Fear the Walking Dead
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Will be near impossible to meet the greatness of it's parent show but I am still excited about it.
Almost a to ordinary family. Wtf was that kid wearing at the start of the episode??
It might not turn out to be as great as a lot of others shows but it's going to draw interest being part of twd. You would like to think some of the regular cast could be part of it showing them before it went down but this one is based out west so I don't see it happening.
It might not turn out to be as great as a lot of others shows but it's going to draw interest being part of twd. You would like to think some of the regular cast could be part of it showing them before it went down but this one is based out west so I don't see it happening.
:thumbsdown: Disappointed. Too much character developement. Hard to believe that walkers could hide in the city and go undetected. The only character that has a clue is a fat kid. I dont care about the kids drug addiction, none of them damn teachers or the guys wiseass kid...git to killing and eating people or next week will be my last episode. I dont have the attention span to follow 2 walking Deads where theres people drama and walkers show up.
Already have questions. First, we all know that the virus is airborne so everyone is infected. Are they trying to say Originally it wasn't and the virus mutated or something? What I'm getting at is the zombification would happen rather quick as tons of people die a day everywhere. It wouldn't be oh here's one zombie, now here's another. They would just be popping up everywhere. Unless by airborne, you have to be in close proximity to another infected.
I don't see this series lasting as long, before long it won't be any different than the other, just on the opposite coast.
I don't see this series lasting as long, before long it won't be any different than the other, just on the opposite coast.
Its not really. Thats what I found disappointing. I expected full blown violence and chaos right out of the gate. Instead here we are AGAIN dragging out characters. I dont mind it in the original, but up to this point its TWD-west coat edition. In the previews, it was said "when society falls it falls fast"....then they spend 15 minutes on 2 characters irrelevant romantic relationship that almost made me doze off in the recliner.
I tend to agree with Brassow above, zombies should be popping up everywhere and with such a dense population, it should be total chaos rather quickly.
Definitely was disappointed in the the first episode. Other than the few minutes where they showed the junkie's girlfriend eating the guys face and then the drug dealer being used as a speed bump, it was pretty boring. I figured it would be a little slow developing the story, but I would have liked a faster build up and not start to see the ish hit the fan with like 3 minutes to go in the episode.
If I was writing the story I think I would have started off at the school with the teacher and his wife and mentioning about the large number of kids not at school. Then have them noticing a lot of weird things happening in their travels to home and work. I would have kept a lot of the family situations out of it and incorporate them into some flashback scenes in other episodes. They could have done a few more scenes like the police shooting the zombie on the freeway to make the teacher and his wife wonder what is going on.
I would have had them not find out about the wife's son until toward the end of the episode. Have them find out he is in the hospital after overdosing if they want to go with the junkie storyline. He could wake up from a nightmare and find himself in the hospital They learn that he overdosed after something he saw happen and trying to cope with it. Finish the episode with a lot of chaos in the hospital and have the junkie's roommate die and be the first actual zombie that they witness face to face.
The 2nd episode could basically show the hospital looking like ground zero for the epidemic and they could do a more in depth storyline to show basically what happened at Rick's hospital in TWD during the month (or whatever the timeframe was) he was in a coma, but at this hospital. Show people dying and turning into zombies left and right and the family trying to escape from the hospital.
If I was writing the story I think I would have started off at the school with the teacher and his wife and mentioning about the large number of kids not at school. Then have them noticing a lot of weird things happening in their travels to home and work. I would have kept a lot of the family situations out of it and incorporate them into some flashback scenes in other episodes. They could have done a few more scenes like the police shooting the zombie on the freeway to make the teacher and his wife wonder what is going on.
I would have had them not find out about the wife's son until toward the end of the episode. Have them find out he is in the hospital after overdosing if they want to go with the junkie storyline. He could wake up from a nightmare and find himself in the hospital They learn that he overdosed after something he saw happen and trying to cope with it. Finish the episode with a lot of chaos in the hospital and have the junkie's roommate die and be the first actual zombie that they witness face to face.
