Finebaum ranks SEC coaches...

[TR.sixpack]

This is from Tuesday:

10. Dan Mullen (Mississippi State): With two national championship rings and the moniker of being Tim Tebow's offensive coordinator, Mullen should make a favorable impression on the recruiting trail. He has one of the toughest jobs in the SEC but he also has perhaps the most patient and understanding fan base - which can matter a lot.

I think that's a very fair evaluation of the current situation.

BTW, Nutt ranks 4th and Chizik and Kiffen rank 11th and 12th respectively.

 

[RebelBruiser]

I may be the only one, but I keep seeing Kiffin as a rich-man's Orgeron.

He's not as crazy, but I am not impressed with his resume, and I feel like his assistant coach choices mirror the way Orgeron picked assistants, except that he's got more money to do it. It seems like almost everyone he's bringing in is known more for their recruiting ability than anything. Orgeron built his staff based on recruiting ability as well rather than coaching ability, and I think that was a mistake. You need a good blend of both on your staff. And if the rumors about Kiffin's meeting with the UT linemen are true, then his approach to treatment of his players may not be all that much different than Orgeron either.

Not saying he'll go 3-21 in SEC play. After all, I did call him a rich-man's Orgeron, but I see enough similarities so far that I have a feeling the marriage won't last.

 

[HireCohen]

Kiffin will be a good coach for Tennessee..He was competitive with the Raiders for crying out loud. Monte Kiffin is as good as it gets, no questioning this. Anyone that knows anything about football will tell you he is one of the best d-coordinators ever. Recruiting against the likes of Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and LSU may be a challenge.

 

[Keyser Soze.sixpack]

that daddy will save him from being a disaster. Any team that has Monte Kiffin coaching the defensive side of the ball has to feel pretty good about keeping it close. I know that Monte's bucs had a some bad games this year, but if you look at what he has produced consistently as a DC then you have to feel good about having him for your DC if you are TN.

 

[AROB44]

the most patient and understanding fan base

Ain't that the truth !!!!!!

 

[java the mutt]

Not a pro style attack

 

[hdghdawg]

Kiffin was a successful offensive coordinator and coached in the NFL. Orgeron was nothing but a position coach. There are no similarities, except that they both spent time at USC.

The Orgeron and Croom hires were two of the stupidest hires ever. I don't see any other being even remotely that bad for any other SEC team. At least Ole Miss had the good sense to fire theirs after it became apparent he was an idiot. Funny thing is, he probably would have won 6-7 games this season too, like Croom did last year, and you would have been stuck with him for one more year.

But that's how thin the line is. O would have kept recruiting, no telling how he would have turned out. If Croom hadn't suffered through the gun wielding incident and kept Woody, no telling how that would have turned out. Both of them just made some bone headed decisions that cost them their jobs ultimately.

 

[msudawg12]

Petrino at 5?

 

[Keyser Soze.sixpack]

but I have to like his chances. You don't become respected as one of the great DC's of all time by not adapting your game plan to the offense you are playing. If you can shut down NFL offenses then you can find a way to shut down spread offenses.</p>

 

[jmbeck]

When your dumbass Jerry Springer fanbase consists of Alabama fans, it's the right thing to do putting Alabama up top and Tennessee and Auburn on the bottom. The fact there are people in this world that consider him a credible sports commentator blows my mind. He has a large following in Alabama, and he's made a lot of money doing it, but he does it by saying the things that makes people want to listen, not for having any meaningful commentary on sports.

Hell, 1/3 of all his broadcasts become arguments over social issues.

 

[ArrowDawg]

......himself as a head coach yet. As for the fan base being patient though, I've often wondered if we're too patient. I think we're stsarting to see a change there with Byrne in charge now.

 

[Todd4State]

I wonder what kind of a recruiter than Monte Kiffin is? I had to get my shot in, so sorry for the dead horse.

Kiffen is going to be successful at UT. He has been an OC, he was turining the Raiders around and the only reason that he got fired was because Al Davis is senile. Both of which make him about 500% greater than Orgeron.

And why do you think that him hiring a bunch of guys known for recruiting is a bad thing, especially since he has been in the NFL for a couple of years and has a DC that has been in the NFL for eons? I wish Croom had done that, it sure would have helped him out a lot if he had the Bagman onhis staff from the start. Plus, with the players that O has brought in to USC, and more impressively Ole Miss that made your Cotton Bowl team, I'd say that's a pretty smart hire. O knows the region including Mississippi, Louisiana, Memphis, and Alabama. Not to mention that Kiffen and O probably still have some ties to California.

 

[Todd4State]

......himself as a head coach yet. As for the fan base being patient though, I've often wondered if we're too patient. I think we're stsarting to
see a change there with Byrne in charge now.

LT forced us to be patient, and I think most of us just felt helpless and tried to make the best of it. Some of us ***** in sixpack, and some State fans say, well at least he's a good Christian. You just have to deal with it the best you can.

Of course you have some of our fans who have been conditioned to believe that we can't win in football without cheating our asses off. It's like no one has ever thought, gee if we maybe hire a good coach who knows what he's doing, we can win.

 

[RebelBruiser]

You're right about hiring his dad. However, my point is that just about every other hire he's made has been a coach known more for his recruiting than developing players. Like I said, I think you need that on your staff. I just think he's getting too much of it and not enough experienced assistants, besides his dad of course.

And that's why I called it a rich-man's Orgeron. He's obviously going to have more success than Orgeron, and he's obviously a better coach. I just think he's going about things in a similar fashion to the way Orgeron tried to do things at Ole Miss. We'll find out if it can work long term. And maybe it's what is needed at UT, since obviously recruiting probably needs to be the main concern at UT with their lack of homegrown talent.

Also, I can just about guarantee that UT's staff is going to be making more than any other staff in the country. Kiffin isn't going to be making a ton, but his staff, combined will likely make more than double what he makes.

 

[jackstefano]

Check their record before he was fired, and after. He was subpar.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...Finebaum is "ranking" 3 coaches who have not even coached a game yet.

And he puts them all at the bottom of his rankings (I don't know why, since clearly having coached a game yet is not part of his criteria).

And Finebaum is taken serious for doing this?

That being the case, I hereby declare John Cohen the #1 SEC baseball coach for the upcoming baseball season.

And if you try to challenge me with "What has Cohen done yet to merit the #1 ranking?" I'm going to invoke the Finebaum Rule thereby rendering your criticism a moot point.