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greenbean.sixpack

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Boosting wifi and cell phone signals in and around the stadium.

What are some other easy/quick things we can do to improve GDE for the remainder of this season?
 
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Mjoelner

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Boosting wifi and cell phone signals in and around the stadium.

What are some other easy/quick things we can do to improve GDE for the remainder of this season?
Imo, its too late for football changes this year and I don't go to basketball games so I don't have an opinion so I'll start with baseball.

Baseball:
1. Open all grandstand seating to GA tickets as soon as you walk in the gate. If the seat owner shows up, you move.
2. Get rid of the absolutely useless concession stand in CF that takes up valuable space and double the size of the restrooms out there.
3. Increase locker stocking times.
4. For the love of God drop the Friends in Low Places!

Football 2023:
1. Get rid of the metal detectors.
2. Boost cell signal in the stadium.
3. Pick a post-game traffic pattern and stick to it the whole season and make sure those directing traffic are aware of it.
 
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GloryDawg

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Don't let Auburn's Band bring a PA system and Microphone. They be blasting that **** while we are on offense. Should no way ever be allowed in Davis Wade Stadium. One of you students need to go over and unplug it.
 

The Peeper

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I haven't seen them at an Ole Miss football or basketball game yet.
We don't even have them at baseball and we sometimes have more people at a baseball game than basketball. I guess baseball fans aren't considered violent? When I go into the baseball games I also often have several large knives for cutting various meats we cook in LFL. There's never been a word said about me or many others walking in w/ 12+ inch knives even
 

vhdawg

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boosting wifi and cell signal would be very easy (and relatively inexpensive), right? There are portable versions of both that are used for events and rented by the day.
Lol no, it's neither easy nor inexpensive. In-stadium distributed cell service costs millions of dollars and has to be updated constantly and completely rebuilt about every five years due to changes in technology.
 

Mjoelner

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We don't even have them at baseball and we sometimes have more people at a baseball game than basketball. I guess baseball fans aren't considered violent? When I go into the baseball games I also often have several large knives for cutting various meats we cook in LFL. There's never been a word said about me or many others walking in w/ 12+ inch knives even
I went back and searched and found several stories stating the SEC mandated them for football starting in 2020 but I can tell you for a fact that Ole Miss doesn't have them for football, basketball or baseball.
 

johnson86-1

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Develop and execute a solid plan to make us competitive from an NIL standpoint.
This is the answer. If we don't figure this out, none of the rest will matter. I would suggest the first order of business would be to figure out how much of current giving is necessary to meet current capital requirements. Second order of business would be to figure out whether they could give credit to boosters that gave money to NIL COllectives so the money was available for NIL but people still had to give to get their seats. May not be possible, but we're going ot have to look at some stuff differently than what other schools are.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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Lol no, it's neither easy nor inexpensive. In-stadium distributed cell service costs millions of dollars and has to be updated constantly and completely rebuilt about every five years due to changes in technology.
talking about inexpensive in relation to the money that MSU spends on athletics, not inexpensive to you and me. Portable cell boosters are used all over the country for one time events. We really only need to concentrate on CeaseFire, ATT and Verizon.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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SEC mandate for metal detectors at Football stadiums went into effect for 2020 season.
the ones for entering the Scoreboard Club are either turned off and set to such a low sensitivity as to be ineffective, i wear a riggers belt with a solid chunk of metal, it has never set off the detector.

 

Tsunhater

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This is the answer. If we don't figure this out, none of the rest will matter. I would suggest the first order of business would be to figure out how much of current giving is necessary to meet current capital requirements. Second order of business would be to figure out whether they could give credit to boosters that gave money to NIL COllectives so the money was available for NIL but people still had to give to get their seats. May not be possible, but we're going ot have to look at some stuff differently than what other schools are.
University is getting enough money from TV. Take the seating license fees and allow the seat buyer to pay half that amount to BDC and other half to Bulldog Initiative. Receipt of NIL payment reduces seat fees by that amount. Again not sure if legal but something like this would raise significant money for NIL
 
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Mjoelner

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the ones for entering the Scoreboard Club are either turned off and set to such a low sensitivity as to be ineffective, i wear a riggers belt with a solid chunk of metal, it has never set off the detector.

I think they change settings on them or if battery powered, the batteries are dead. I say that because I know I've seen some (if not maybe all) that do not have power cords running to them. A couple of years ago I wore the exact same jacket and cap to two consecutive games. The first time I walked straight through with no beep while wearing the jacket and cap and only took my cellphone out of my pocket. The very next week I almost had to go through a TSA pat-down. Emptied pockets, took off jacket, cap and watch, cellphone and wallet in the tray and I still beeped every time I walked through.
 

woozman

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boosting wifi and cell signal would be very easy (and relatively inexpensive), right? There are portable versions of both that are used for events and rented by the day.
Maybe for a wedding reception, but not for 50K people

I want all chairbacks by the GA game…**
 
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Seinfeld

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talking about inexpensive in relation to the money that MSU spends on athletics, not inexpensive to you and me. Portable cell boosters are used all over the country for one time events. We really only need to concentrate on CeaseFire, ATT and Verizon.
I’ll also add that it’s not as if we’re complaining about a little lag. UT fans swimming through an ocean of 110k people were live streaming the post-Bama pandemonium on social media and via FaceTime. Meanwhile, I struggle to check ESPN scores in DWS I’d there are more than 35k in the stadium.
 

STATEgrad04

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Our new AD has got to figure out a way to come in and create a new image/identity for us. We are way too forgettable right now, and in the age of NIL that is not a good recipe for getting recruits or donations.
 
