Fire Franklin. This is coaching malpractice!/Combined complaints post UCLA

[Bwifan]

Over the last decade:

No university in the country has spent more on "football facilities"
No university in the country - obviously - has spent more on their football stadium
No university in the country - obviously - has spent more on a football coaching staff or administration

And, to borrow a phrase - I get it , that (nearly) no one cares, and very few even know, about things like this, (and only care about "how many games did we win?") but:
The academic performance of the football program dropped to dragging bottom in the Big Ten in the NCAA metrics (I know - or at least IMHO - the NCAA metrics are laughable. But those are the standards set by the NCAA)
We have two (now former) players awaiting trial for rape of co-eds (Yes, those have yet to be fully adjudicated, and everyone knows that folks are entitled to proper due process)
PSU just had to pay a $4.5 million civil judgement for actions catalyzed by allegations of the football coach interfering with medical decisions
Legal kerfluffles regarding "sexual harassment" based hazing in the football program

It is what it is.
And, FWIW, it will all be A-OK (with most people) if PSU can win their next 3 games.

Of course this will be the year PSU goes into OSU and wins... Too little too late...

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

Have to hope a school like Arkansas or Florida finds him more attractive than others. We'll see. What's frustrating is the years of people pointing this stuff out (play-calling, soft players, lack of discipline, lack of QB development, game/time management, loyalty to certain players, etc.) only to be shouted down by the usual suspects, who I guess don't post anymore, that we are Franklin haters. I think many were hoping he was the guy but it was obvious years ago he wasn't. Team isn't fun to watch for the most part either unless you are a masochist.

It’s not College Football so I really don’t care anymore. Just thankful that I got the 80’s with JVP.

 

[Nittany1982]

It’s sad and frustrating what has become of the program on the field. Franklin means well and is a good representative of the university. For whatever reason (I’m not inside the program to see what goes on), he is not able to take the program to the next level. It is sad and frustrating. All of that said, the memes are just stupid and undeserved. They aren’t funny. The whole thing is sad and frustrating.

I am of the opinion that firing Franklin is in everyone’s best interests. If it happens, I will wish him well in whatever he chooses to do. He didn’t take the program where any of us or he wanted, but he has done well for the program and university overall. He’s smart, a good man, and a family man. It isn’t working at PSU, but I hope he does well should he move on from PSU.

Let’s please stop with the Franklin memes (clown, McDonald’s, etc.). Jokes are one thing. Insults that are stupid and juvenile are another. Just stop.

I have to agree with this post. Franklin was the 'hot item' when he came here. He was the guy winning at Vandy, where no one has one in a LONG time. Our recruiting improved greatly, and we have seen some amazing talent come through the pipeline, Barkley, Parsons, Godwin, Carter, Warren, etc.

I have never been one to be on the fire Franklin bandwagon (some jumped on since day 1) I thought he needed some time to get his players on the field; get his offensive and defensive philosophies in place with the coaches he chose. At this point he has had all that time and more.

We have seen that he can't find a way to beat elite talent even though he has elite players on the field. Bum Phillips once said of Tom Landry, "He can take his players and beat yours, and he can take yours and beat his." JF is not that guy.

He is a good recruiter, a good administrator, and by all accounts a good family man. As others have noted, his players seem to like him as well.

Bob said it best, it's not working for him here, maybe he will do better at the next stop. I think he needs to move on to the next challenge...

 

[Nittering Nabob]

Given the rapidity of PSU's collapse (7 days between Oregon and UCLA) it wouldn't surprise me if some conversations will be happening this week between (a) Franklin and Kraft and (b) Kraft and Jimmy Sexton regarding a negotiated buy-out. Personnel changes like this take some time and planning.

 

[BostonNit]

KotelnickI and Franklin have been holding our offense back intentionally. Tosu’s defense won’t be ready for what our coaches will cook up.

First play, Drew split out wide. Direct snap to Nick for a 75 yard tuddie. Or 3 yard loss. Which do you think is more likely?

