-from-mississippi-state/</p>
 

Hanmudog

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Just to be sure I have this straight: Are you saying we shoot too many threes? I want to be clear on that.
 

Coach34

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Kodi, who everybody on the board raises hell about shooting 3's, finished the season as our 3rd best 3pt shooter behind Stick and Osby and ahead of Dee, Randy, Whitebread, and Turner
 

fishwater99

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<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">The problemis that Stans had no "go to guy" to run his offense around. In the past we had Jamont, Roberts, Austin, etc... Stans has no clue how to coach offensive team basketball. In the past he hada "playmaker" to run the show, which is not a bad thing in CBB. This year MSU had a bunch of role players with no offensive scheme, except to stand around and shoot 3 pointers. This year may have been Stan’s worst coaching performance in recent years and really shows how inept his offensive coaching really is. In the past he has made up for this inability with great team defense, rebounding, and hustling, this team did not show that until the very end of the season.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My Big problem is that Stans found this 4 guard gimmick and decided to live and die by the 3 pointer, instead of actually instituting a half court offense. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span>We don’t have any plays on offense.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The “Motion” offense is just an excuse for Stans to cover up his lack of having a half court offense.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>If we don't score in offensive transition we look just like a church-league team standing around and jacking three's.
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8dog

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in conference play. So he pretty much loaded up against our creampuff OOC schedule.
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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Who wants to see us more like Princeton (which is close to the academy ball he's familiar with) and their short, slow white-boy offense. Scores like 47 - 50 are more to his liking.
 

hatfieldms

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since coming up with his own thoughts would be entirely to much for his pea brain to handle. But hey, keep pounding away at we shoot to many 3's, and Stans isnt a good offensive coach. I'm sure there are still one or two people out there that have never seen you type that
 

fishwater99

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Dick Williams would out-coach Rick during any game. He actually had an offense that worked, he drew up plays and in-bounds. When Stans started we did run half-court sets. My question is what happened? Why do we not do that anymore? Why do we have to live and die by the 3 ball? You tell me what has happened they last few years with MSU basketball...
 

KurtRambis4

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I would say that the lack of an legit inside scoring threat would be one thing that's different, and the abundance of 3-point shooters...
 

dashriprock

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I can take folks on this board not wanting Stans to stay because of his record or whatever, but youconsistently post these moronic basketball coaching suggestions (i.e. suggesting the box and one for a defensive scheme ordemonstrating your lack of knowledgeof what the motion offense is) over and over and over. Please, for the love of all that is good. Shut the %*#* up or say something original.
 

fishwater99

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[b said:
MadDawg[/b]]Who wants to see us more like Princeton (which is close to the academy ball he's familiar with) and their short, slow white-boy offense. Scores like 47 - 50 are more to his liking.
Sorry to burst your bubble, whenI was younger I played where I was in the minority at a 5A school, late 80's. Now that I am in my 40's I do play Summer league at a Prep. But I am sure that league would be too much for your assto handle.
 

hatfieldms

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I wonder if he repeated every single thing Williams ever said to the point where the players then also pointed and laughed at him?
 

fishwater99

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[b said:
KurtRambis4[/b]]I would say that the lack of an legit inside scoring threat would be one thing that's different, and the abundance of 3-point shooters...
SWAT and Kodi both were effective inside this last year. The problem was Kodi was on the perimiter looking for an open 3. When we actually ran the high low with Kodi and SWATand/orOsby it worked pretty damngood. The problem is that was few and far between.In this age ofbasketball all teams have an abundance of 3 point shooters, that is just what kids work on growing up, dunks and 3 pointers. It is up to our coach to implement an effective offense and living and dying by the 3 ball is not gonna cut it.
 

fishwater99

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Sorry to burst your bubble. I am not John Brady, but I do know him and he likes a big chew of tobacco and a good transition offense.
 

mstateglfr

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Coach34 said:
Kodi, who everybody on the board raises hell about shooting 3's, finished the season as our 3rd best 3pt shooter behind Stick and Osby and ahead of Dee, Randy, Whitebread, and Turner
Hemay have finished the year as our 3rd best shooter in terms of %,but that is hardly how you should determine if someone is or isnt the best shooter and where they should rank.

And Osby being mentioned as the 2nd best outside shooter is a friggin joke.

Shooting % is part of what makes someone agood outside shooter, but its also the most easily manipulated stat.

Osby was beyond terrible for most of the year from behind the arc.
Augustus was 5 for the century for all but the last couple weeks of SEC play.

Shot selection is KEY to if someone is a good shooter, and Kodi lacked thatfor much of the season. Consistency is KEY toif someone is a good shooter, and not only was he inconsistent, he wasnt even close for much of the season.

I would rather someone go 2-5 every single game over a 30 game seasonthanhave7 games wherethey go 4-5 from deep,6 games where theygo3-4 from deep, and 17 games where they goa whopping14- 91.
 

LR1400

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fishwater99 said:
Sorry to burst your bubble. I am not John Brady, but I do know him and he likes a big chew of tobacco and a good transition offense.
And coeds.
 

tenureplan

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Is that 80% of his misses didn't hit iron.

I'm sure he would have the lowest percentage if you took away all of the banks...
 

KurtRambis4

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think he tried to recruit a post player? elgin, sucks, swat, (let's be honest, on O..sucks), etc etc. to suggest that he didn't try to recruit an inside player is just dumb fish...but that's nothing new from you
 

fishwater99

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[b said:
MadDawg[/b]]

and I could take you under the basket and school you or I could let you die by the three. Your choice.</p>
I doubt you could do much damage against me on the inside, butI will let you live and die by the 3 ball, just like your boy Stans.
 

patdog

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fishwater99 said:
Dick Williams would out-coach Rick during any game. He actually had an offense that worked, he drew up plays and in-bounds.
I like Richard Williams but some of his offensive teams were even more painful to watch than this year's.
 

Dawgbreeze

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This is how insane some of our posters are. kids want to get up and down the floor and the biggest challenge is teaching them how to play defense because most of them like Fish and Coach, want to stand around and play zone and rest. It might work in the Academy league but in 5A and college, tough defensive minded teams usually advance. .I would laugh if someone asked the 2011 class in Mississippi how many of them want to run a Princeton type offense. I can assure you, ZERO!
 

mstateglfr

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Dawgbreeze said:
This is how insane some of our posters are. kids want to get up and down the floor and the biggest challenge is teaching them how to play defense because most of them like Fish and Coach, want to stand around and play zone and rest. It might work in the Academy league but in 5A and college, tough defensive minded teams usually advance. .I would laugh if someone asked the 2011 class in Mississippi how many of them want to run a Princeton type offense. I can assure you, ZERO!
Its a wonder how any coach in America is able to get their players to not only play defense, but play suffocating defense.
Its also a wonder how any coach inAmerica is able to harness the energy that goes into an up and down game and direct itinto effecient play with smart decision making.

After all, the only thing players want to do is get up and down the floor, right?

How in hell are all these coachesfinding players that are willing to play tough D and makesmart decisions on offense?
 

whatever.sixpack

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I could see the resemblance between Fish and Brady. Both have receding hairlines that they try to cover up w/ comb overs and both could've been considered for special education in grade school.
 

Coach34

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because ya know, their head coach- John Thompson III, played at Princeton for Carill.....


You really need to stop posting old man and get back to looking for seas shells on the 17'ing beach