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johnson86-1

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University is getting enough money from TV. Take the seating license fees and allow the seat buyer to pay half that amount to BDC and other half to Bulldog Initiative. Receipt of NIL payment reduces seat fees by that amount. Again not sure if legal but something like this would raise significant money for NIL
I'm not sure the TV money is enough unless we cut expenses elsewhere, but the bigger issue is whether we can give credit towards seating fees for money given to a collective. Would need to be creative about it. And ideally would be somewhat low key because once other schools copy it, we're back in the same spot of not being able to compete. Our only hope at that point will be that some programs have taken on so much debt that they can't divert spending from their capital program.
 

The Peeper

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Boosting wifi and cell phone signals in and around the stadium.

What are some other easy/quick things we can do to improve GDE for the remainder of this season?
It seems like every off season all the providers say they are upgrading their infrastructure on campus for the crowds but after hearing that for years and nothing changing I don't even listen anymore. CSpire did bring in a trailer mounted antennae of some type several years ago and parked it in the parking lot by the Hump and left it there while we hosted a womens hoops regional of some type and then left it there during baseball regional. I'm not a CSpire customer so don't know if it did any good or not.
 

vhdawg

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talking about inexpensive in relation to the money that MSU spends on athletics, not inexpensive to you and me. Portable cell boosters are used all over the country for one time events. We really only need to concentrate on CeaseFire, ATT and Verizon.
I work in wireless engineering for one of the companies you mentioned. Stadium distributed antenna systems are incredibly expensive in relation to what those companies spend on just a normal cell site, and the return on investment is not terrific.

There's a reason why rush hour traffic is horrible in Atlanta, LA, and any other major city, it's because you literally cannot build enough lanes to handle the traffic. This is exactly the same situation.
 

ckDOG

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Develop and execute a solid plan to make us competitive from an NIL standpoint.
This. If you ask the candidate what their top 3 priorities would be in their first year, all 3 need to be related to making us competitive in the NIL world. If not, pass.
 

johnson86-1

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I work in wireless engineering for one of the companies you mentioned. Stadium distributed antenna systems are incredibly expensive in relation to what those companies spend on just a normal cell site, and the return on investment is not terrific.

There's a reason why rush hour traffic is horrible in Atlanta, LA, and any other major city, it's because you literally cannot build enough lanes to handle the traffic. This is exactly the same situation.
Also similar in that more supply invites more demand. If you provide more capacity, people will be trying to stream other football games so they can watch during breaks.

Out of curiosity, would it be possible to limit bandwidth so say, texts or phone calls could go through but trying to load things like espn are just shut down without suckikng up capacity?
 

vhdawg

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Also similar in that more supply invites more demand. If you provide more capacity, people will be trying to stream other football games so they can watch during breaks.

Out of curiosity, would it be possible to limit bandwidth so say, texts or phone calls could go through but trying to load things like espn are just shut down without suckikng up capacity?
I'm not super familiar with the options available but I generally think data is data and it's probably difficult to distinguish between types of data without limiting everything. There may also be public safety concerns about limiting types of data, I'm not sure,

Also FWIW, there are two distributed antenna systems within DWS....one is Cspire only and the other is shared between at least AT&T and Verizon, with both companies feeding their own equipment into it. I don't THINK T-Mobile is on it, but I'm not 100% certain without asking.
 

johnson86-1

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I'm not super familiar with the options available but I generally think data is data and it's probably difficult to distinguish between types of data without limiting everything. There may also be public safety concerns about limiting types of data, I'm not sure,

Also FWIW, there are two distributed antenna systems within DWS....one is Cspire only and the other is shared between at least AT&T and Verizon, with both companies feeding their own equipment into it. I don't THINK T-Mobile is on it, but I'm not 100% certain without asking.
I wasn't thinking in terms of restricting types of data, just thinking say "a non-picture text needs this much bandwidth to send". We're going to set limits on any individual user at that amount plus 10%. I assume since networks can throttle users that blow through a data amount that they can just throttle everybody if they want. That would seem to increase safety by making sure as many people as possible can communicate by text.

I am probably misusing a lot of terminology and this may just be nonsense to people that understand how it actually works. Just a curiosity I had.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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I'm not super familiar with the options available but I generally think data is data and it's probably difficult to distinguish between types of data without limiting everything. There may also be public safety concerns about limiting types of data, I'm not sure,

Also FWIW, there are two distributed antenna systems within DWS....one is Cspire only and the other is shared between at least AT&T and Verizon, with both companies feeding their own equipment into it. I don't THINK T-Mobile is on it, but I'm not 100% certain without asking.
At least in the scoreboard club Ceasefire doesn't work worth a poop. We don't have to do both, enhance cell and wifi, but need to do one. I wish we would move on from the, "we're just little ole MSU, we can't do that" mindset. Robust wifi/cell service is done many places with crowds twice our size, football brings in a ton of money, we need to keep our fans as willing to come on game day as possible.

I was talking to a long time season ticket holder yesterday, she told me her 10 year old did not like coming to the games, in part due to several hours of no cell/wifi. Kids these days aren't going to be offline long, so to get them conditioned to come to games, we need to keep them online. Also gambling is becoming more and more popular, so getting online to check scores and place bets will become more and more important.
 

horshack.sixpack

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boosting wifi and cell signal would be very easy (and relatively inexpensive), right? There are portable versions of both that are used for events and rented by the day.
I'm not sure about any recent attempts but years ago our admin screwed up a plan by CSpire to push in stadium cellular to another level. Instead of taking that free to the university offering, my understanding is that the AD wanted a cut of profits, or some kind of payment for allowing CSpire to invest heavily in wireless capacity...