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

Have to hope a school like Arkansas or Florida finds him more attractive than others. We'll see. What's frustrating is the years of people pointing this stuff out (play-calling, soft players, lack of discipline, lack of QB development, game/time management, loyalty to certain players, etc.) only to be shouted down by the usual suspects, who I guess don't post anymore, that we are Franklin haters. I think many were hoping he was the guy but it was obvious years ago he wasn't. Team isn't fun to watch for the most part either unless you are a masochist.

Alot of the negativity on the board would subside drastically if we had a Midnighter poll!

 

[Midnighter]

Alot of the negativity on the board would subside drastically if we had a Midnighter poll!

Weirdly curious about the response/tone in the Lion's Den where posters are more pragmatic/measured (usually).

 

[Catch1lion]

Snip from the Athletic suggesting a potentially palatable solution.
Penn State could take drastic action amid James Franklin's buyout hitch

 

[Bvillebaron]

Triple F

Fire Fraud Franklin!!!!

Waited until today to add my 2 cents. I’m 73 and a fan since I was 8 years old. Attended my first game when Engle was coach. Shared season tickets with another couple from 1978 until 3 years ago when my wife had serious health issues. Worst loss I could remember before the UCLA debacle was sitting in the sun in 95 degree heat on a season opener and losing 14-3 to Cincinnati before Cincinnati became a half decent team.
Saturday’s loss was worse and while I realize I am in a distinct minority folks but I got news for you Franklin haters, but this was squarely on the players. All I heard this offseason was all these players came back to make a Michigan and OSU run to win a Natty. What happens. Instead of coming out with determination and destroying an inferior team to get some mojo back after the tough Oregon loss, too many players on this team were still crying in their beer and thought all they had to do was roll their helmets on the field and UCLA would fold. To the contrary, this upper classmen laden team which professed that they came back for a Natty run was the team that folded like a cheap suit.
I used to read a column about who is stealing money in the NBA. There were numerous Penn State players who were stealing their NIL money last Saturday, particularly on defense of which “All World” DDS was the worst. He did two things during the first half: took an outside rush trying to make a big play which led to UCLA runners getting huge yardage in the gap he created and doing nothing but a half-assed bull rush on passing plays which involved very little pushing and a whole lot of engaging with the lineman and simply standing there. Got news for you DDS NFL scouts will notice and you just cost yourself lots of money on draft day.
What I would like to see is Franklin do what Paterno did years ago when another highly heralded team loaded with upper classmen like this year’s team under performed: benched them and put in younger players who wanted to play instead of reading their press clippings and resting on their reputations. That way he can leave town if all his haters get their way and he gets fired at the end of the year with his head held high.
How many times do you folks think Franklin whose motto from when he stepped on campus was to not overlook and opponent and focus on each week’s opponent told the players last week to not take UCLA lightly? As the old saying goes you can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink. Instead of rebounding from a loss like OSU did last year and going on to win the Natty, too many players on this team proved IMHO that they are not championship players.

 

[Nittering Nabob]

Snip from the Athletic suggesting a potentially palatable solution.
Penn State could take drastic action amid James Franklin's buyout hitch

I've been researching negotiated buyouts this morning. It's common for a coach and university to settle anywhere between 50% and 75% of remaining compensation to mutually part ways.

Recent examples include Sam Pittman (62.5%) and Desean Foster (70.0%)

Franklin's current buy-out is $56 million. At 62.5%, PSU would still need to cough up $35 million. That would require a double secret BOT meeting.

 

[Ram20]

