First Hype for Cox

BoDawg.sixpack

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That new running back for Auburn rushed for over 2,000 yards in his 2nd JUCO season
 

engie

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Yep...

Secondary is not going to be nearly the weakness that people are expecting. Neither is WR IMO...
 
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Those are still the weaknesses plus the OTs. Cox is a tremendous player don't get me wrong but I still don't trust Nicko the headhunter and the inexperience within the roster in the secondary.
 

engie

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Those are still the weaknesses plus the OTs. Cox is a tremendous player don't get me wrong but I still don't trust Nicko the headhunter and the inexperience within the roster in the secondary.

What is this inexperience that you speak of?

Calhoun has 13 games of experience. Love has 25. They played 1/3 of the overall snaps last year at CB and no one noticed the dropoff(save one trip at UK for Love). Jay Hughes took Broomfield's starting spot prior to the final 4 games of his career. He's played in 26 games now. Whitley has played in something like 35 games -- and the simple fact that Cox is playing CB instead of FS says we've got confidence in him being the guy he was his first 2 years. Jiles and Redmond are uber talented -- and if they offseat these guys with experience that were pretty good while getting that experience, I can't see how that could possibly be a bad thing for us...We've got double the total game experience in our secondary that Ok State has on their OL...

I've been preaching this for months now. The secondary isn't going to be nearly the problem that some have projected... Scheme could easily make it look better than how we wasted talent back there last year...
 

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I would call it the least experienced position group on the team. Would you disagree?
 

engie

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I would call it the least experienced position group on the team. Would you disagree?

I would disagree. WR is the least experienced group. TE is not far behind.

There is hardly any difference in overall experience in our secondary vs our LB corps that everyone is so high on -- at least in terms of total snaps seen in game action... Not really that much experience difference with the DL either...

I think people get hung up on the terminology of starting experience instead of total snaps played, which I feel is probably more important(probably because it's so much more easily measured). We have done a good job of getting backups a bunch of meaningful snaps in games, especially on the defensive side...

We went 57 deep in the Gator Bowl and 56 deep in the Egg Bowl last year(Quay and James were suspended for the Egg -- Griffin was hurt for the Gator) -- which was 2 blowout defeats...

Can be looked at over the course of the entire season on pages 73 and 74 here: http://www.hailstate.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=926902
 

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I would disagree. WR is the least experienced group. TE is not far behind.

There is hardly any difference in overall experience in our secondary vs our LB corps that everyone is so high on -- at least in terms of total snaps seen in game action... Not really that much experience difference with the DL either...

I think people get hung up on the terminology of starting experience instead of total snaps played, which I feel is probably more important(probably because it's so much more easily measured). We have done a good job of getting backups a bunch of meaningful snaps in games, especially on the defensive side...

We went 57 deep in the Gator Bowl and 56 deep in the Egg Bowl last year(Quay and James were suspended for the Egg -- Griffin was hurt for the Gator) -- which was 2 blowout defeats...

Can be looked at over the course of the entire season on pages 73 and 74 here: http://www.hailstate.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=926902

But isn't this your mentality on why OSU's offensive line is so inexperienced?
 

engie

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But isn't this your mentality on why OSU's offensive line is so inexperienced?

Huh?... You must have completely misunderstood my point every time I've posted about that...

Our secondary is MORE experienced than their OL. That's been my point all along. Every talking head questions our secondary -- while giving their OL a total free pass. It doesn't make a bit of sense to me. But a large percentage of our fanbase repeats it as gospel -- thus why I have to say this same thing and defend this same position a million times...

If we are questioning our secondary, they should certainly be questioning their OL. But they aren't...and we are. They are too busy talking national title -- with a horrible defense that they lost alot from. Nevermind the #113 ranked pass defense that lost a starting corner...
 
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121Josey

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Calhoun has 13 games of experience. Love has 25. They played 1/3 of the overall snaps last year at CB and no one noticed the dropoff(save one trip at UK for Love). Jay Hughes took Broomfield's starting spot prior to the final 4 games of his career. He's played in 26 games now. Whitley has played in something like 35 games -- and the simple fact that Cox is playing CB instead of FS says we've got confidence in him being the guy he was his first 2 years. Jiles and Redmond are uber talented

I've been preaching this for months now. The secondary isn't going to be nearly the problem that some have projected... Scheme could easily make it look better than how we wasted talent back there last year...
Thanks for the link to the media guide in the other post. I agree on all posts in this thread. We played a lot of players on defense last year, especially as compared to offense. Two points of note. I didn't realize that Hughes started after the LSU game. That's reassuring about his progression. Also, at times Love did not look good in coverage. But that could be said about the secondary in general in the same situations. There's no reason not to expect better this fall.
 

engie

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Alot of people think Love has the second CB position locked down from a starting standpoint... If that's true, it's pretty impressive -- because everything I've seen and heard about Giles has been good...