FBI looking for John Bond...

3000lbchicken

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everyone do the shakedown dance!

of course, my source is a crazed auburn fan claiming their program is squeaky clean because they have a former fbi agent on staff.</p>
 

MeridianDog

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Were any federal laws broken?

I didn't know it was against the law (federal) to seek money to sign a letter with a school. Certainly an NCAA violation and SEC violation.

Lawyer opinions?
 

ckDOG

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Why would the FBI want to get involved? Sounds like they would only be concerned on a level greater than just the Cam/Cecil/Aub/MSU/SEC level. I'm out of my element on this one...
 

rebelrouseri

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on around the horn right now. They are jumping to the conclusion that Meyer leaked the UF academic stuff to help his bud Mullen because Newton shunned him. They accept that as truth but don't care about the allegations against Newton since they happened two years ago.
 

chew1095

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I think this is most likely a money laundering charge or some sort of RICO charge.
 

snoopdog

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with the FBI, and must tell the truth, then called him "buddy" in a smart *** way. When this is said and done, I hope people flood the lines to Finebaum for giving the Newton's every benefit of the doubt and bashing Bond. Finebaum is a grade A homer prick, homer being for anything related to the state of Alabama.
 

MeridianDog

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Thanks for the link.

I see a made for TV movie. Wonder who will play dawgstudent?</p>
 

Spotdawg

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to the blast furnace. Things will move a little quicker and more decisively starting....ohhh, right about now.
 

FlabLoser

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Auburn buying Cam Newton doesn't break any laws. Just NCAA rules.

If there is anything to this at all, it is a shakedown to benefit Auburn. And that would be quite far fetched.
 

rabiddawg

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Laundering money through tax exempt institutions, I.E. The church is highly frowned on by the Feds
 

whistlerdog

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Rest assured that if Auburn paid then federal and most likely state laws too were violated.</p>
 

Shmuley

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and the crime would touch and concern a federal criminal statute of some kind. Racketeering, extortion, money laundering, tax evasion, wire fraud, bank fraud ... the possibilities are endless.

It seems obvious to me that the NCAA and the NFL are dead serious about shutting down rogue agent behavior. That's what this is really about people. F Auburn. They're along for the ride. This is about getting rid of the Kenny Rogers of the world and forcing the Ian Greengrosses of the world to get their **** straight.
 

Agentdog

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The most likely violation would be money laundering or structuring. I am sure the FBI would be interested in buying and selling of players but it will take many other cases involving other players. Probably what happen is the money got funneled through a church or business or was withdrawn and/or deposited in increments under $10,000.01 to avoid a CTR. Therefore a ML or structuring violation. You just don't go around writing and depositing checks which is a payment for recruiting violations. Just like with the "contacts" you have to go through many layers to hide it. Which if Cecil and Whomever else attempted to disguies the money through a bank, that could be trouble for all of them.

As for Finebaums under oath comment, he has not a clue. The FBI interviews witnesses (which that is what Bond is) all time and they are not placed underoath. Only time you would be underoath is if testifying before the grand jury or during trial. What a dip **** Finebaum is!
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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If it was just that... the Treasury department would go after them with at most Criminal Investigation or the Treasury Inspector General's Office for Tax Administration. And it would have to go through the channels of audits, collections, and so forth before that happened.<div>
</div><div>The FBI just doesn't get involved with a matter of not paying taxes. There would have to be some kind of racketeering, money laundering, or other nasty federal charge before the FBI would step in.</div>
 

o_Hot Rock

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Remember they got Capone on Tax evasion.

Plus, you must be licensed with the state in which the player lives in order to represent the player. They were not.
 

falzaergo

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I swear I was going to post earlier that this cheating scandel would go no where because it was a federal crime, and no one wanted the FBI poking around in NCAA business. I guess they are invoking the commerce clasue and gonna have a look anyway.

Like AD says" fun, fun, fun"
 

Agentdog

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IRS CI can start invEstigations without exam or collection being involved prior. This isn't a TIGTA type case.

But yes. Not reporting a one time payment of $200,000 usually would be a civil matter rather than criminal. Also, the
more I think about it. There has to be unlawful activity to charge moneylaundering. So the FBI is interested in something more. Which like was mentioned, the possibilities are endless.

Which in my opinion unless they can uncover evidence of numerous players being bought and sold, it is ridiculous for the recruitment of Newton to be a criminal investigation. Plenty of drug dealers and terrorist laundering money. By the way, one of the agents that worked the Logan Young case is a big UT fan.
 

Spotdawg

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Schmuley just knocked this one outta the park. The NFL and the Fed Govt have been waiting for a high profile, softball sports agent, errrr advisor case to come into aim. They just got it.

High Profile? Cam is hands down the projected Heisman winner on a team that is fighting for number 1 national ranking.
Softball? Hearing more and more that the smoking gun is in the hands of the authorities.
Message? The NFL and the Govt are all about messages. They can't find and prosecute them all. Nail an example of the problem to the wall and let all the other cockroaches see the remains. Speaking of cockroaches, there is some serious movement tonight--agents and advisors all over America are shredding, burning and finding places to stay out in the country with cousins.
 

Spotdawg

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This whole Cam Newton investigation just might be the entre' point that the Fed Govt has been looking for to get a look at the NCAA. The sports agents, runners, advisors....AND the NCAA are running scared tonight.

The last thing that the SEC, NCAA, et al want is the FBI probing around in the slush funds...dropped investigations....partial files....names......allegations...

You get the idea.

This whole thing just might be the Nagasaki of Collegiate Sports.
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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Agentdog said:
IRS CI can start invEstigations without exam or collection being involved prior. This isn't a TIGTA type case.

But yes. The more I think about it. There has to be unlawful activity to charge moneylaundering. So the FBI is interested in something more. Which like was mentioned, the possibilities are endless.

Which in my opinion unless they can uncover evidence of numerous players being bought and sold, it is ridiculous for the recruitment of Newton to be a criminal investigation. Plenty of drug dealers and terrorist laundering money. By the way, one of the agents that worked the Logan Young case is a big UT fan.
You are indeed right... that is not a situation that TIGTA would be involved in. However CI wouldn't snap straight to the case based on the happenings so far. CI routinely works cases with higher dollar amounts and just as much if not more complexity that this. I don't know the process of the IRS determining which cases head to exam or which cases head straight to CI, but I have worked with higher dollar cases that people did some shady things and get audited and then come around asking for guidance on it...and by guidance I'm talking about a way out of it. They usually snarl up when I tell em there is no way out but to come up with the money or start losing assets. Then they go hire some company like Tax Masters and pay them a couple grand to stall for a month or two and still have to come up with the money. <div>
</div><div>Long story shortened... the FBI stays out of civil tax matters... which is what it would be if he just took 200 grand and forgot about it when 1040 time came around.</div><div>
</div><div>But the smoke has went from a puff to solid black rolling smoke if it is true the FBI is wandering around.

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TR.sixpack

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This thing has always been about Kenny Rogers' actions. However, Auburn fans have panicked and gone from defensive to attack mode.