Waited until today to add my 2 cents. I’m 73 and a fan since I was 8 years old. Attended my first game when Engle was coach. Shared season tickets with another couple from 1978 until 3 years ago when my wife had serious health issues. Worst loss I could remember before the UCLA debacle was sitting in the sun in 95 degree heat on a season opener and losing 14-3 to Cincinnati before Cincinnati became a half decent team.
Saturday’s loss was worse and while I realize I am in a distinct minority folks but I got news for you Franklin haters, but this was squarely on the players. All I heard this offseason was all these players came back to make a Michigan and OSU run to win a Natty. What happens. Instead of coming out with determination and destroying an inferior team to get some mojo back after the tough Oregon loss, too many players on this team were still crying in their beer and thought all they had to do was roll their helmets on the field and UCLA would fold. To the contrary, this upper classmen laden team which professed that they came back for a Natty run was the team that folded like a cheap suit.
I used to read a column about who is stealing money in the NBA. There were numerous Penn State players who were stealing their NIL money last Saturday, particularly on defense of which “All World” DDS was the worst. He did two things during the first half: took an outside rush trying to make a big play which led to UCLA runners getting huge yardage in the gap he created and doing nothing but a half-assed bull rush on passing plays which involved very little pushing and a whole lot of engaging with the lineman and simply standing there. Got news for you DDS NFL scouts will notice and you just cost yourself lots of money on draft day.
What I would like to see is Franklin do what Paterno did years ago when another highly heralded team loaded with upper classmen like this year’s team under performed: benched them and put in younger players who wanted to play instead of reading their press clippings and resting on their reputations. That way he can leave town if all his haters get their way and he gets fired at the end of the year with his head held high.
How many times do you folks think Franklin whose motto from when he stepped on campus was to not overlook and opponent and focus on each week’s opponent told the players last week to not take UCLA lightly? As the old saying goes you can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink. Instead of rebounding from a loss like OSU did last year and going on to win the Natty, too many players on this team proved IMHO that they are not championship players.

Who recruited and continues to play these players that aren't championship material?

 

[Wilbury]

Over the last decade:

No university in the country has spent more on "football facilities"
No university in the country - obviously - has spent more on their football stadium
No university in the country - obviously - has spent more on a football coaching staff or administration

And, to borrow a phrase - I get it , that (nearly) no one cares, and very few even know, about things like this, (and only care about "how many games did we win?") but:
The academic performance of the football program dropped to dragging bottom in the Big Ten in the NCAA metrics (I know - or at least IMHO - the NCAA metrics are laughable. But those are the standards set by the NCAA)
We have two (now former) players awaiting trial for rape of co-eds (Yes, those have yet to be fully adjudicated, and everyone knows that folks are entitled to proper due process)
PSU just had to pay a $4.5 million civil judgement for actions catalyzed by allegations of the football coach interfering with medical decisions
Legal kerfluffles regarding "sexual harassment" based hazing in the football program

It is what it is.
And, FWIW, it will all be A-OK (with most people) if PSU can win their next 3 games.

do you have a source for those numbers? The only things I can find don't show it that way. Penn State's in the top 10 but that's about it.

 

[PSUFTG]

Who recruited and continues to play these players that aren't championship material?

And Mr "1-0" full 100% focus on the next game on the schedule:

Spends his bye weeks (and even parts of some regular-length game weeks) helicoptering into high schools to charm the snake of the day (apparently oblivious to his horrific record after bye weeks - during which he practiced the same stuff).
And
Spends time lamenting what his "legacy" will be, and promoting his decade-long accomplishments.

He's the boss, and can certainly do as he pleases. But I doubt that any reasonable person takes him and the "1-0" "LTFI" stuff seriously.
,

 

[Grant Green]

Given the rapidity of PSU's collapse (7 days between Oregon and UCLA) it wouldn't surprise me if some conversations will be happening this week between (a) Franklin and Kraft and (b) Kraft and Jimmy Sexton regarding a negotiated buy-out. Personnel changes like this take some time and planning.

I think there is zero chance those conversations are happening.
As bad as Saturday was, I wouldn't declare anything a collapse at this point. If things continue to go south, those conversations could possibly occur after the season.

 

[BobPSU92]

Snip from the Athletic suggesting a potentially palatable solution.
Penn State could take drastic action amid James Franklin's buyout hitch

Granted I’m dumb, but what does the following mean from the above article?

“Franklin would be sought after for other high-level jobs that are bound to open in what will be an eventful coaching carousel. He’s a good coach, and the cost for him to leave is just $2 million. The term “mutually part ways” is usually a lie. It wouldn’t have to be in this case.”

$2 million?

