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in losing to just okay teams. We lost. We've played 1 great team and lost as expected.We've played 3 decent teams, got killed in one and kept two games close. We've played 4 ****** teams and won easily twice.<div>
</div><div>I'm not impressed by a team that loses to all teams that are better than average and beating all teams that are worse that average. It proves that we are... average.</div>
</div><div>I'm not impressed by a team that loses to all teams that are better than average and beating all teams that are worse that average. It proves that we are... average.</div>
If you're talking about Georgia, that was the furthest thing from getting killed since it was a 2possessiongame. Don't forget that they scored on that interception in the red zone, and had we punched that in, going into the 4th, that game would have been tied at 17. I'm not saying we're a great team by any stretch of the means, but you reaaaally seem to be reaching here.
...and she never went to a USM game the whole time she was there...and this was during the Favre years.
win rate. At that rate, their projected (average)record would be about 2 - 6 each year if they were in the SEC, and they would win 1 of every 4 games, depending on what teams they played. Of course, they will never be in the SEC, so it's kind of a moot point.
of course they affectionately refer to it as "the chicken clause". They believe that we are given the choice of whether to play them or not in a Liberty Bowl scenario. I've never seen it and don't know if it's true, but they're all convinced we'll chicken out, if given the opportunity. I also found another thread where they are also convinced that their shiny brand new #25 BCS ranking will terrify us into dropping the 2014/2015 games thus causing us to pay them a huge buyout. It really feels like they recruit their "students" from physcho wards.</p>
They think that we'll back out from playing them in Hattiesburg and one went further into saying that he didn't see us backing out because of the bad publicity we'd get especially from the people in our conference. Whatever point they made... made absolutely no sense to me no matter what side they stood on.
Being near the bottom of the SEC every year and being near the top of CUSA every year gives nobody (on either side)any room for comparrison.
We've won 1 more SEC game than they have this year and they don't even play in the conference.
Give them the money that we have for being a part of this conference and they could probably do just about as good.....hard to do worse.
Bama, LSU, and Florida can use our conference as an argument, they win conference titles and go to BCS games consistently. TSUN, Vandy, Kentucky, and us cannot. We are basically saying we are terrible, but at least we're terrible in a great conference. USM can't help what conference their in, we're lucky to be where we are.</p>
We've won 1 more SEC game than they have this year and they don't even play in the conference.
Give them the money that we have for being a part of this conference and they could probably do just about as good.....hard to do worse.
Bama, LSU, and Florida can use our conference as an argument, they win conference titles and go to BCS games consistently. TSUN, Vandy, Kentucky, and us cannot. We are basically saying we are terrible, but at least we're terrible in a great conference. USM can't help what conference their in, we're lucky to be where we are.</p>
2 possessions is 2 possessions no matter how you look at it. I even told you that they got one of their touchdowns off of an interception, and, had we punched it in, the game would have been tied at 17 later down the road. Saying that because the offense underwhelmed is why a 14 loss should be considered a blowout is a ridiculous statement.<div>
</div><div>By no means am I comparing us to the super bowl champion Ravens but even that team played 5 consecutive games without even scoring an offensive touchdown and still won 2 of those games.The one thing I can say about that game is that our defense kept us in it which is why I refuse to say it was a blowout. You using our offensive ineptitude to justify calling a 2 possession defeat a blowout is absurd.</div>
</div><div>By no means am I comparing us to the super bowl champion Ravens but even that team played 5 consecutive games without even scoring an offensive touchdown and still won 2 of those games.The one thing I can say about that game is that our defense kept us in it which is why I refuse to say it was a blowout. You using our offensive ineptitude to justify calling a 2 possession defeat a blowout is absurd.</div>
we are not good, because we have not beat a good team and have beaten bad teams.
but usm is a good team, because they haven't played a team worth a damn, but have lost to one bad team on the road and beaten the rest of the bad teams.
...ok
is southern a good team probably but they aren't top 25 good.
my reason for that ...they haven't even played a top 25 team 8 games into the year.
*in theory
are you really good if you beat 7 teams ranked 117, 116, 115, 114, 113, 112, 111, ...in my opinion you really can't say you are better than 110th
but usm is a good team, because they haven't played a team worth a damn, but have lost to one bad team on the road and beaten the rest of the bad teams.
...ok
is southern a good team probably but they aren't top 25 good.
my reason for that ...they haven't even played a top 25 team 8 games into the year.
*in theory
are you really good if you beat 7 teams ranked 117, 116, 115, 114, 113, 112, 111, ...in my opinion you really can't say you are better than 110th
That's fair.
But we didn't beat any of the ranked teams we played, so what's the argument? "They woud beat Southern worse than they beat us!"</p>
But we didn't beat any of the ranked teams we played, so what's the argument? "They woud beat Southern worse than they beat us!"</p>
The highest ranked team we beat was SMU who was ranked around 30th. And we beat them 27-3. The road win at Virginia is looking better and better each week as they will likely be an 8 win ACC team with a win over 12 ranked GT. Nobody expected Navy to suck as bad as they do. This year's schedule was built for one thing...going undefeated and trying to break in the BCS. After seeing Boise do it year after year, why wouldn't we try and take the easy road to $15 mil. We just screwed the pooch against Marshall with turnovers.Foronce said:
And saying that USM would win 1 out of 4 SEC games based on history is not very precise. Your athletic revenue is about 5 times more than ours due to being in the SEC. We do more with less than any team in the nation. Would having your revenue translate into us doing more than you? Not sure, but we wouldn't be any worse....couldn't be.
