Finally hope for correcting the NIL mess?

NickRU714

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Wow. Talk about disingenuous.
There are zero ADs worried about taking money that could be donated for labs and new dorms.

"Now, colleges are facing financial consequences. Schools can’t pay the athletes directly. Instead they must turn to NIL collectives, so-called booster organizations that rely on the same donor base funding other needs such as labs and new dorms."

Unless this Roundtable deals with the extreme inequity of conference money and payouts then nothing will change or be accomplished.
Nobody wants a level playing field.
Crocodile tears over "NIL" is frankly annoying.
 

RUGuitarMan1

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The issue of player compensation should have been addressed decades ago in a reasonable and rational way. Incremental change and reform should have been implemented along the way. Of course greed on the part of the NCAA, conferences, administrators and coaches prevailed as always. When the inevitable upheaval occurred it was too late. You reap what you sow.
 

Retired711

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I know this thread will get locked because many of you will piss and moan about who's involved, but here goes. He won't kick the can down the road as he sees how it's ruined college sports and how players won't stay at one school for their entire college careers. https://nypost.com/2026/03/06/busin...fix-the-massive-money-mess-in-college-sports/
The current situation can't be solved with a stroke of the pen by the President. Either Congress has to enact some kind of anti-trust exemption for college athletics, or college athletes have to be allowed to collectively bargain with the schools. The story acknowledges that Congressional legislation is probably needed. There are legislative proposals, but enactment is not around the corner; a bill was brought to the House floor in December, but pulled because it didn't have the votes to pass. Even if the House passes a bill, the Senate would have to pass it as well, and that will require Democratic as well as Republican votes.

In a nutshell, I do not expect that a Presidential commission of the kind mentioned in the article will have much effect.
 
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MADHAT1

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If they get something done, I won't complain .
If not , I'll not be surprised and say when politicians ( on both sides of the fence) get involved, messes tend to stay that way.
But will think, even if they failed they had a better chance of success than if the NCAA picked the fixers
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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Wow. Talk about disingenuous.
There are zero ADs worried about taking money that could be donated for labs and new dorms.

"Now, colleges are facing financial consequences. Schools can’t pay the athletes directly. Instead they must turn to NIL collectives, so-called booster organizations that rely on the same donor base funding other needs such as labs and new dorms."

Unless this Roundtable deals with the extreme inequity of conference money and payouts then nothing will change or be accomplished.
Nobody wants a level playing field.
Crocodile tears over "NIL" is frankly annoying.
As the Head Coach in the movie The Program pointed out,"100,000 people don't show up to the stadium on Saturday to watch a kid do a damn chemistry experiment."

This roundtable is all about getting back the autocracy that the NCAA lost in the courts, not dealing rationally and fairly with the current environment. The last thing college athletics needs is reform by enshittification.
 
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RUbot

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All heavy hitters there. All conference commissioners, ND president, Lawmakers TV networks.
I'm sure no one expected a resolution today, but its a kickoff of the conversation.

Tim Pernetti speaking now !!
 
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T2Kplus20

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50+ people invited to an hour long meeting seems like more show than substance. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong but not sure we need presidential intervention on this type of issue
Something needs to kick off the process. College sports (especially football and basketball) are legit pro sports now. That means multi-year player contracts, spending caps for programs, and perhaps even a high school draft.

That's the only way to clean up this mess.
 

Retired711

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An EO granting an anti-trust exemption would be *very* unlikely to be upheld in the courts.
I hope I'm not being too political by expanding on that. The President heads the Executive branch, and the Executive branch can make law only within the bounds that Congress has authorized. For instance, the Executive branch can make emissions standards for motor vehicles because Congress has said the Executive branch can do it and has laid down criteria for the Executive branch to follow in making those standards. But there is no plausible argument, so far as I can see, that Congress has authorized the President to regulate college athletics or to exempt college athletics from the laws that currently apply to it.
 