 

[MacNit]

Waited until today to add my 2 cents. I’m 73 and a fan since I was 8 years old. Attended my first game when Engle was coach. Shared season tickets with another couple from 1978 until 3 years ago when my wife had serious health issues. Worst loss I could remember before the UCLA debacle was sitting in the sun in 95 degree heat on a season opener and losing 14-3 to Cincinnati before Cincinnati became a half decent team.
Saturday’s loss was worse and while I realize I am in a distinct minority folks but I got news for you Franklin haters, but this was squarely on the players. All I heard this offseason was all these players came back to make a Michigan and OSU run to win a Natty. What happens. Instead of coming out with determination and destroying an inferior team to get some mojo back after the tough Oregon loss, too many players on this team were still crying in their beer and thought all they had to do was roll their helmets on the field and UCLA would fold. To the contrary, this upper classmen laden team which professed that they came back for a Natty run was the team that folded like a cheap suit.
I used to read a column about who is stealing money in the NBA. There were numerous Penn State players who were stealing their NIL money last Saturday, particularly on defense of which “All World” DDS was the worst. He did two things during the first half: took an outside rush trying to make a big play which led to UCLA runners getting huge yardage in the gap he created and doing nothing but a half-assed bull rush on passing plays which involved very little pushing and a whole lot of engaging with the lineman and simply standing there. Got news for you DDS NFL scouts will notice and you just cost yourself lots of money on draft day.
What I would like to see is Franklin do what Paterno did years ago when another highly heralded team loaded with upper classmen like this year’s team under performed: benched them and put in younger players who wanted to play instead of reading their press clippings and resting on their reputations. That way he can leave town if all his haters get their way and he gets fired at the end of the year with his head held high.
How many times do you folks think Franklin whose motto from when he stepped on campus was to not overlook and opponent and focus on each week’s opponent told the players last week to not take UCLA lightly? As the old saying goes you can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink. Instead of rebounding from a loss like OSU did last year and going on to win the Natty, too many players on this team proved IMHO that they are not championship players.

All true. But many were championship high school players. What changed? Franklin.

He needs to go. If not soon, going to a be a sad homecoming.

 

[MacNit]

I think there is zero chance those conversations are happening.
As bad as Saturday was, I wouldn't declare anything a collapse at this point. If things continue to go south, those conversations could possibly occur after the season.

Let’s hope you are wrong. This team and Franklin are going to be booed off the field. In Homecoming - think about that..

 

[BobPSU92]

I think there is zero chance those conversations are happening.
As bad as Saturday was, I wouldn't declare anything a collapse at this point. If things continue to go south, those conversations could possibly occur after the season.

I really wonder what Kraft sees. Does he attend practices? Is he able to judge how much of this is on the coaches versus the players? The buck should stop with Franklin, ultimately, but what happens in practices versus the games? I’d love to know what Kraft sees.

 

[Calabrin]

Sometimes, the boss that the employees like is the one upper management wants to get rid of at the first opportunity.

That said, there's no way that "money isn't a factor."

Money is obviously a major factor.

But what I'm saying is: if you take that out of the equation, is there any reasonable defense of not firing Franklin?

 

[slwlion01]

Out coached, out played. AGAIN

This football team has team has been woefully Unprepared all season. The questions is HOW, WHY?

Simple. Coaching !

 

[Nittering Nabob]

I really wonder what Kraft sees. Does he attend practices? Is he able to judge how much of this is on the coaches versus the players? The buck should stop with Franklin, ultimately, but what happens in practices versus the games? I’d love to know what Kraft sees.

He probably sees the same things we see and probably has PSU Lettermen telling him of the many problems they observe. His master out is "I wasn't the one who extended James' contract. PSU doesn't have $40-$50 million currently so my hands are effectively tied".

 

[BiochemPSU]

