FC/OT: Tomlin stepping down.

KingLando

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Please let it be an offensive coach. I'd be ok with Stefanski to be honest. He took the freaking Browns to the playoffs twice in the past 5 years despite the compete incompetence by ownership. The roster is old and it's going to be a rebuild. Might as well have a dude that has experience dealing with shịt rosters.
I'm torn on Stefanski but agree about an OC
I'd be okay with Hafley or Shula if they bring in a quality OC though
 
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Think I read that only five of Tomlin’s 17 first round picks signed second contracts and only 8% of all picks under Tomlin signed second contracts. Oof.
Colbert was really bad his last 7 years as GM. 2016-2022. Those should be the main 30+ players on the team at this point.
2016 - artie burns in rd 1? hargrove was the best pick that year
2017 - 4 good picks with Watt, Juju, Sutton, Conner but Juju and Conner didnt stick around/weren't offered
2018 - another bad one, Rudolph and Chuks only decent ones. Edmunds and Washington 1/2nd.
2019 - Dionte JOhnson good in rd 2, but Bush was garbage as with the rest of them
2020 - 1st for Minkah, Claypoole traded for JPJ and then Highsmith in 3. Overall a decent draft due to the trades
2021 - Harris was just avg, Muth is solid but not used enough, Green was thought to be the starting C of the future, terrible.
2022 - Pickett and Pickens, Heyward and Austin are on the team but not regulars.

Total of about 15 guys from those drafts still on the roster, thats a terrible %
 

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Colbert was really bad his last 7 years as GM. 2016-2022. Those should be the main 30+ players on the team at this point.
2016 - artie burns in rd 1? hargrove was the best pick that year
2017 - 4 good picks with Watt, Juju, Sutton, Conner but Juju and Conner didnt stick around/weren't offered
2018 - another bad one, Rudolph and Chuks only decent ones. Edmunds and Washington 1/2nd.
2019 - Dionte JOhnson good in rd 2, but Bush was garbage as with the rest of them
2020 - 1st for Minkah, Claypoole traded for JPJ and then Highsmith in 3. Overall a decent draft due to the trades
2021 - Harris was just avg, Muth is solid but not used enough, Green was thought to be the starting C of the future, terrible.
2022 - Pickett and Pickens, Heyward and Austin are on the team but not regulars.

Total of about 15 guys from those drafts still on the roster, thats a terrible %

Pickett was the worst of the worst. What was BGM doing or thinking?
 

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Trai was one of 21 players on both the 2005 and 2008 Superbowl winning rosters. He was also on the 2010 team that lost to the Packers in the SB. Not just some jabroni on a message board that has a weird fetish for Tomlin.
Watch yourself or you will be referred to Tom as being a stalker and having been tossed off numerous PSU boards! We are laughing our butts off at that lunatic
 
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Colbert was really bad his last 7 years as GM. 2016-2022. Those should be the main 30+ players on the team at this point.
2016 - artie burns in rd 1? hargrove was the best pick that year
2017 - 4 good picks with Watt, Juju, Sutton, Conner but Juju and Conner didnt stick around/weren't offered
2018 - another bad one, Rudolph and Chuks only decent ones. Edmunds and Washington 1/2nd.
2019 - Dionte JOhnson good in rd 2, but Bush was garbage as with the rest of them
2020 - 1st for Minkah, Claypoole traded for JPJ and then Highsmith in 3. Overall a decent draft due to the trades
2021 - Harris was just avg, Muth is solid but not used enough, Green was thought to be the starting C of the future, terrible.
2022 - Pickett and Pickens, Heyward and Austin are on the team but not regulars.

Total of about 15 guys from those drafts still on the roster, thats a terrible %
I agree but don't forget that Rooney is in on all the picks as well. He's got a touch of Jerry Jones in his system. Not full on Jerry, but it's in there.
 

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A lot of that is on Tomlin who had a lot of sway when it came to roster management (hence, the expensive/aging D).

Other teams were able to find QBs mid to late in the 1st round or in later rounds.

Otoh, Tomlin was the one who brought in Trubisky, Pickett, Wilson, Fields and Rodgers.

Even if Tomlin had a promising, young QB, do you really think his picks for OCs would have done a good job in developing such a QB?

Especially behind an O-line that still really hasn't been fixed.

While there are similarities btwn Tomlin and Franklin, his doppelganger in the college ranks is Fitzgerald.
Was Tomlinson drafting the players?
 

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Trai was one of 21 players on both the 2005 and 2008 Superbowl winning rosters. He was also on the 2010 team that lost to the Packers in the SB. Not just some jabroni on a message board that has a weird fetish for Tomlin.
Weird fetish….wait and see what happens with this moron if the Rooney’s hire Brian Flores!
 
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The players were all in on Mike. Interesting moment after Tomlin's farewell speech...
When Tomlin was done, every player in the room rose for a standing ovation. Tomlin tipped his cap and moved toward the door, where an impromptu receiving line formed, every player exchanging words and hugs with their now-former coach.
 