The 2nd episode could basically show the hospital looking like ground zero for the epidemic and they could do a more in depth storyline to show basically what happened at Rick's hospital in TWD during the month (or whatever the timeframe was) he was in a coma, but at this hospital. Show people dying and turning into zombies left and right and the family trying to escape from the hospital.
I also will likely stop watching this if it turns into another zombie soap opera. TWD does enough of that already. This one needs to be about the zombies first and how humanity is surviving the zombie apocalypse second. With a large portion of the world's population dying and becoming zombies in a matter of a few weeks, it would make no sense emphasizing the living as much.
I want to see how bad the world got while Rick was in his hospital bed. They barely scratched the surface of what happened there and why Shane abandoned Rick at the hospital. I think it would be interesting if down the road they tied in survivors from both shows into one show.
I want to see how bad the world got while Rick was in his hospital bed. They barely scratched the surface of what happened there and why Shane abandoned Rick at the hospital. I think it would be interesting if down the road they tied in survivors from both shows into one show.
I enjoyed the show. Character introduction and attempting to connect with an audience; I think a younger audience is the target.
Just a heads up, they aren't changing much from the formula that has made them millions and millions of dollars. Different setting at a different time, but their angles are going to be the same. This is about money, not diversifying the zombie experience.
I expected awful and this did not disappoint.
Not sure if my favorite part was the mom/school counselor or whatever the hell she was finding a knife on a student who was talking about crazy **** and just letting him walk out the door, or
the nice sweet black guy who was vacuuming what I presume to be his handicapped "Gran's" minivan, lol wait, he's actually the heroin dealer and is the first character we've met to be killed, or
the fact we got some Indians, whites, junkies, angsty teenagers, interracial relationships and divorcees all from the same family. Which one of them is gay? I'm sure we'll find out eventually.
Not sure if my favorite part was the mom/school counselor or whatever the hell she was finding a knife on a student who was talking about crazy **** and just letting him walk out the door, or
the nice sweet black guy who was vacuuming what I presume to be his handicapped "Gran's" minivan, lol wait, he's actually the heroin dealer and is the first character we've met to be killed, or
the fact we got some Indians, whites, junkies, angsty teenagers, interracial relationships and divorcees all from the same family. Which one of them is gay? I'm sure we'll find out eventually.
Haven't watched it yet but was certain to click on this thread to get the panning of the show it may or may not deserve. Hahaha
I liked it. Probably because when held up in comparison to Sunday night's other apocalyptic drama, The Strain, which is awful, this show makes a lot of sense.
For example- when there's ONE suspected zombie sighting (after people start getting a mysterious flu, "missing" signs popping up, etc.) the populace starts to react. Chatter online, schools closing, general unease- all within the first 24 hours or so. Compare that to The Strain, which is awful, wherein NYC has been overrun by vampires for a few months now and folks are still getting takeout, taking the bus at night, swimming, etc.
Plus I'll take the heroin junkie kid over the annoying doofus kid from The Strain, which is awful, all day airday.
I assume this week was stage setting and stuff starts going downhill fast. Again, unlike The Strain, which is awful.
(disclosure- I haven't actually watched The Strain in a few weeks, because it's awful.)
For example- when there's ONE suspected zombie sighting (after people start getting a mysterious flu, "missing" signs popping up, etc.) the populace starts to react. Chatter online, schools closing, general unease- all within the first 24 hours or so. Compare that to The Strain, which is awful, wherein NYC has been overrun by vampires for a few months now and folks are still getting takeout, taking the bus at night, swimming, etc.
Plus I'll take the heroin junkie kid over the annoying doofus kid from The Strain, which is awful, all day airday.
I assume this week was stage setting and stuff starts going downhill fast. Again, unlike The Strain, which is awful.
(disclosure- I haven't actually watched The Strain in a few weeks, because it's awful.)