Waited until today to add my 2 cents. I’m 73 and a fan since I was 8 years old. Attended my first game when Engle was coach. Shared season tickets with another couple from 1978 until 3 years ago when my wife had serious health issues. Worst loss I could remember before the UCLA debacle was sitting in the sun in 95 degree heat on a season opener and losing 14-3 to Cincinnati before Cincinnati became a half decent team.
Saturday’s loss was worse and while I realize I am in a distinct minority folks but I got news for you Franklin haters, but this was squarely on the players. All I heard this offseason was all these players came back to make a Michigan and OSU run to win a Natty. What happens. Instead of coming out with determination and destroying an inferior team to get some mojo back after the tough Oregon loss, too many players on this team were still crying in their beer and thought all they had to do was roll their helmets on the field and UCLA would fold. To the contrary, this upper classmen laden team which professed that they came back for a Natty run was the team that folded like a cheap suit.
I used to read a column about who is stealing money in the NBA. There were numerous Penn State players who were stealing their NIL money last Saturday, particularly on defense of which “All World” DDS was the worst. He did two things during the first half: took an outside rush trying to make a big play which led to UCLA runners getting huge yardage in the gap he created and doing nothing but a half-assed bull rush on passing plays which involved very little pushing and a whole lot of engaging with the lineman and simply standing there. Got news for you DDS NFL scouts will notice and you just cost yourself lots of money on draft day.
What I would like to see is Franklin do what Paterno did years ago when another highly heralded team loaded with upper classmen like this year’s team under performed: benched them and put in younger players who wanted to play instead of reading their press clippings and resting on their reputations. That way he can leave town if all his haters get their way and he gets fired at the end of the year with his head held high.
How many times do you folks think Franklin whose motto from when he stepped on campus was to not overlook and opponent and focus on each week’s opponent told the players last week to not take UCLA lightly? As the old saying goes you can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink. Instead of rebounding from a loss like OSU did last year and going on to win the Natty, too many players on this team proved IMHO that they are not championship players.

It's a fair take. But this is a text book example of how hard it is for folks at PSU to blame anyone but the coach; it's Paterno veneration gone wrong. You are taking the approach of "the players did this to themselves" because we know that the coach couldn't possibly teach them wrong or motivate them to play that way. We don't, in fact, know any of that that to be true. It also takes the position that the coach incurs no consequences for what the players do, they alone reap what they sow. That's wrong, the head coach is not above anything.

 

[PSUFTG]

I’d love to know what Kraft sees.

Kraft isn't listed here - because PSU doesn't supply public information to the data compliers:
Top 10 highest-paid athletic directors in NCAA ft. Danny White

But if he were included, we know he is Top 5 highest paid ADs in the country - just with his "base":
Penn State extends AD Pat Kraft's contract through 2031-32 - ESPN

And when he collects his "bonus" (which everyone knows is a fait accompli), he will end up the HIGHEST paid AD in the country.

What do you think he sees?

 

[Bid D from Philly]

Waited until today to add my 2 cents. I’m 73 and a fan since I was 8 years old. Attended my first game when Engle was coach. Shared season tickets with another couple from 1978 until 3 years ago when my wife had serious health issues. Worst loss I could remember before the UCLA debacle was sitting in the sun in 95 degree heat on a season opener and losing 14-3 to Cincinnati before Cincinnati became a half decent team.
Saturday’s loss was worse and while I realize I am in a distinct minority folks but I got news for you Franklin haters, but this was squarely on the players. All I heard this offseason was all these players came back to make a Michigan and OSU run to win a Natty. What happens. Instead of coming out with determination and destroying an inferior team to get some mojo back after the tough Oregon loss, too many players on this team were still crying in their beer and thought all they had to do was roll their helmets on the field and UCLA would fold. To the contrary, this upper classmen laden team which professed that they came back for a Natty run was the team that folded like a cheap suit.
I used to read a column about who is stealing money in the NBA. There were numerous Penn State players who were stealing their NIL money last Saturday, particularly on defense of which “All World” DDS was the worst. He did two things during the first half: took an outside rush trying to make a big play which led to UCLA runners getting huge yardage in the gap he created and doing nothing but a half-assed bull rush on passing plays which involved very little pushing and a whole lot of engaging with the lineman and simply standing there. Got news for you DDS NFL scouts will notice and you just cost yourself lots of money on draft day.
What I would like to see is Franklin do what Paterno did years ago when another highly heralded team loaded with upper classmen like this year’s team under performed: benched them and put in younger players who wanted to play instead of reading their press clippings and resting on their reputations. That way he can leave town if all his haters get their way and he gets fired at the end of the year with his head held high.
How many times do you folks think Franklin whose motto from when he stepped on campus was to not overlook and opponent and focus on each week’s opponent told the players last week to not take UCLA lightly? As the old saying goes you can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink. Instead of rebounding from a loss like OSU did last year and going on to win the Natty, too many players on this team proved IMHO that they are not championship players.