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Again -- it can happen only with an act of Congress or through collective bargaining. The President can't impose it.
Practically, maybe. But this isn't entirely true. The Supreme Court decision explicitly said the individual conferences could ban it. The SEC and Big 10 could ban it tomorrow and it might not even be an anti-trust violation if they colluded.
 
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NickRU714

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Practically, maybe. But this isn't entirely true. The Supreme Court decision explicitly said the individual conferences could ban it. The SEC and Big 10 could ban it tomorrow and it might not even be an anti-trust violation if they colluded.

You keep repeating this.
And yet they haven't yet nor shown any inclination that they will.

B1G/SEC could also share their media money with everyone to actually create a level playing field.
Lots of things "could" happen
 

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Only the government can save us now...players found out how much money teams are willing to pay them...let's see what they come up with as the solution. Considering everything happening on a global scale, some of the worlds leading minds have carved out some time in their day to address a pressing economic issue like this one.
 
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Interesting quote from Nick Saban.

“Players need to get compensated, no doubt. But it has to be done in a way where, you know, in some kind of way, have competitive balance, you know, and that every school has the same thing. One school can’t spend $30 million for players while another schools spending $3 million," said Saban. “All I’m saying? The people out there need to know this model is unsustainable. It’s not good for players."

Quite the statement from someone who built a championship empire based on the opposite philosophy.
 

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Only the government can save us now...players found out how much money teams are willing to pay them...let's see what they come up with as the solution. Considering everything happening on a global scale, some of the worlds leading minds have carved out some time in their day to address a pressing economic issue like this one.
It's not an illegal gathering, it's just undocumented. ;)
 

Retired711

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Practically, maybe. But this isn't entirely true. The Supreme Court decision explicitly said the individual conferences could ban it. The SEC and Big 10 could ban it tomorrow and it might not even be an anti-trust violation if they colluded.
No conference will do so on its own because its members would then be at a disadvantage compared to every other. So it is impossible as a practical matter. It would almost certainly be an anti-trust violation for the Big Ten and SEC to do it because of their joint market power. Beside, the P4 conferences were all parties to the House settlement and they cannot do anything to violate that settlement without re-opening that litigation, which they do not want to do because of the possibility of triple damages. It's just not going to happen.
 

Retired711

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Interesting quote from Nick Saban.

“Players need to get compensated, no doubt. But it has to be done in a way where, you know, in some kind of way, have competitive balance, you know, and that every school has the same thing. One school can’t spend $30 million for players while another schools spending $3 million," said Saban. “All I’m saying? The people out there need to know this model is unsustainable. It’s not good for players."

Quite the statement from someone who built a championship empire based on the opposite philosophy.
My translation of this is: "schools have to be stopped from using NIL as a way to evade the cap." That is what the College Sports Commission is supposed to be doing. It has hired a high-powered enforcement staff. We'll see if it succeeds.
 
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A discussion about NIL in which the leader (Trump) says, "I thought the system of scholarships was great." and "The whole educational system is going to go out of business because of this," is unlikely going to have a very productive outcome.
 

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Interesting quote from Nick Saban.

“Players need to get compensated, no doubt. But it has to be done in a way where, you know, in some kind of way, have competitive balance, you know, and that every school has the same thing. One school can’t spend $30 million for players while another schools spending $3 million," said Saban. “All I’m saying? The people out there need to know this model is unsustainable. It’s not good for players."

Quite the statement from someone who built a championship empire based on the opposite philosophy.
Schools will still spend, even if there is a cap. They will just use the old system. Let’s say there is a cap of $10M. Alabama wants to spend $30M. They will spend the $10M the new legal way, and funnel the additional $20M the old way. As long as cheaters are in charge, cheating will take place.
 
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Again -- it can happen only with an act of Congress or through collective bargaining. The President can't impose it.
If his intent was to do an EO it would have happened already. I think he gets that and he is just trying to get this thing started and let it run its course. Let's see where it goes but if members of congress are going to vote to protect their athletic factories (and the flow of cash going to them to effect their votes) nothing will come of this.