Does the word "zombie" ever even get uttered TWD? You'd think people would realize quickly what was going on - even if they didn't believe they existed before - because everyone understands the zombie theory. Also, why the need to call them Walkers? They already have a name everyone is aware of, Zombies. It feels unnecessary to have to come up with a new name for them.
I actually read that Stan Lee tried to trademark the word zombies back in the 70's but it didn't last long before he lost it. He trademarked Marvel Zombies more recently though.
“One of the things about this world is that people don’t know how to shoot people in the head at first, and they’re not familiar with zombies, per se,” Kirkman said on “Talking Dead.” “This isn’t a world the (George) Romero movies exist, for instance … because we don’t want to portray it that way, we felt like having them be saying ‘zombie’ all the time would harken back to all of the zombie films which we, in the real world, know about.
“So by calling them something different, we’re kind of giving a nod to … these people don’t understand the situation. They’ve never seen this in pop culture, this is a completely new thing for them.”
Pretty sure the junkie angle was to show why it wasn't automatically ---->"OH **** DEAD PEOPLE ARE EATING PEOPLE RUN!!!!" When you go through the junkie, in the setting of the heroin den church, it's reasonable that people wouldn't believe him. So you have the tone of impending doom, but not the certainty (from the characters' perspective). It was all just part of the build-up, IMO.
Then you aren't in the target market. Should have read more about the show before watching.
The show is awful just like twd but I'm sure everybody knew it was gonna be other than the fanboys. They basically did a spin off because they knew it would make $. Much like twd it won't win any awards for it's story or acting it's just entertainment for the masses.
With only 6 episodes, one would think there wouldnt be time for character developement. They said it would be more action packed then put it out there "when society falls it falls fast". TWD people said one thing then (up to this point) appear to be doing another. Critics of TWD harp about "filler" and character developement so with only 6 episodes to fill and TWD coming along a month later, I thought for sure they would target the Attention Deficit disorder crowd a little more. If all they were going to do is the same thing and target the same market, why promote it as otherwise? Reminds me of Tubby and his promise of faster tempo only to get the same Tubby ball. Like I said, Im going to give it another episode or two before giving up but at this point Im a little disappointed. In a few weeks I hope Im eating crow.
Not sure how anyone can be disappointed in the first episode since it is showing what would probably be the natural progression of the virus/disease and societies reaction to it. I actually liked the ominous nature of the first episode with the high school kid dropping the tidbit about the microbe or bacteria being in 5 states and them not knowing what it is, and how the counselor just brushes it off as nothing (what most people would do). Also, how the kids in the school keep dwindling day by day. Then, finally, the leaked youtube video of the walker taken out on the overpass. It just seems more authentic to me that way, like that is how it would all go down if it were happening in real life.
I believe that by the end of the 2nd episode, it will be the all out military invasion that people are wanting to see as society begins to break down.
Things I want to see before the end of the six episode season are:
1. Some kind of theory on how this thing started. Since Dr. Jenner from CDC on TWD S01-E06 said that the virus is already in everyone, then what caused it to mutate or what caused it to be awakened from dormancy or whatever? Was it something in the water? Air? Some food perservative? Some kind of plant spore? What? The easiest explanation would be that it is the apocalypse gene, something in our DNA that is dormant, but is awakened at some point either by nature or by divine intervention, to signal the end of days, but I'm really hoping they don't go that route and instead find a catalyst, something that triggered the dormant gene, especially something man-made, because of the irony of it all.
2. I want to see or hear news reports from other cities showing the effects of the outbreak there, just to help broaden the horizon on the show a little bit. Maybe even show the bombing of Atlanta to tie in the two shows together. TWD has been so encapsulated in Georgia, and now Virginia area, with very little talk of how it is elsewhere (the only little bit we got was Abraham's back-story) I'd like to see or hear how other states are dealing with the threat.