You’re delusional if you think this isn’t on that fraud Franklin. Franklin loses to team with less talent every year. The only team with more talent on their roster is OSU. He will lose to at least 2 more games this year. Just always unprepared.

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

Me too and I said it. But just expect some real JA’s saying things like ‘I want an apology’. etc. I despise some of our ‘fans’.

Don’t you backslide. Don’t you do it NO NO

 

[KingLando]

Of course this will be the year PSU goes into OSU and wins... Too little too late...

I dont think we do that but if we go 10-2 we host a playoff game. I'm not sure why people struggle with this concept. Even with the awful UCLA loss. Again we won't but we'd ge comfortably 7 or 8.

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

Marshall coached Special Teams at Southern Columbia . Give him a shot. Maybe he can talk their next WR superstar to PSU?

This dump?

Southern Columbia Area School District | Home

The home page for Southern Columbia Area School District.

www.scasd.us

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

To be fair to us, if he won a title this year, the Fire Franklin crowd would be scolded forever.

To be clear, 1 can schit the bed for the rest of his contract and I’ll give zero Fs cause I’m a Super Bowl champion. Big game Jim would receive the same love from me

 

[leinbacker]

Who’s the special teams coach? How we not pick up our own bad tendencies like kick return coverage? Let’s spew hate at the ST coach too

 

[Mile High Lion]

I hesitate to respond because I haven't visited their forums or have personal acquaintences who espouse their opinions, feelings, etc., pertaining to their expectations for the UCLA program in general, for this season in particular, and certainly not, prior to the game. Nor have I reviewed media accounts close to their program. If you have such first hand knowledge, do share and it would facilitate a reasonable consideration of your question.

My suspicion is that the UCLA fan base had no asperations of a Big 10 title and/or a run at a Natl. title. I would suspect there was disatisfaction with the start of the season but more so measured in comparison with a wish for general success. I don't think their team on Saturday was playing under any pressure to sustain a championship season, and to the contrary, played with house money and abandon. I think they were having fun simply being a spoiler and playing the game. In short, the circumstances are far different and the suggested analogy has no merit.

UCLA fans want to win but they are a basketball school first. They won't get wound up if their team doesn't do well because there a zillion other things to do in LA besides worry about the football team losing.

During the game I was texting with a friend who went to school there. When it was over he texts me 'Seven fans rush the field! So UCLA'. That about sums it up.

 

[AvgUser]

Waited until today to add my 2 cents. I’m 73 and a fan since I was 8 years old. Attended my first game when Engle was coach. Shared season tickets with another couple from 1978 until 3 years ago when my wife had serious health issues. Worst loss I could remember before the UCLA debacle was sitting in the sun in 95 degree heat on a season opener and losing 14-3 to Cincinnati before Cincinnati became a half decent team.
Saturday’s loss was worse and while I realize I am in a distinct minority folks but I got news for you Franklin haters, but this was squarely on the players. All I heard this offseason was all these players came back to make a Michigan and OSU run to win a Natty. What happens. Instead of coming out with determination and destroying an inferior team to get some mojo back after the tough Oregon loss, too many players on this team were still crying in their beer and thought all they had to do was roll their helmets on the field and UCLA would fold. To the contrary, this upper classmen laden team which professed that they came back for a Natty run was the team that folded like a cheap suit.
I used to read a column about who is stealing money in the NBA. There were numerous Penn State players who were stealing their NIL money last Saturday, particularly on defense of which “All World” DDS was the worst. He did two things during the first half: took an outside rush trying to make a big play which led to UCLA runners getting huge yardage in the gap he created and doing nothing but a half-assed bull rush on passing plays which involved very little pushing and a whole lot of engaging with the lineman and simply standing there. Got news for you DDS NFL scouts will notice and you just cost yourself lots of money on draft day.
What I would like to see is Franklin do what Paterno did years ago when another highly heralded team loaded with upper classmen like this year’s team under performed: benched them and put in younger players who wanted to play instead of reading their press clippings and resting on their reputations. That way he can leave town if all his haters get their way and he gets fired at the end of the year with his head held high.
How many times do you folks think Franklin whose motto from when he stepped on campus was to not overlook and opponent and focus on each week’s opponent told the players last week to not take UCLA lightly? As the old saying goes you can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink. Instead of rebounding from a loss like OSU did last year and going on to win the Natty, too many players on this team proved IMHO that they are not championship players.