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The players were all in on Mike. Interesting moment after Tomlin's farewell speech...
When Tomlin was done, every player in the room rose for a standing ovation. Tomlin tipped his cap and moved toward the door, where an impromptu receiving line formed, every player exchanging words and hugs with their now-former coach.
Someone should have reminded Watt he's never won a playoff game in his career so this can only help.
Nothing wrong with them caring about Tomlin but anyone not comprehending this was necessary for everyone involved needs to reevaluate things.
 

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Someone should have reminded Watt he's never won a playoff game in his career so this can only help.
Nothing wrong with them caring about Tomlin but anyone not comprehending this was necessary for everyone involved needs to reevaluate things.
The Steelers players were simply showing their appreciation for someone who always had their backs. They know it’s a business, they see teammates get cut every day. I’m sure there of plenty of Steelers players who are happy with the change, they loved Tomlin but knew it was his time to leave. Feeling this way in no way diminishes their gratitude for being part of a team with him, having him as their coach.

Remember the ending of the NYPD cop show Barney Miller? All the detectives loved Barney but needed him to move on, told him so straight out.
 

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The Steelers players were simply showing their appreciation for someone who always had their backs. They know it’s a business, they see teammates get cut every day. I’m sure there of plenty of Steelers players who are happy with the change, they loved Tomlin but knew it was his time to leave. Feeling this way in no way diminishes their gratitude for being part of a team with him, having him as their coach.

Remember the ending of the NYPD cop show Barney Miller? All the detectives loved Barney but needed him to move on, told him so straight out.

Yes, they both ran out of new material. And fans
 

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I caught a snippet of Rooney talking to the media yesterday. "Our goal every year is to win championships" or some useless phrase. Yeah could have fooled me. What was it after 7 straight playoff losses and a rudderless ship with no QB strategy that you didn't comprehend? You don't win championships with hope you win them with strong leadership starting with the owner and a competent innovative management and coaching staff. I contend the Steelers had incompetence for at least the last 7-8 years. This includes Rooney III or IV or whatever one has been in charge during this run of failure and mediocrity.
 

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I caught a snippet of Rooney talking to the media yesterday. "Our goal every year is to win championships" or some useless phrase. Yeah could have fooled me. What was it after 7 straight playoff losses and a rudderless ship with no QB strategy that you didn't comprehend? You don't win championships with hope you win them with strong leadership starting with the owner and a competent innovative management and coaching staff. I contend the Steelers had incompetence for at least the last 7-8 years. This includes Rooney III or IV or whatever one has been in charge during this run of failure and mediocrity.

After listening to BGM for 20 years, I'm sure he picked up on the art of the useless platitude
 

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The Steelers players were simply showing their appreciation for someone who always had their backs. They know it’s a business, they see teammates get cut every day. I’m sure there of plenty of Steelers players who are happy with the change, they loved Tomlin but knew it was his time to leave. Feeling this way in no way diminishes their gratitude for being part of a team with him, having him as their coach.

Remember the ending of the NYPD cop show Barney Miller? All the detectives loved Barney but needed him to move on, told him so straight out.
All fair but that wasn't the full reaction and we've seen countless comments from players that aren't happy with a move that was necessary
See the comment by Trai Essex--they can support him while acknowledging it was time
 

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All fair but that wasn't the full reaction and we've seen countless comments from players that aren't happy with a move that was necessary
See the comment by Trai Essex--they can support him while acknowledging it was time
This happens every time a popular coach loses his job. I’m sure the Baltimore players gave Harbaugh a similar send-off.
 

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This happens every time a popular coach loses his job. I’m sure the Baltimore players gave Harbaugh a similar send-off.
I mean, Lamar hasn't even comment on it. Henry and Stanley definitely weren't crying over Harbaugh being fired.
It's very possible some have expressed frustration or sadness but on national level it's not getting a 10th of the coverage Tomlin's resignation is getting regarding his players reactions.

That's not even considering Harbaugh coached in an AFCCG 2 years ago--Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game since 2016.

Players can absolutely be sad their coach is being fired but trying to defend him is absurd at this point.
 

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I can just see him sitting at home in his soiled undies, yelling at his computer right now
In his 18 hours a day on the computer… starts at 4-5am… at least 2 PSU sites, the Pitt board, Facebook and Reddit… his entire life is spent bitching on social media…if I ever make it to 80 I will never let my life turn into this.,
 

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In his 18 hours a day on the computer… starts at 4-5am… at least 2 PSU sites, the Pitt board, Facebook and Reddit… his entire life is spent bitching on social media…if I ever make it to 80 I will never let my life turn into this.,
Definitely no way to live life. Imagine the years he's wasted doing nothing but that lol. No wonder he doesn't want to live in reality
 
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Wait. At least 12/13 years of abject hopelessness regarding my Steelers and I'm now supposed to 'show respect'? Why? Wasn't this man gainfully employed and making $16 million per year? I have no idea what for, but that's plenty of 'respect' right there. He doesn't need, and won't get, anything from me. And, btw, that applies to literally every Steelers fan that I know. Respect? LoL OK.