I haven't heard this BS about you backing out of our matchup. To be honest, I don't care if you do or not. I think it would be good for both universities and the state though.
Georgia, Carolina, and LSU have some pretty good teams on a national level
This year we're still the 7th best in the conference or at worst very close to it. I think we beat Florida, Vanderbilt, and UT head to head (the 3 of them have 3 SEC wins combined and 2 of them are against each other), and we've already beaten UK handily, with a pretty good chance of beating Ole Miss.
This year we're still the 7th best in the conference or at worst very close to it. I think we beat Florida, Vanderbilt, and UT head to head (the 3 of them have 3 SEC wins combined and 2 of them are against each other), and we've already beaten UK handily, with a pretty good chance of beating Ole Miss.
For all we know, that 14 - 0 game could have had all 14 points scored in the last few minutes off of fluke plays. That just sounds like more than likely a defensive game. And to say we weren't competitive in that game just sounds like you're only looking at it from the standpoint of the offense. The defense kept us in that game, and whether you want to admit it or not we still could have won it even though both teams played extremely poorly.
The SEC does not have a Independence bowl tie in any more.Head to headresearch the rule and it can happen. If it is the Liberty Bowls turn to select and the only SEC school that is left is from the same state they have to take them. If there is another team that is not from the same state they take that team. Just what they said.
When he was throwing the numbers out there, I'm pretty positive he wasn't saying that in reference to all of the teams you guys played, but more saying that a team being undefeated or 1 loss can't really be considered a good team if the teams that they've played against aren't ranked that highly. The only good teams I can say you guys have beaten are SMU and Virginia just like you stated, and SMU is starting to get exposed since all 3 of their losses weren't competitive.<div>
</div><div>It may not be very precise to say USM would go win 1 of ever 4 SEC games based off of history. He's mainly talking about a point he found out about a week ago when considering the current SEC teams that Southern has played against and more bringing it up to add to discussion if anything. As far as saying that you guys do more with less than anyone in the country... that's absolutely debatable. You guys may have had 11 or so winning seasons, but other than that what do you guys have to show for it? Even if you guys were able to get the resources that we are getting from the SEC doesn't mean that would automatically set your program over us and many other programs. Sure, it would help, but not in the sense that you're thinking.</div>
</div><div>It may not be very precise to say USM would go win 1 of ever 4 SEC games based off of history. He's mainly talking about a point he found out about a week ago when considering the current SEC teams that Southern has played against and more bringing it up to add to discussion if anything. As far as saying that you guys do more with less than anyone in the country... that's absolutely debatable. You guys may have had 11 or so winning seasons, but other than that what do you guys have to show for it? Even if you guys were able to get the resources that we are getting from the SEC doesn't mean that would automatically set your program over us and many other programs. Sure, it would help, but not in the sense that you're thinking.</div>
And that is the highest ranked teamUSM played. Mean whilestate hasplayed fourtop 20 ranked teams. Thesaddest thing about USM is the factthey have the best location of the big three. The biggest population and everything that is needed tobe a big time program butthey have to almost give tickets away to fill the stadium. How many sell outs has MSU had in a roll? Yes being in the SEC has helped in some of thembut a third of those sell out were against Con-USA and other non BCS conferences schools.
You thought that adding La tech, SE La, Virginia, and Navy to your gauntlet of CUSA foes was going to do the trick to get you an at large BCS bid? Well, I guess anything's possible but my guess would be that the directors of the Sugar, Orange, and Fiesta bowls would rather sell more than 10 tickets.
For the record, I think an MSU/USM match-up would be fairly tight this year but the chest beating that's going on with that schedule is laughable.
..if USM is 98-37 vs SEC teams then, historically speaking, USM is one badass program.
Let me just add all the talk will end 8/30/14.
That's when USM comes to Starkville to actually play a football game instead of talk about a football game.
Let me just add all the talk will end 8/30/14.
That's when USM comes to Starkville to actually play a football game instead of talk about a football game.
But that game was not close at all. It was 21-3 very early in the second quarter and then UGA just plain coasted. I attended the game and we never had a chance. UGA missed a FG, muffed another, and only allowed one touchdown on a very long interception return.
That type of schedule has worked for Boise and is working for Houston so far. Houston played UCLA, North Texas, LaTech, and Georgia state and they are currently number 13 in the BCS...one spot away from getting the bid. Only problem for them is that Boise will get the auto. But it put them in position.Seinfeld said:
There's really not that much chest beating going on...at least from most USM fans. BGN might be another story. They are a bunch of sunshine pumpers like Genes Page. I'm not even sure we belong in the top 25, like I stated earlier. There are teams in the top 25 that I think we would beat but also a few outside the top 25 that we would lose to.
If you can't give credit for the defense putting our only touchdown on the board and even admit that the interception that they eventually scored off of was apivotalpoint in the game then don't even talk about Georgia having missed field goals to further your point. You can't have both. You're giving Georgia credit for their miscues and discrediting us with things that we did do. It's making you look like you have an agenda.
I agree with you in saying we're average. I just don't agree with your outlook. I don't see how you can say you're being objective when you don't give credit when credit is due.