You’re telling me the players voted that Singleton should have more carries than Allen?

That they shouldn’t have assigned a spy to Nico?

that Allar audibles to that stupid 4th and 2 play?

Coaching, and incompetence thereof, matters.

 

[Blair10]

Who’s the special teams coach? How we not pick up our own bad tendencies like kick return coverage? Let’s spew hate at the ST coach too

Totally agree. That was the most embarrassing mistake in the game along with the failure to rush the punter near the end of the game. Two inexcusable coaching blunders.

 

[LB99]

It’s sad and frustrating what has become of the program on the field. Franklin means well and is a good representative of the university. For whatever reason (I’m not inside the program to see what goes on), he is not able to take the program to the next level. It is sad and frustrating. All of that said, the memes are just stupid and undeserved. They aren’t funny. The whole thing is sad and frustrating.

I am of the opinion that firing Franklin is in everyone’s best interests. If it happens, I will wish him well in whatever he chooses to do. He didn’t take the program where any of us or he wanted, but he has done well for the program and university overall. He’s smart, a good man, and a family man. It isn’t working at PSU, but I hope he does well should he move on from PSU.

Let’s please stop with the Franklin memes (clown, McDonald’s, etc.). Jokes are one thing. Insults that are stupid and juvenile are another. Just stop.

I agree. We can be frustrated without being low class.

 

[LB99]

S

I shared stuff from social media because it’s out there whether you like it or not; it’s the national perspective on PSU. Some fans have just had it. A big reason why?



Bob is usually the one stirring things up here with his not so innocuous posts (which I love), but I get some fans want to ‘embrace the suck’ a bit (Army term for my fellow vets) which is to deploy a defensive mechanism in the face of maximum suckitude that allows one to cope by inviting more and more of it. It works for 16 hour force protection duty shifts in freezing rain - can’t hurt here .

I am against mean spirited personal attacks though - no place for that stuff. And really - we’re stuck with Franklin for at least another two years IMO.

So, you’re saying Suck it up and drive on? Roger that.

 

[LB99]

Have to hope a school like Arkansas or Florida finds him more attractive than others. We'll see. What's frustrating is the years of people pointing this stuff out (play-calling, soft players, lack of discipline, lack of QB development, game/time management, loyalty to certain players, etc.) only to be shouted down by the usual suspects, who I guess don't post anymore, that we are Franklin haters. I think many were hoping he was the guy but it was obvious years ago he wasn't. Team isn't fun to watch for the most part either unless you are a masochist.

He seems like the perfect fit for VT. They are in rebuild mode and that is what he does well. They have been on the decline since Beamer retired and would probably love the chance to be competitive in the ACC and win 10 games a year. He also recruits VA very well.

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

I agree. We can be frustrated without being low class.

Can we remember you’re a founding member of the Franklin sunshine pumper team. Rap name sunshine Franklin pumper

#wheres the rick yo s apology

 

[LB99]

Kraft isn't listed here - because PSU doesn't supply public information to the data compliers:
Top 10 highest-paid athletic directors in NCAA ft. Danny White

But if he were included, we know he is Top 5 highest paid ADs in the country - just with his "base":
Penn State extends AD Pat Kraft's contract through 2031-32 - ESPN

And when he collects his "bonus" (which everyone knows is a fait accompli), he will end up the HIGHEST paid AD in the country.

What do you think he sees?

The post you replied to had nothing to do with Kraft’s salary.

 

[Nittering Nabob]

So, you’re saying Suck it up and drive on? Roger that.

You need to rinse the sand from your mangina.

 

[LB99]

You need to rinse the sand from your mangina.

That’s more effed up than a football bat.

 

[Nittering Nabob]

I agree. We can be frustrated without being low class.

Can you specify where or when anyone on this board exhibited “low classiness” relative to Franklin’s ineptitude?