3. I want to see more CDC involvement (i.e. setting up quarantines for those they believe are infected) and possibly see their panic at the realization that the disease is incurable and unstoppable.
4. I want to see the military breakdown from the original "we have orders to...blah, blah, blah" to the vigilante squads they will probably become as the walkers begin to overtake the city and they turn from being protectors to being as dangerous as the walkers they were defending people against.
For me, if I get this stuff in this show, then I'll be a very happy camper.
I believe that by the end of the 2nd episode, it will be the all out military invasion that people are wanting to see as society begins to break down.
Things I want to see before the end of the six episode season are:
1. Some kind of theory on how this thing started. Since Dr. Jenner from CDC on TWD S01-E06 said that the virus is already in everyone, then what caused it to mutate or what caused it to be awakened from dormancy or whatever? Was it something in the water? Air? Some food perservative? Some kind of plant spore? What? The easiest explanation would be that it is the apocalypse gene, something in our DNA that is dormant, but is awakened at some point either by nature or by divine intervention, to signal the end of days, but I'm really hoping they don't go that route and instead find a catalyst, something that triggered the dormant gene, especially something man-made, because of the irony of it all.
2. I want to see or hear news reports from other cities showing the effects of the outbreak there, just to help broaden the horizon on the show a little bit. Maybe even show the bombing of Atlanta to tie in the two shows together. TWD has been so encapsulated in Georgia, and now Virginia area, with very little talk of how it is elsewhere (the only little bit we got was Abraham's back-story) I'd like to see or hear how other states are dealing with the threat.
3. I want to see more CDC involvement (i.e. setting up quarantines for those they believe are infected) and possibly see their panic at the realization that the disease is incurable and unstoppable.
4. I want to see the military breakdown from the original "we have orders to...blah, blah, blah" to the vigilante squads they will probably become as the walkers begin to overtake the city and they turn from being protectors to being as dangerous as the walkers they were defending people against.
For me, if I get this stuff in this show, then I'll be a very happy camper.
Zombies are really not very interesting. They want to eat people and they are rotten dead walking things. You can't make a show out of that - just a plot twist. There has to be a strong human story for zombie fiction to be worthwhile. Otherwise it's just "Look, a ZOMBIE!!! Ooh snap!!! Really, Jim it's a freakin' WALKING DEAD THING!!! Shoot it! Oh GOOD SHOTT!!1!1!"
Yeah, sounds like an awesome show.
Or maybe just footage of zombies being zombies for 7 hours: "Groan, grunt, slurp...<<Thinks to itself "I'd love to eat some brains...">>" stagger, stagger, groan".
Have you ever even watched any zombie movies? They are chock full of action with the zombies being the main storyline. At any moment the survivors could be overrun and they typically are. They spend most of their time fighting and trying to survive against the zombies and not with each other. That is what makes zombie movies great and that is what a lot of people want to see in these walking dead shows.
Unfortunately, they refuse to give that to the viewers except on rare occasions. With so much happening in such a short time people expect this new show to move a lot faster. It didn't do that in the first episode and most people expected that to an extent. They just took it way to far with wasting the whole first episode on the family drama.
BTW, A great concept in the Zombie genre is Zombie Crusade by J W Vohs. In the book the fighters amour up with leather and helmets so they can't get bit. They use medieval weapons like maces and such to kill the zombies so they don't make noise.
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How to eliminate zombies:
- Create large concrete border with high walls. Construct this area in a remote area with very little population.
- Inside of large border, use mining equipment to dig very large, very deep hole.
- Use audio equipment to make very loud noises that attract zombies. Have small tactical teams place the audio markers on a route from populated areas to the secured border.
- Make small opening in large border.
- Put speaker along the walls of large hole.
- Create inferno at bottom of hole.
- Filter zombies into burning inferno.
- Profit.
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One of the things people ***** the most about with TWD is the lack of character development. Then this show comes along and tries to give you some character development and most are bitching about that too.